Re: html templates - best practise

2003-10-06 Thread Andreas Bohnert
wow - so many answers! and so many different approaches, i'll read them all carefully. i think i have to take a timeout - because my knowledge of xslt sucks thank you all andreas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For

RE: html templates - best practise

2003-10-04 Thread Conal Tuohy
] Subject: Re: html templates - best practise Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le Vendredi, 3 oct 2003, à 14:41 Europe/Zurich, Derek Hohls a écrit : ...My feeling is that use of Cocoon must change some aspects of how you work... if you do not want to change, then maybe stick to JSP or other

RE: html templates - best practise

2003-10-04 Thread gounis
- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andreas Hartmann Sent: Saturday, 4 October 2003 00:58 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: html templates - best practise Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le Vendredi, 3 oct 2003, 14:41 Europe/Zurich, Derek Hohls a crit : ...My feeling

Re: html templates - best practise

2003-10-03 Thread alex
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, i read a lot of tutorials and docs about cocoon and i really like it, = but I still don't know, what's the best practise to handle html = templates. I get the static part of my html page from a html designer Is it possible to get the designer to generate xhtml

Re: html templates - best practise

2003-10-03 Thread Derek Hohls
Andreas Not sure I fully understand - and so I may be missing the point completely... but Cocoon, unlike many other web application systems does *not* work on a "template" system ... data is created in XML (from static and/or dynamic sources) and the presentation (HTML page layout) is

Re: html templates - best practise

2003-10-03 Thread gounis
hi addreas we are working on that direction one year ago the idea is: .xhtml template file (with some extra tag that get content from specifics blocks) .xml content file .xml block file (blocks with content) 1. all this files aggregation into one .xml 2. xsl trasformation to put content in

Re: html templates - best practise

2003-10-03 Thread Andreas Bohnert
transformation. But maybe I'm wrong. Do you know more about that? andreas - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 11:30 AM Subject: Re: html templates - best practise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, i read a lot of tutorials and docs

Re: html templates - best practise

2003-10-03 Thread Andreas Bohnert
the xml data source (with the database rows, etc.) and during transformation I would like to reference to the template file and bind the dynamic data. andreas - Original Message - From: Derek Hohls To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 11:30 AM Subject: Re:

Re: html templates - best practise

2003-10-03 Thread Andreas Bohnert
Hi stavros, this sounds very good, i'm curious to see it!! thanks andreas - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 11:39 AM Subject: Re: html templates - best practise hi addreas we are working on that direction one year

Re: html templates - best practise

2003-10-03 Thread Andreas Bohnert
mechanism it is very good to hear that something like this is on the way! regards andreas - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 12:12 PM Subject: Re: html templates - best practise On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Andreas Bohnert wrote: Hi

Re: html templates - best practise

2003-10-03 Thread gounis
templates - best practise On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Andreas Bohnert wrote: Hi Alex, i haven't think about xhtml. I will have a look at it! We don't have an agreement, how to specify the dynamic parts. I'm used to tapestry, which is perfect to work with html templates, but we need

Re: html templates - best practise

2003-10-03 Thread Andreas Hartmann
Andreas Bohnert wrote: Hi, i read a lot of tutorials and docs about cocoon and i really like it, but I still don't know, what's the best practise to handle html templates. [...] Maybe these pages could be interesting for you: http://www.cocooncenter.org/articles/stylefree.html

Re: html templates - best practise

2003-10-03 Thread Andreas Bohnert
absolutely, also your site is a great resource - thanks! regards andreas - Original Message - From: Andreas Hartmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 1:41 PM Subject: Re: html templates - best practise Andreas Bohnert wrote: Hi, i read

Re: html templates - best practise

2003-10-03 Thread Derek Hohls
Message - From: Derek Hohls To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 1:11 PM Subject: Re: html templates - best practise Andrea I agree that the generator will produce the xml data source (with the database rows, etc.) - a sample may look like

Re: html templates - best practise

2003-10-03 Thread Derek Hohls
Message - From: Derek Hohls To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 1:11 PM Subject: Re: html templates - best practise Andrea I agree that the generator will produce the xml data source (with the database rows, etc.) - a sample may look like

Re: html templates - best practise

2003-10-03 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Vendredi, 3 oct 2003, à 14:41 Europe/Zurich, Derek Hohls a écrit : ...My feeling is that use of Cocoon must change some aspects of how you work... if you do not want to change, then maybe stick to JSP or other template-type systems?... I didn't follow the beginning of this discussion, but

Re: html templates - best practise

2003-10-03 Thread Derek Hohls
This is all true; but a stylesheet is still a stylesheet, and it seems that the original poster wanted to be able to use something very close to template-type HTML so that the page desigers would not have to do anything related to XML and XSL... maybe XHTML and include statements are the way

Re: html templates - best practise

2003-10-03 Thread Andreas Hartmann
Derek Hohls wrote: This is all true; but a stylesheet is still a stylesheet, and it seems that the original poster wanted to be able to use something very close to template-type HTML so that the page desigers would not have to do anything related to XML and XSL... maybe XHTML and include

RE: html templates - best practise

2003-10-03 Thread Ralph Goers
I believe I am doing exactly what you are asking. We use an html skeleton that contains span tags wherever dynamic content is to go. We have a pipeline that aggregates the html (converted to XHTML by the HTMLGenerator) along with the XML form of our Data Transfer Objects as created by

Re: html templates - best practise

2003-10-03 Thread Joerg Heinicke
.) and during transformation I would like to reference to the template file and bind the dynamic data. andreas - Original Message - From: Derek Hohls To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 11:30 AM Subject: Re: html templates - best practise Andreas Not sure I

Re: html templates - best practise

2003-10-03 Thread Alexander Schatten
I developed a way of callback templates. Look at this: (0) consider a HTML design like this: ++ | Page Title (each page different) | ++ | Main Navigation (for all pages the same|

RE: html templates - best practise

2003-10-03 Thread Horsfield, Peter A.
-Original Message- From: Alexander Schatten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 12:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: html templates - best practise I developed a way of callback templates. Look at this: (0) consider a HTML design like