Gnome3: don't have anymore the language selection box and the keyboard selection box in gdm

2011-08-29 Thread Eric Doutreleau
Hi I have just installed fedora15 and therefore move to gnome3. we have several hundreds of pc in lab environnement where 4000+ users can log in. There s a lot of different nationalities among these users and i have dozens of languages installed. In fedora 13 people could select ( after typing

Thunderbird 6 F15

2011-08-29 Thread Frank Murphy
Using gmail IMAP, new mail is coming in as read. How can I revert\reset this. Only started this morning after boot-up. In preferences it is set to mark read after 1 second display. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list

Re: Fedora-15-x86_64-netinst on Dell XPS-15z (To Michael Dinon) (again)

2011-08-29 Thread Paulo
From: Michael Dinon mdi...@gmail.com To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 12:16:39 -0700 Subject: Re: Fedora-15-x86_64-netinst on Dell XPS-15z (To Michael Dinon) On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 4:07 AM, Paulo paulopaul...@gmail.com wrote:

GNOME 2 on Fedora 15

2011-08-29 Thread Dave Cross
I've tried GNOME 3 for a couple of months and I really don't like it[1]. Is there any way to go back to GNOME 2 on Fedora 15? Can I reuse the F14 rpms? Or can I rebuild the F14 srpms on my F15 system? Or perhaps someone else has already done this work and made GNOME 2 available for F15? Cheers,

Re: GNOME 2 on Fedora 15

2011-08-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 08/29/2011 03:08 PM, Dave Cross wrote: I've tried GNOME 3 for a couple of months and I really don't like it[1]. Is there any way to go back to GNOME 2 on Fedora 15? Can I reuse the F14 rpms? Or can I rebuild the F14 srpms on my F15 system? Or perhaps someone else has already done this

Re: GNOME 2 on Fedora 15

2011-08-29 Thread Erik P. Olsen
On 29/08/11 11:38, Dave Cross wrote: I've tried GNOME 3 for a couple of months and I really don't like it[1]. Is there any way to go back to GNOME 2 on Fedora 15? Can I reuse the F14 rpms? Or can I rebuild the F14 srpms on my F15 system? Or perhaps someone else has already done this work and

Re: GNOME 2 on Fedora 15

2011-08-29 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
Erik P. Olsen wrote: On 29/08/11 11:38, Dave Cross wrote: I've tried GNOME 3 for a couple of months and I really don't like it[1]. Is there any way to go back to GNOME 2 on Fedora 15? Can I reuse the F14 rpms? Or can I rebuild the F14 srpms on my F15 system? Or perhaps someone else has

RHEL6 Wallpapers

2011-08-29 Thread Lázaro Morales
Hello, I like so much RHEL6 artwork, Is there any place where I can download the RHEL6 default wallpapers? Thanks in advance, Lázaro. Este mensaje de correo electrónico ha sido procesado por el servidor de Frioclima -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or

mount ntfs, then nfs export it - empty folder shown on client

2011-08-29 Thread David Timms
Hi, I have: Server: - ip=192.168.16.111 - ext4 partitions - ntfs partition /dev/sda1 /etc/fstab mounts the ntfs partition at: /home/c-drive/ I can read/write that folder and it's directories from root and my user account (locally). I setup nfs export of /home/ to 192.168.16.104 Client: -

Re: GNOME 2 on Fedora 15

2011-08-29 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 10:38:16 +0100, Dave Cross dav...@gmail.com wrote: I've tried GNOME 3 for a couple of months and I really don't like it[1]. Is there any way to go back to GNOME 2 on Fedora 15? Can I reuse the F14 rpms? Or can I rebuild the F14 srpms on my F15 system? Or perhaps

Re: GNOME 2 on Fedora 15

2011-08-29 Thread Darryl L. Pierce
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 11:46:35AM +0200, Erik P. Olsen wrote: On 29/08/11 11:38, Dave Cross wrote: I've tried GNOME 3 for a couple of months and I really don't like it[1]. Is there any way to go back to GNOME 2 on Fedora 15? Can I reuse the F14 rpms? Or can I rebuild the F14 srpms on my

Re: GNOME 2 on Fedora 15

2011-08-29 Thread Tim Evans
On 08/29/2011 09:36 AM, Darryl L. Pierce wrote: On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 11:46:35AM +0200, Erik P. Olsen wrote: On 29/08/11 11:38, Dave Cross wrote: I've tried GNOME 3 for a couple of months and I really don't like it[1]. Is there any way to go back to GNOME 2 on Fedora 15? Can I reuse the

Re: Port Question

2011-08-29 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 3:07 AM, Mike Dwiggins m...@azdwiggins.com wrote: On 8/27/2011 11:59 PM, Tom H wrote: If I find the thread, I'll post a link; you might find it handy. You'll just have to replace the dpkg ... statements with their rpm ... equivalents. Actually I could just try it in

Re: mount ntfs, then nfs export it - empty folder shown on client

2011-08-29 Thread Sam Sharpe
On 29 August 2011 14:22, David Timms dti...@iinet.net.au wrote: I setup nfs export of /home/ to 192.168.16.104 Client: - ip=192.168.16.104 - mount -t nfs4 192.168.16.111:/ /home/dtnotebook/ - ls -l /home/dtnotebook shows the folders including c-drive that are present on the server - ls

Re: Kernel bug ?

2011-08-29 Thread Mike Chambers
On Sun, 2011-08-28 at 13:23 -0600, linux guy wrote: I get the following when I boot F15 on my Dell Duo. kernel BUG at drivers/media/media-entity.c 346! invalid opcode: [#1] SMP Modules linked in: snd_hda_codec_conexant uvcvideo(+) microcode(+) snd_hda_intel(+) It goes on from

Re: slim (simple login manager)

2011-08-29 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/28/2011 09:23 AM, Roberto Ragusa wrote: On 08/28/2011 03:21 AM, cromworshipper-fedorast...@yahoo.com wrote: slim started up fine when this machine was running Fedora 14. I installed it from for Fedora 15: slim-1.3.2-8.fc15.x86_64 It

Good distributed compilation system?

2011-08-29 Thread Christopher Svanefalk
Hey all, could anyone recommend a distributed compilation system that runs both on *nix and Windows machines? I mostly do the actual coding under Linux, but have network access to a very powerful box running Windows 7 (I am not allowed to change the OS) which I would like to compile on. Best,

Re: Port Question

2011-08-29 Thread Reindl Harald
man netstat netstat --numeric-hosts --numeric --notrim --programs -u -t -l Am 27.08.2011 12:42, schrieb Mike Dwiggins: Does there exist a command or command string that will examine a Port and report what application is locking that port? I am beating my head against an install for of all

Re: Kernel bug ?

2011-08-29 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 28.08.2011 21:23, schrieb linux guy: Its also not displaying the grub kernel selection screen. It just boots. this is the stupid default timeout=0 in grub.conf hit cursor down multiple times from boot start and you should get it notice at developers: please stop hiding everything from

Re: How does one run yum on a non working system ?

2011-08-29 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 28.08.2011 21:04, schrieb linux guy: Is there a way to run yum to update the files on a non working system when booting from a live or rescue iso? generally: read what the system says to you in rescure-mode it says ype chroot /mnt/sysimage to chroot your session to the installed system

Re: /etc/init/ directory - why is still supported?

2011-08-29 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 29.08.2011 00:59, schrieb Frantisek Hanzlik: This dir was IMO for upstart config files, and now with F15/systemd its existence is pointless, i'm right? From old times i was wonted to control services with /etc/init.d/SERVICE command rather then service SERVICE command - first variant

Re: Good distributed compilation system?

2011-08-29 Thread Joachim Backes
On 08/29/2011 04:52 PM, Christopher Svanefalk wrote: Hey all, could anyone recommend a distributed compilation system that runs both on *nix and Windows machines? I mostly do the actual coding under Linux, but have network access to a very powerful box running Windows 7 (I am not allowed to

Re: Port Question

2011-08-29 Thread j.e.aneiros
On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 7:46 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.netwrote: man netstat netstat --numeric-hosts --numeric --notrim --programs -u -t -l With --numeric (-n) the switch --numeric-hosts is a waste of typing :) --janeiros Am 27.08.2011 12:42, schrieb Mike Dwiggins: Does

Re: Good distributed compilation system?

2011-08-29 Thread Lázaro Morales
On 08/29/2011 10:52 AM, Christopher Svanefalk wrote: could anyone recommend a distributed compilation system that runs both on *nix and Windows machines? If you are programming in C/C++ or bash scripts, you can try CYGWIN http://www.cygwin.com/ and install bash and gcc through his repository.

Re: /etc/init/ directory - why is still supported?

2011-08-29 Thread Michael Ekstrand
On 08/28/2011 06:09 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 29.08.2011 00:59, schrieb Frantisek Hanzlik: This dir was IMO for upstart config files, and now with F15/systemd its existence is pointless, i'm right? From old times i was wonted to control services with /etc/init.d/SERVICE command rather

pstotext ???

2011-08-29 Thread james tate
Fedora 15 I downloaded and installed pstotext-1.9-2mamba.i586 and get a Error message; GPL Ghostscript 9.02: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: GNOME 2 on Fedora 15

2011-08-29 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 15:15 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Note that GNOME 2.x won't get any security updates which might be something you need to keep in mind. This is part of the reason that Fedora along with other distros will have to move to follow GNOME 3.x releases. One wonders how this

Re: pstotext ???

2011-08-29 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 29.08.2011 17:45, schrieb james tate: Fedora 15 I downloaded and installed pstotext-1.9-2mamba.i586 and get a Error message; GPL Ghostscript 9.02: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1 this is not a fedora-package poppler-utils contains pdftotext and ps2pdf is in the

Re: GNOME 2 on Fedora 15

2011-08-29 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 29.08.2011, Dave Cross wrote: I've tried GNOME 3 for a couple of months and I really don't like it[1]. Seems nobody likes it (me included). Frankly, Gnome3 is broken by design and a f*cking piece of cr*p :-) All the students at my college who use(d) Linux/Gnome2 before have switched, and

Re: Brain fart: no format option on a pen drive pop-up menu?

2011-08-29 Thread les
On Sun, 2011-08-28 at 23:10 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 14:30, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: *Those* people are not the ones to pay attention to when trying to understand the computer. You are one of those people. Oh yes, I'm a complete fool. And

Re: pstotext ???

2011-08-29 Thread james tate
On 08/29/2011 12:04 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 29.08.2011 17:45, schrieb james tate: Fedora 15 I downloaded and installed pstotext-1.9-2mamba.i586 and get a Error message; GPL Ghostscript 9.02: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1 this is not a fedora-package poppler-utils contains pdftotext

Re: GNOME 2 on Fedora 15

2011-08-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 08/29/2011 09:32 PM, Tim wrote: On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 15:15 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Note that GNOME 2.x won't get any security updates which might be something you need to keep in mind. This is part of the reason that Fedora along with other distros will have to move to follow GNOME

Re: GNOME 2 on Fedora 15

2011-08-29 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/29/2011 03:36 AM, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: Personally I'm now using XFCE. As am I. I wonder how many people are walking away from Gnome because they don't want to use a UI designed for a tablet on their desktop or laptop? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: RHEL6 Wallpapers

2011-08-29 Thread g
On 08/29/2011 11:06 AM, Lázaro Morales wrote: Hello, I like so much RHEL6 artwork, Is there any place where I can download the RHEL6 default wallpapers? i am using fedora and scientific linux. being that scientific linux is a rhel clone, have a look at these links;

Re: Brain fart: no format option on a pen drive pop-up menu?

2011-08-29 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/29/2011 09:26 AM, les wrote: Enter solid state media. The new flash products rely on physics for storage. The data is permanently installed into what you could consider electrically isolated canisters. Isn't magnetism part of physics any more? -- users mailing list

Re: GNOME 2 on Fedora 15

2011-08-29 Thread Alan Cox
On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 09:46:46 -0700 Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us wrote: On 08/29/2011 03:36 AM, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: Personally I'm now using XFCE. As am I. I wonder how many people are walking away from Gnome because they don't want to use a UI designed for a tablet on their desktop or

Re: Kernel bug ?

2011-08-29 Thread linux guy
You were right about timeout = 0 in grub.conf. I changed it to 15 and I can now select a kernel again. The kernel bug error message is appearing when I run kernel 2.6.40.3-o.fc15. The Duo runs nicely with kernel 2.6.38.6-26.rc1.fc15 Its so nice to have the Duo booting again ! -- users

Re: GNOME 2 on Fedora 15

2011-08-29 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/29/2011 06:38 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 08/29/2011 09:32 PM, Tim wrote: On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 15:15 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Note that GNOME 2.x won't get any security updates which might be something you need to keep in mind. This is part of the reason that Fedora along with

Re: RHEL6 Wallpapers

2011-08-29 Thread Sam Sharpe
On 29 August 2011 17:47, g gel...@bellsouth.net wrote: On 08/29/2011 11:06 AM, Lázaro Morales wrote: Hello, I like so much RHEL6 artwork, Is there any place where I can download the RHEL6 default wallpapers? i am using fedora and scientific linux. being that scientific linux is a rhel

Re: GNOME 2 on Fedora 15

2011-08-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 08/29/2011 10:29 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: It's opensource - Everybody has the liberty to take these $$$-OSes source packages and to adopt them for ones needs, rsp. to submit these packages back into Fedora. In theory, yes. In practise, not many people are typically interested in doing

setting date and time format using gnome desktop

2011-08-29 Thread g
greetings, when using gnome desktop, how are date and time format set?. tia. -- peace out. tc.hago, g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today. ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it. to mess up an

Re: Port Question

2011-08-29 Thread j.e.aneiros
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 3:07 AM, Mike Dwiggins m...@azdwiggins.com wrote: On 8/27/2011 11:59 PM, Tom H wrote: If I find the thread, I'll post a link; you might find it handy. You'll just have to replace the dpkg ...

Re: RHEL6 Wallpapers

2011-08-29 Thread Lázaro Morales
On 08/29/2011 01:03 PM, Sam Sharpe wrote: If you want the Red Hat desktop background, then you need to get it from Red Hat - it can be found in the redhat-logos SRPM package on their website. I would link you to it, but I don't feel comfortable redistributing their branded items either.

lectures recording software (like Panopto)

2011-08-29 Thread Ranjan Maitra
Hi, I am asked to record my lectures using a tool called Panopto which works on Windoze and has really been a frustrating experience. I would like to know whether I have any options that would work on Linux. I run the Fedora 15 distribution, and all I would like to happen is that the screen

Re: RHEL6 Wallpapers

2011-08-29 Thread g
On 08/29/2011 05:03 PM, Sam Sharpe wrote: No they shouldn't. what i meant by should be same, is what is in the sl i386 and x86_64 packages. graphics are graphics and see no reason why they would differ due to cpu. In fact they should specifically differ, because the requirements from Red

Re: Brain fart: no format option on a pen drive pop-up menu?

2011-08-29 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us said: On 08/29/2011 09:26 AM, les wrote: Enter solid state media. The new flash products rely on physics for storage. The data is permanently installed into what you could consider electrically isolated canisters. Isn't magnetism part of physics

Re: GNOME 2 on Fedora 15

2011-08-29 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 11:02:14 -0500 Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 15:15 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Note that GNOME 2.x won't get any security updates which might be something you need to keep in mind. This is part of the reason that Fedora along with

Re: GNOME 2 on Fedora 15

2011-08-29 Thread Chris Kloiber
On 08/29/2011 12:38 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 08/29/2011 09:32 PM, Tim wrote: On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 15:15 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Note that GNOME 2.x won't get any security updates which might be something you need to keep in mind. This is part of the reason that Fedora along with

Re: GNOME 2 on Fedora 15

2011-08-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 08/29/2011 11:53 PM, Chris Kloiber wrote: There is nothing to backport, as those changes are taken from upstream, which no longer exists. That depends. Nautilus exists. Metacity bug fixes probably are common to Mutter and sometimes patches will have to be written from scratch as well

Re: GNOME 2 on Fedora 15

2011-08-29 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 29.08.2011 20:23, schrieb Chris Kloiber: On 08/29/2011 12:38 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 08/29/2011 09:32 PM, Tim wrote: On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 15:15 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Note that GNOME 2.x won't get any security updates which might be something you need to keep in mind. This

Re: Brain fart: no format option on a pen drive pop-up menu?

2011-08-29 Thread Rich Mahn
I think this has more or less been said, but I'll say it this way. Regarding the use of the term format. The MSDOG format program actually did (and may still -- i'm not sure) do a low-level format (which is laying down tracks on a disk) on floppy diskettes. Earlier microcomputer operating

Update on needs-restarting

2011-08-29 Thread Joe Zeff
As some of you may remember, I opened a bug report for the needs-restarting script on August 25. If any of you out there are having difficulties with it, go to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=733537 and download the *second* version of it, from comment #12. It works for me, and

[389-users] force MAC LDAP client to comply Linux LDAP server's password policy

2011-08-29 Thread Shouben Zhou
Does anybody how to configure MAC OS LDAP client to comply the password policy (expiration time) against Linux LDAP server? -- -- Shouben Zhou Science Systems and Applications Inc.(SSAI) 1 Enterprise Pkwy, Hampton, VA 23666 Tel: (757)951-1905 Fax: (757)951-1900 Email: shouben.z...@nasa.gov --

Re: setting date and time format using gnome desktop

2011-08-29 Thread Hiisi
On 29 August 2011 17:37, g gel...@bellsouth.net wrote: greetings, when using gnome desktop, how are date and time format set?. I'm far from my F15 installation now but if I remember correctly it's done from settings bundle. tia. -- peace out. tc.hago, g . --SNIP-- -- Hiisi.

How to debug X lockup (advice from gurus wanted)

2011-08-29 Thread Roberto Ragusa
Hi, it sometimes happens to me that X completely locks up, while the machine is still alive on the network. This is on F14, untainted kernel, nouveau driver, no 3D used, KDE desktop on a 32-bit machine with 8GiB RAM and PAE kernel. It typically happens when something is going to be drawn on the

Re: GNOME 2 on Fedora 15

2011-08-29 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 13:28:25 -0500 Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 29.08.2011 20:23, schrieb Chris Kloiber: On 08/29/2011 12:38 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 08/29/2011 09:32 PM, Tim wrote: On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 15:15 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Note that GNOME 2.x

Re: setting date and time format using gnome desktop

2011-08-29 Thread g
On 08/29/2011 07:05 PM, Hiisi wrote: On 29 August 2011 17:37, g gel...@bellsouth.net wrote: greetings, when using gnome desktop, how are date and time format set?. I'm far from my F15 installation now but if I remember correctly it's done from settings bundle. settings bundle? could you

Re: setting date and time format using gnome desktop

2011-08-29 Thread g
On 08/29/2011 07:05 PM, Hiisi wrote: On 29 August 2011 17:37, g gel...@bellsouth.net wrote: greetings, when using gnome desktop, how are date and time format set?. I'm far from my F15 installation now but if I remember correctly it's done from settings bundle. i am new to gnome.

Re: setting date and time format using gnome desktop

2011-08-29 Thread Hiisi
On 29 August 2011 19:16, g gel...@bellsouth.net wrote: --SNIP-- i am new to gnome. settings bundle? could you elaborate? thank you. Let me gnome.org that for you: http://www.gnome.org/gnome-3/ Last paragraph is titled 'Easy system settings'. All you have to do is fire up 'System Settings'

Re: GNOME 2 on Fedora 15

2011-08-29 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 10:02, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: In the short run you can use fallback mode, which has a very similar feel to gnome 2. In the long run, no one has started a gnome 2 fork Oh really? ;-) A Fork Of GNOME 2: The Mate Desktop Posted by Michael Larabel on August

Re: Brain fart: no format option on a pen drive pop-up menu?

2011-08-29 Thread Robert Marcano
On 08/26/2011 01:46 PM, Bryce Hardy wrote: On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Fernando Cassiafcas...@gmail.com wrote: For the record, is there a Format option available in the current F15, when you right-click on a removable storage device? Just curious... No, for one thing there are no

Programs that should load on boot should be easier to do...

2011-08-29 Thread Linda McLeod
When I photo edit, I would like the two files to come up, along with Gimp.. When the two files come up, they don't come up as I had them on the desktop.. Gimp doesn't come up at all.. I'm told that I must somehow reconfigure Gimp to come-up on boot.. I tried twice to reconfigure Gimp to

Re: GNOME 2 on Fedora 15

2011-08-29 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 16:12, Ranjan Maitra mai...@iastate.edu wrote: Perhaps XFCE? I use LXDE, but I don't know if it could be considered to have functionality. I've pulled my hair trying to tweak LXDE. I've found XFCE is much better, with similiar low memory requirements but without the

I think we need a discussion

2011-08-29 Thread David L. Gehrt
These are a few thoughts that have been fermenting in my mind, but I view this email as only a possible set of discussion topics. Anyway, I feel better having said this. I am a long time user of UNIX/Linux distributions: Slackware, RedHat, Fedora, Suse and Ubuntu. I am of the

Re: GNOME 2 on Fedora 15

2011-08-29 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/29/2011 12:58 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: Power and memory requirements of KDE, Gnome, XFCE and LXDE compared http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=linux_desktop_vitalsnum=1 This is with Gnome 2.29.1 and XFCE 4.6. I'd like to see Gnome 3 and XFCE 4.8 compared this way. --

Re: setting date and time format using gnome desktop

2011-08-29 Thread g
On 08/29/2011 07:23 PM, Hiisi wrote: Let me gnome.org that for you: http://www.gnome.org/gnome-3/ Last paragraph is titled 'Easy system settings'. All you have to do is fire up 'System Settings' from Applications menu. The date and time settings are there. thank you. that helps very much.

Re: setting date and time format using gnome desktop

2011-08-29 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 19:23 +, Hiisi wrote: On 29 August 2011 19:16, g gel...@bellsouth.net wrote: --SNIP-- i am new to gnome. settings bundle? could you elaborate? thank you. Let me gnome.org that for you: http://www.gnome.org/gnome-3/ Last paragraph is titled 'Easy

Re: Update on needs-restarting

2011-08-29 Thread John Pilkington
On 29/08/11 19:46, Joe Zeff wrote: As some of you may remember, I opened a bug report for the needs-restarting script on August 25. If any of you out there are having difficulties with it, go to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=733537 and download the *second* version of it, from

Re: Kernel bug ?

2011-08-29 Thread David L. Gehrt
snip this is the stupid default timeout=0 in grub.conf hit cursor down multiple times from boot start and you should get it notice at developers: please stop hiding everything from the users by default this is not why most people using linux! Hear, hear! dlg -- users mailing list

Re: GNOME 2 on Fedora 15

2011-08-29 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 16:50:01 -0300, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote: A Fork Of GNOME 2: The Mate Desktop I usually read Phoronix, but I missed that article. That provides an opportunity for someone to package it for Fedora. There still could be issues with doing so, but at least

Re: Update on needs-restarting

2011-08-29 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/29/2011 01:24 PM, John Pilkington wrote: The old version gave no output. The comment #12 version listed 7 kde-related processes after a download that I didn't time but certainly lasted several tens of seconds. Maybe the extra download wouldn't have been needed if I had used yum instead

Re: I think we need a discussion

2011-08-29 Thread Robert Myers
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 4:08 PM, David L. Gehrt d...@inanity.net wrote: These are a  few thoughts that have  been fermenting in my mind,  but I view this  email as  only a  possible set  of discussion  topics.  Anyway, I feel better having said this. I  am a  long  time  user of  UNIX/Linux  

Re: RHEL6 Wallpapers

2011-08-29 Thread Sam Sharpe
On 29 August 2011 19:14, g gel...@bellsouth.net wrote: On 08/29/2011 05:03 PM, Sam Sharpe wrote: that several packages have changed: http://www.scientificlinux.org/distributions/6x/rnotes/sl-release- \ notes-6.0.html#changed i am also familiar with that page and i can only say that we

Re: I think we need a discussion

2011-08-29 Thread Sam Sharpe
On 29 August 2011 21:08, David L. Gehrt d...@inanity.net wrote: For me it is  not just that the Gnome2 environment is  being replaced with a new version,  it is that this  new version, Gnome3,  was seemingly developed without much consideration of how the former version, Gnome2, was being used

Re: Brain fart: no format option on a pen drive pop-up menu?

2011-08-29 Thread Alan Cox
This is just plain wrong. For modern hard drives (manufactured after 1994), it is sufficient to overwrite the disk once, with any pattern you desire. I'm not talking about floppy diskettes or core memory here, I'm No it is not, because of things like block sparing. talking about hard

Re: RHEL6 Wallpapers

2011-08-29 Thread g
On 08/29/2011 08:46 PM, Sam Sharpe wrote: On 29 August 2011 19:14, g gel...@bellsouth.net wrote: On 08/29/2011 05:03 PM, Sam Sharpe wrote: that several packages have changed: http://www.scientificlinux.org/distributions/6x/rnotes/sl-release- \ notes-6.0.html#changed i am also familiar with

Re: setting date and time format using gnome desktop

2011-08-29 Thread g
On 08/29/2011 08:24 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: In both F14 ans F15 you run the date time program, Under System- Administration on F14 date time program? to clarify, do you mean date time formating and setting program? -- peace out. tc.hago, g . in a free world without fences,

Re: Brain fart: no format option on a pen drive pop-up menu?

2011-08-29 Thread Bryce Hardy
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Robert Marcano rob...@marcanoonline.com wrote: For the record, is there a Format option available in the current F15, when you right-click on a removable storage device? Just curious... No, for one thing there are no desktop icons in Gnome 3, and

Re: I think we need a discussion

2011-08-29 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 17:43, Robert Myers rbmyers...@gmail.com wrote: There is absolutely nothing new in any of your complaints.  Hardware and software developers have been arbitrarily imposing inexplicable and often incomprehensible changes on users for as long as I have been using

Re: I think we need a discussion

2011-08-29 Thread Peter G.
David L. Gehrt wrote: I am a long time user of... RedHat, Fedora me2 I am of the opinion that Linux may be at or close to a crossroad moving from a computing genre in which the users and developers make cooperative decisions on alternative development paths to one in

Re: I think we need a discussion

2011-08-29 Thread Peter G.
Fernando Cassia wrote: Google is the best example... they change features, move user interface elements around without any questions to the users, and remove features just because they can. And what is most frustrating is that there is no way to talk to them. Any effort at assistance or

Re: Brain fart: no format option on a pen drive pop-up menu?

2011-08-29 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk said: If you want to erase your drive, issue a secure erase command. It's as simple as that. Is there a simple way to do that on Linux? -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't

Re: GNOME 2 on Fedora 15

2011-08-29 Thread Steve Underwood
On 08/30/2011 12:46 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 08/29/2011 03:36 AM, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: Personally I'm now using XFCE. As am I. I wonder how many people are walking away from Gnome because they don't want to use a UI designed for a tablet on their desktop or laptop? What makes you say its

Re: GNOME 2 on Fedora 15

2011-08-29 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/29/2011 05:08 PM, Steve Underwood wrote: What makes you say its designed for tablets? Its design seems far less suitable for a tablet than a desktop. The basic layout, the loss of the second panel and the dependence on gestures all sounds like something designed for a tablet, or at

Re: Brain fart: no format option on a pen drive pop-up menu?

2011-08-29 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 21:05, Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net wrote: Is there a simple way to do that on Linux? On Windows theres a GUI tool that´s open source... http://eraser.sourceforge.net it includes several data-erasing standards to choose from. For Linux there´s wipe but it shows it

Re: Brain fart: no format option on a pen drive pop-up menu?

2011-08-29 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 21:05, Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net wrote: Is there a simple way to do that on Linux? this one is a boot diskette... who owns diskettes, still? http://www.linux-kurser.dk/secure_harddisk_eraser.html FC -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: Port Question

2011-08-29 Thread Mike Dwiggins
On 8/29/2011 7:12 AM, Tom H wrote: On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 3:07 AM, Mike Dwigginsm...@azdwiggins.com wrote: On 8/27/2011 11:59 PM, Tom H wrote: If I find the thread, I'll post a link; you might find it handy. You'll just have to replace the dpkg ... statements with their rpm ... equivalents.

Re: pstotext ???

2011-08-29 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 29Aug2011 12:38, james tate binary...@comcast.net wrote: | On 08/29/2011 12:04 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: | Am 29.08.2011 17:45, schrieb james tate: | Fedora 15 | | I downloaded and installed pstotext-1.9-2mamba.i586 and get a Error | message; | | GPL Ghostscript 9.02: Unrecoverable error,

Re: I think we need a discussion

2011-08-29 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 20:34, Peter G. pguec...@gmail.com wrote: the most evolved being xfde and lxde. XFDE is a nice lightweight desktop environment. LXDE on the contrary is user-hostile when you attempt to customize it. I've recently tried changing from XFDE to LXDE due to alleged lower

Re: I think we need a discussion

2011-08-29 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/29/2011 10:13 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: XFDE is a nice lightweight desktop environment. I'm not sure I've ever heard of it. Are you sure you don't mean XFCE? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: RHEL6 Wallpapers

2011-08-29 Thread Sam Sharpe
On 29 August 2011 22:49, g gel...@bellsouth.net wrote: On 08/29/2011 08:46 PM, Sam Sharpe wrote: On 29 August 2011 19:14, g gel...@bellsouth.net wrote: On 08/29/2011 05:03 PM, Sam Sharpe wrote: that several packages have changed:

Re: I think we need a discussion

2011-08-29 Thread Sam Sharpe
On 30 August 2011 06:34, Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us wrote: On 08/29/2011 10:13 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: XFDE is a nice lightweight desktop environment. I'm not sure I've ever heard of it.  Are you sure you don't mean XFCE? I thought we were talking about XPDE: http://kylixapps.narod.ru/ -- Sam

Re: I think we need a discussion

2011-08-29 Thread Fernando Cassia
XFCE :)) sorry for the typo... On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 02:34, Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us wrote: On 08/29/2011 10:13 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: XFDE is a nice lightweight desktop environment. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: