On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 08:04:54PM +0200, Luca Morandini wrote:
You've alreadty read Vadim's presentation and samples [1], right ?
Regards,
[1] http://reverycodes.com/gt/Cocoon%202.2%20Classic.ppt
Thank you. No, I've just now learned of its existence.
OpenOffice doesn't quite render it
: Lowering in amount of users' posts?
Hi,
for me it's also true :
Didn't see any real need to got to 2.2. or beyond ! 2.1 does anything for me,
huge apps with heavy load as well as quick solutions.
To the major problem of cocoon is : It's ready ! No burning needs for new
functionality, no major tasks
To: users@cocoon.apache.org ; Andreas Kuehne
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 9:12 AM
Subject: RE: Lowering in amount of users' posts?
Maybe the learning curve got a bit steeper for Cocoon2.2 but I disagree that
this is inherent to Cocoon itself. Cocoon2.2 still allows you to do use the
sitemap
@cocoon.apache.org; Andreas Kuehne kue...@trustable.de
Sent: Mon, April 19, 2010 10:12:14 AM
Subject: RE: Lowering in amount of users' posts?
Maybe the learning curve got a bit steeper for
Cocoon2.2 but I disagree that this is inherent to Cocoon itself. Cocoon2.2
still allows you to do use
*To:* users@cocoon.apache.org
*Subject:* Re: Lowering in amount of users' posts?
Hi,
for me it's also true :
Didn't see any real need to got to 2.2. or beyond ! 2.1 does anything
for me, huge apps with heavy load as well as quick solutions.
To the major problem of cocoon is : It's ready
-Original Message-
From: Andre Juffer [mailto:andre.juf...@oulu.fi]
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 10:45 AM
To: users@cocoon.apache.org
Subject: Re: Lowering in amount of users' posts?
I pretty much agree with what Robby just wrote. There are certain
differences of course between Cocoon 2.2
On 19/apr/10, at 11:20, Robby Pelssers wrote:
Ok.
I have to agree on the documentation issue. This certainly hasn't
approved and for usage of sitemap components I still tend to use the
Cocoon2.1.x docs.
I do believe as well that Cocoon forms in combination with
flowscript was state of
@cocoon.apache.org
Subject: Re: Lowering in amount of users' posts?
I pretty much agree with what Robby just wrote. There are certain
differences of course between Cocoon 2.2 and earlier versions, which may
be somewhat difficult to grasp. Maven is a standard build tool and it is
well supported
a lot what cocoon has to offer...
Cheers,
Robby
-Original Message-
From: Andre Juffer [mailto:andre.juf...@oulu.fi]
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 10:45 AM
To: users@cocoon.apache.org
Subject: Re: Lowering in amount of users' posts?
I pretty much agree with what Robby just wrote
: Monday, April 19, 2010 11:51 AM
To: users@cocoon.apache.org
Subject: Re: Lowering in amount of users' posts?
Hi all,
Remember :
Putting Based on Maven and Spring on your homepage sounds much better
at the moment than Based on Ant and Avalon
(http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox//cocoon-users
-
From: André Davignon [mailto:andre.davig...@free.fr]
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 11:51 AM
To: users@cocoon.apache.org
Subject: Re: Lowering in amount of users' posts?
Hi all,
Remember :
Putting Based on Maven and Spring on your homepage sounds much better
at the moment than Based on Ant
).
Robby
-Original Message-
From: Andre Juffer [mailto:andre.juf...@oulu.fi]
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 12:37 PM
To: users@cocoon.apache.org
Subject: Re: Lowering in amount of users' posts?
Robby Pelssers wrote:
There is no real need to move ... totally agree. But once you become
Message-
From: Andre Juffer [mailto:andre.juf...@oulu.fi]
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 12:37 PM
To: users@cocoon.apache.org
Subject: Re: Lowering in amount of users' posts?
Robby Pelssers wrote:
There is no real need to move ... totally agree. But once you become familiar with
- agile
PM
*To:* users@cocoon.apache.org
*Subject:* Re: Lowering in amount of users' posts?
Hi,
for me it's also true :
Didn't see any real need to got to 2.2. or beyond ! 2.1 does anything
for me, huge apps with heavy load as well as quick solutions.
To the major problem of cocoon is : It's ready
experience yet).
Robby
-Original Message-
From: Andre Juffer [mailto:andre.juf...@oulu.fi]
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 12:37 PM
To: users@cocoon.apache.org
Subject: Re: Lowering in amount of users' posts?
Robby Pelssers wrote:
There is no real need to move ... totally agree. But once
I too see a widening gap between development and the user base. It
seemed as though, when 2.2 came out, those who knew how it worked had
already lost interest in it and were in hot pursuit of 3.0. 2.1
(where most of the users were, and perhaps still are) was left
twisting slowly in the wind.
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 12:19:28PM +0200, Robby Pelssers wrote:
There is no real need to move ... totally agree. But once you become
familiar with
- agile development
- unit-testing (junit spring-test)
- dependency injection (Spring)
- AOP
- Cocoon-spring-configurator
- reloading
-Original Message-
From: Andreas Kuehne [mailto:akue...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 3:37 PM
To: users@cocoon.apache.org
Subject: Re: Lowering in amount of users' posts?
Hi Robby,
I'm really interested in seeing what the YUI integration is about !
Please keep us informed
On 19/04/10 15:52, Mark H. Wood wrote:
Oh, the *benefits* are easy enough to see. It's the how-to-switch
that's clear as mud.
You've alreadty read Vadim's presentation and samples [1], right ?
Regards,
[1] http://reverycodes.com/gt/Cocoon%202.2%20Classic.ppt
Luca
Ok, thank you everybody for all the replies.
I guess there's more of a community than I'd imagined. I didnt expect
to raise such a stir!
:)
If I may, might I ask one further question, then?
When I was into Cocoon back in the very beginning, I remember that one
of the tutorials, I believe, in the
Considering myself a 'normal' user (not developing cocoon), i lost
track after 2.1.11 . I had the feeling that, when 2.2 came, cocoon
became a framework for cocoon-developers, not cocoon users. Suddenly
you had to learn maven, the documentation became even worse, ... It
was my personal feeling
Hi
i totally agree with Bart. I'm away from Cocoon since 2.1.11. Cocoon 2.2
required from me
a new learning curve. Since then i have moved to other technologies. For
small sized web
applications Cocoon forms are replaced by GWT.
Of course i'm missing CForms and its powerful javascript as
From: Stavros Kounis skou...@gmail.com
To: users@cocoon.apache.org
Sent: Sun, April 18, 2010 1:12:32 PM
Subject: Re: Lowering in amount of users' posts?
Hi
i totally agree with Bart. I'm away from Cocoon since 2.1.11. Cocoon 2.2
required from me
a new learning curve. Since then i
Hi all.
First post here.
I was looking at the amounts of posts to the cocoon users list, and I
see a serious degradation in the amount of posts in recent years.
Can anyone point me to why there seems to be a lack of interest in cocoon?
Just wondering. I can remember when it was the happening
I think many of us have moved on. Cocoon changed into a direction that did
not fit our style of working, and the rest of the world came up with new ideas
and approaches that did. I wrote my take on this here:
http://headspace.posterous.com/end-of-the-road-for-cocoon
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