Re: [ClusterLabs] Antw: [EXT] Re: Q: crm shell's "vrify" command

2021-07-22 Thread Xin Liang via Users
Hi Ulrich, This is the PR to improve the output, please review https://github.com/ClusterLabs/crmsh/pull/849 Thanks! xin From: Users on behalf of Ulrich Windl Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2021 4:40 PM To: users@clusterlabs.org Subject: [ClusterLabs] Antw: [EXT]

Re: [ClusterLabs] [EXT] Re: Two node cluster without fencing and no split brain?

2021-07-22 Thread kgaillot
On Thu, 2021-07-22 at 10:48 -0400, john tillman wrote: > There was a lot of discussion on this topic which might have > overshadowed > this question so I will ask it again in case someone missed it. > > It comes from a post (see below) that we were pointed to here by > Andrei: > > Is there

Re: [ClusterLabs] [EXT] Re: Two node cluster without fencing and no split brain?

2021-07-22 Thread john tillman
There was a lot of discussion on this topic which might have overshadowed this question so I will ask it again in case someone missed it. It comes from a post (see below) that we were pointed to here by Andrei: Is there something like the described "ping tiebreaker" in the current world of

Re: [ClusterLabs] Antw: [EXT] Re: Two node cluster without fencing and no split brain?

2021-07-22 Thread Jehan-Guillaume de Rorthais
On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 15:36:03 +0200 "Ulrich Windl" wrote: > >>> Jehan-Guillaume de Rorthais schrieb am 22.07.2021 um > 12:05 in > Nachricht <20210722120537.0d65c2a1@firost>: > > On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 22:02:21 -0400 > > "Frank D. Engel, Jr." wrote: > > > >> In OpenVMS, the kernel is aware of the

[ClusterLabs] Antw: [EXT] Re: Two node cluster without fencing and no split brain?

2021-07-22 Thread Ulrich Windl
>>> Jehan-Guillaume de Rorthais schrieb am 22.07.2021 um 12:05 in Nachricht <20210722120537.0d65c2a1@firost>: > On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 22:02:21 -0400 > "Frank D. Engel, Jr." wrote: > >> In OpenVMS, the kernel is aware of the cluster. As is mentioned in that >> presentation, it actually stops

Re: [ClusterLabs] PAF agents after packages updates - still work?

2021-07-22 Thread Jehan-Guillaume de Rorthais
On Sat, 19 Jun 2021 08:32:02 +0100 lejeczek wrote: > I've just yesterday updated OS packages among which some > were for various PCS components, to versions: > corosynclib-3.1.0-5.el8.x86_64 > pacemaker-schemas-2.1.0-2.el8.noarch > pacemaker-cluster-libs-2.1.0-2.el8.x86_64 >

Re: [ClusterLabs] Antw: [EXT] unexpected fenced node and promotion of the new master PAF ‑ postgres

2021-07-22 Thread Jehan-Guillaume de Rorthais
Hi, On Wed, 14 Jul 2021 07:58:14 +0200 "Ulrich Windl" wrote: [...] > Could it be that a command saturated the network? > Jul 13 00:39:28 ltaoperdbs02 postgres[172262]: [20-1] 2021-07-13 00:39:28.936 > UTC [172262] LOG: duration: 660.329 ms execute : SELECT > xmf.file_id, f.size, fp.full_path

Re: [ClusterLabs] Two node cluster without fencing and no split brain?

2021-07-22 Thread Jehan-Guillaume de Rorthais
On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 13:10:45 +0300 Andrei Borzenkov wrote: > On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 1:05 PM Jehan-Guillaume de Rorthais > wrote: > > To do some rewording in regard with the current topic: if Pacemaker is able > > to stop its resources after a quorum lost, it will not reboot, no "death" > >

Re: [ClusterLabs] Two node cluster without fencing and no split brain?

2021-07-22 Thread Andrei Borzenkov
On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 1:05 PM Jehan-Guillaume de Rorthais wrote: > To do some rewording in regard with the current topic: if Pacemaker is able to > stop its resources after a quorum lost, it will not reboot, no "death" either. > And how exactly is the remaining quorate partition supposed to

Re: [ClusterLabs] Two node cluster without fencing and no split brain?

2021-07-22 Thread Jehan-Guillaume de Rorthais
On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 12:56:40 +0300 Andrei Borzenkov wrote: > On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 12:43 PM Jehan-Guillaume de Rorthais > wrote: > > > > On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 12:45:40 -0400 > > Digimer wrote: > > > > > On 2021-07-21 3:26 a.m., Jehan-Guillaume de Rorthais wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > >

Re: [ClusterLabs] Two node cluster without fencing and no split brain?

2021-07-22 Thread Jehan-Guillaume de Rorthais
On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 22:02:21 -0400 "Frank D. Engel, Jr." wrote: > In OpenVMS, the kernel is aware of the cluster.  As is mentioned in that > presentation, it actually stops processes from running and blocks access > to clustered storage when quorum is lost, and resumes them appropriately >

Re: [ClusterLabs] Two node cluster without fencing and no split brain?

2021-07-22 Thread Andrei Borzenkov
On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 12:43 PM Jehan-Guillaume de Rorthais wrote: > > On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 12:45:40 -0400 > Digimer wrote: > > > On 2021-07-21 3:26 a.m., Jehan-Guillaume de Rorthais wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 04:28:30 + (UTC) > > > Strahil Nikolov via Users wrote: > >

Re: [ClusterLabs] Two node cluster without fencing and no split brain?

2021-07-22 Thread Jehan-Guillaume de Rorthais
On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 12:45:40 -0400 Digimer wrote: > On 2021-07-21 3:26 a.m., Jehan-Guillaume de Rorthais wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 04:28:30 + (UTC) > > Strahil Nikolov via Users wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> consider using a 3rd system as a Q disk. Also, you can use iscsi

Re: [ClusterLabs] Antw: [EXT] Re: Q: crm shell's "vrify" command

2021-07-22 Thread Xin Liang via Users
OK, I read the manual page again, but it's a bit vague about that. I was aware of completions, aliases and shortcuts, but not about spell-corrections. What if there were some additional output like ``INFO: "vrify" accepted as "verify"'' (or "... corrected to ...")? Nice suggestion, thank you! I

[ClusterLabs] Antw: [EXT] Re: Q: crm shell's "vrify" command

2021-07-22 Thread Ulrich Windl
>>> Xin Liang via Users schrieb am 22.07.2021 um 10:22 in Nachricht > Is that a feature (silent spell correction) that I'm unaware of? > Yes, like `crm conf` will be `crm configure`, or `crm confgure` OK, I read the manual page again, but it's a bit vague about that. I was aware of

Re: [ClusterLabs] Q: crm shell's "vrify" command

2021-07-22 Thread Xin Liang via Users
Is that a feature (silent spell correction) that I'm unaware of? Yes, like `crm conf` will be `crm configure`, or `crm confgure` From: Users on behalf of Ulrich Windl Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2021 3:24 PM To: users@clusterlabs.org Subject: [ClusterLabs] Q: crm

[ClusterLabs] Q: crm shell's "vrify" command

2021-07-22 Thread Ulrich Windl
Hi! I was surprised about the "vrify" command in crmsh-4.3.1+20210702.4e0ee8fb-5.59.1.noarch of SLES 15 SP2: I mistyped the command, but surprisingly it was accepted: crm(live/h16)configure# edit prm_xen_rksapv09 crm(live/h16)configure# vrify crm(live/h16)configure# verify