Re: Policy regarding opt-out telemetry and privacy

2020-11-03 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/3/20 5:39 PM, home user wrote: * I strongly prefer auto-updating (including checking for updates) to be off by default, thus opt-in, in*everything*. And I strongly object to automatic reboots, especially when you have it insists on rebooting into a special updating session, then

Re: Policy regarding opt-out telemetry and privacy

2020-11-03 Thread home user
My opinion: * I strongly prefer telemetry to be off by default, thus opt-in, in *everythng*. * I strongly prefer auto-updating (including checking for updates) to be off by default, thus opt-in, in *everything*. * I want *everything* to by default keep pre-update preferences, settings, etc.

Re: stop service

2020-11-03 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Nov 3, 2020, at 09:57, Patrick Dupre wrote: > > ps > root 34852 0.0 0.0 217124 3336 ?SOct29 0:00 /bin/sh > /usr/local/dwagent/native/dwagsvc run > > How can I stop/restart it? Run ‘cat /proc/34852/cgroup’ and you will see the systemd service name in the systemd

Re: f33 reboot didn't?

2020-11-03 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 3 Nov 2020 17:40:15 -0500 Tom Horsley wrote: > Could be. I'll try it without the final reboot command and see > what happens. The script is unchanged from earlier versions > of fedora where it was the only way to reboot without incessant > "a stop job is running" messages from systemd

Re: f33 reboot didn't?

2020-11-03 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 3 Nov 2020 16:20:56 -0600 Roger Heflin wrote: > Generally if a reboot script someone wrote acts like that it means > that some part of it killed something that immediately caused the > logout prior to the reboot command happening. Could be. I'll try it without the final reboot command

Re: f33 reboot didn't?

2020-11-03 Thread Roger Heflin
Generally if a reboot script someone wrote acts like that it means that some part of it killed something that immediately caused the logout prior to the reboot command happening. It may be that usually whatever it kills that causes the logout does not always kill the script prior to the reboot

Re: f33 reboot didn't?

2020-11-03 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/3/20 4:54 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: I just ran my normal reboot script which just kills off some things systemd has problems killing sometimes then does a reboot. It would help if you provided the script. Instead of rebooting, it acted like a logout. I logged back in again, and uptime

Re: f33 reboot didn't?

2020-11-03 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 4 Nov 2020 05:46:05 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > Should we assume that checking the journal didn't find anything? Nothing that looked meaningful to me, anyway :-). ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an

Re: f33 reboot didn't?

2020-11-03 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/11/2020 20:54, Tom Horsley wrote: I just ran my normal reboot script which just kills off some things systemd has problems killing sometimes then does a reboot. Instead of rebooting, it acted like a logout. I logged back in again, and uptime said 3 days. I rebooted again, and it really

Re: Fedora 33 question

2020-11-03 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/3/20 1:43 AM, David wrote: I did a "dnf clean all," and I already forgot if it deleted anything. All this does is remove any metadata files and already downloaded packages. You generally don't want to run that, because next time you run dnf, it will have to download *all* the metadata

Re: systemd-resolved and NM-managed dnsmasq both running

2020-11-03 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Tue, Nov 03, 2020 at 09:08:04AM -0600, Ian Pilcher wrote: > On 11/2/20 10:37 AM, Jonathan Billings wrote: > > I have a similar configuration, and at first I tried to get the > > dnsmasq to be used by systemd-resolved but it kept "forgetting" it and > > switching back to what DHCP used, so I

Re: Fedora-33 Instal method -

2020-11-03 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/11/2020 03:13, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 2020-11-03 11:09, Ed Greshko wrote: When you boot, Select "Install" and hit "TAB". You will then have the ability to exit the line in question. . Yes. 'tab' gives me a place to enter the command 'inst.text' however it eventually brings up the

Re: Fedora 33 question

2020-11-03 Thread stan via users
On Tue, 3 Nov 2020 03:43:26 -0600 David wrote: > My install of Fedora 33 was done using a nightly version on October > 9, that was built back in July > ( according to $ rpm -qi basesystem ) > > Do I need to do anything to it to clean it up ? The update you did below will clean it up. >

Re: Fedora-33 Instal method -

2020-11-03 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/11/2020 03:13, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 2020-11-03 11:09, Ed Greshko wrote: When you boot, Select "Install" and hit "TAB". You will then have the ability to exit the line in question. . Yes. 'tab' gives me a place to enter the command 'inst.text' however it eventually brings up the

Re: New parallel port card won't work

2020-11-03 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-11-02 18:51, Tom Horsley wrote: On Mon, 2 Nov 2020 18:16:08 -0800 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Ok, so nothing there.  Any luck with the driver? I will have to wait till tomorrow. So if you can build a working kernel, obviously the thing to do is make a virtual machine running that

[389-users] Announcing 389 Directory Server 2.0.1

2020-11-03 Thread Mark Reynolds
389 Directory Server 2.0.1 The 389 Directory Server team is proud to announce 389-ds-base version 2.0.1 Fedora packages are available on Rawhide (Fedora 34). Rawhide: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=54870733

Re: Fedora-33 Instal method -

2020-11-03 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 2020-11-03 11:09, Ed Greshko wrote: When you boot, Select "Install" and hit "TAB". You will then have the ability to exit the line in question. . Yes. 'tab' gives me a place to enter the command 'inst.text' however it eventually brings up the graphic install display. doing it from the

Re: How do I fix my messed up F31 boot partition setup ?

2020-11-03 Thread linux guy
IT WORKED ! You guys just saved me hours and hours of time reinstalling and setting up a new install on this computer. Thanks for the help ! Linux rocks. Fedora rocks ! ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an

Re: How do I fix my messed up F31 boot partition setup ?

2020-11-03 Thread linux guy
Here's the result: efibootmgr -c -w -L Fedora -d /dev/sdb -p 2 -l '\EFI\fedora\shimx64.efi' BootCurrent: 0002 Timeout: 2 seconds BootOrder: 0003,0002,0001, Boot* Windows Boot Manager Boot0001* Hard Drive Boot0002* UEFI: Patriot Memory PMAP Boot0003* Fedora I'm rebooting right now.

Re: How do I fix my messed up F31 boot partition setup ?

2020-11-03 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/3/20 8:25 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: If you get a single line error message from efibootmgr then we need to figure out what's going on. Seems like Windows 10 is installed with UEFI "enabled" and somehow Fedora got installed with a "Legacy BIOS" mode enabled. In which case it's easier to just

Re: How do I fix my messed up F31 boot partition setup ?

2020-11-03 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/3/20 8:39 AM, linux guy wrote:  efibootmgr -v BootCurrent: 0002 Timeout: 2 seconds BootOrder: 0002,0001, I don't understand where \\EFI\\fedora\\shimx64.efi is supposed to be. It's not there yet. It will get added after you run the command. And Chris is right, I forgot about the

Re: FYI: f33 crypto change ramifications

2020-11-03 Thread Kevin Becker
On Tue, 2020-11-03 at 10:31 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: > The default crypto policy changed once again in fedora 33, > which I didn't notice till I started trying to use rsync to > update my web pages on hostgator (which, by default, uses rsa > keys). > > Kept asking for my password even though I

Re: How do I fix my messed up F31 boot partition setup ?

2020-11-03 Thread linux guy
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Re: How do I fix my messed up F31 boot partition setup ?

2020-11-03 Thread linux guy
efibootmgr -v BootCurrent: 0002 Timeout: 2 seconds BootOrder: 0002,0001, Boot* Windows Boot Manager

Re: How do I fix my messed up F31 boot partition setup ?

2020-11-03 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 9:11 AM linux guy wrote: > > "Try this command and see if it works: efibootmgr -c -w -L Fedora -d /dev/sdb > -p 2 -l \EFI\fedora\shimx64.efi" > > What directory should I run this from ? Doesn't matter. But you might just report what you get for 'efibootmgr -v' first. If

Re: New parallel port card won't work

2020-11-03 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 2 Nov 2020 18:16:08 -0800 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > > Ok, so nothing there.  Any luck with the driver? > > I will have to wait till tomorrow. So if you can build a working kernel, obviously the thing to do is make a virtual machine running that kernel and use pci passthrough to

f33 reboot didn't?

2020-11-03 Thread Tom Horsley
I just ran my normal reboot script which just kills off some things systemd has problems killing sometimes then does a reboot. Instead of rebooting, it acted like a logout. I logged back in again, and uptime said 3 days. I rebooted again, and it really did reboot the 2nd time. What the heck

Re: Deprecating SCP

2020-11-03 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 2 Nov 2020 15:44:39 +0100 Jakub Jelen wrote: > Do you have something against this? I use the scp command all the time, if the command is still there I don't care if it does something different under the hood. I suppose I could always use rsync instead of the command disappeared.

FYI: f33 crypto change ramifications

2020-11-03 Thread Tom Horsley
I don't recall seeing this mentioned here, and since I just spent all morning discovering it, I thought I'd let people know. The default crypto policy changed once again in fedora 33, which I didn't notice till I started trying to use rsync to update my web pages on hostgator (which, by default,

Re: F32->F33: Upgrade or reinstall?

2020-11-03 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 2:25 AM Christopher Ross wrote: > > Is this the best advice for complicated setups too? My main computer has > been upgraded again and again since about Fedora 18, with parts being > changed out as and when. When new disks are added the old ones remain > until they die;

Re: stop service

2020-11-03 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/11/2020 22:56, Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, I have dwservice running, ps root 34852 0.0 0.0 217124 3336 ?SOct29 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/local/dwagent/native/dwagsvc run How can I stop/restart it? You are asking about something not included with Fedora, right? You are

Re: How do I fix my messed up F31 boot partition setup ?

2020-11-03 Thread linux guy
"Try this command and see if it works: efibootmgr -c -w -L Fedora -d /dev/sdb -p 2 -l \EFI\fedora\shimx64.efi" What directory should I run this from ? On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 2:55 AM Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 11/2/20 11:49 PM, linux guy wrote: > > I'm running a live install via USB. > > > > I'm

Re: Fedora-33 Instal method -

2020-11-03 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/11/2020 22:25, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 2020-11-03 01:39, Chris Murphy wrote: the command line and add 'inst.text' and you'll get the text installer. . How do I do this? My options appear to be only: Install to disk, check media, troubleshoot I tried "troubleshoot" but found no way to

Re: stop service

2020-11-03 Thread Patrick Dupre
This what I tried, but: systemctl status dwservice Unit dwservice.service could not be found. or Unit dwagsvc.service could not be found.     like   systemctl [start|stop|etc]  dwservice    ???   On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at

Re: stop service

2020-11-03 Thread Jack Craig
like systemctl [start|stop|etc] dwservice??? On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 6:57 AM Patrick Dupre wrote: > Hello, > > I have dwservice running, > > ps > root 34852 0.0 0.0 217124 3336 ?SOct29 0:00 /bin/sh >

Re: systemd-resolved and NM-managed dnsmasq both running

2020-11-03 Thread Ian Pilcher
On 11/2/20 10:37 AM, Jonathan Billings wrote: I have a similar configuration, and at first I tried to get the dnsmasq to be used by systemd-resolved but it kept "forgetting" it and switching back to what DHCP used, so I just stopped, disabled and masked systemd-resolved.service, deleted

stop service

2020-11-03 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello, I have dwservice running, ps root 34852 0.0 0.0 217124 3336 ?SOct29 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/local/dwagent/native/dwagsvc run How can I stop/restart it? Thanks. === Patrick DUPRÉ

Re: Fedora-33 Instal method -

2020-11-03 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 2020-11-03 01:39, Chris Murphy wrote: the command line and add 'inst.text' and you'll get the text installer. . How do I do this? My options appear to be only: Install to disk, check media, troubleshoot I tried "troubleshoot" but found no way to enter the command 'inst.text' What am I

Re: F32->F33: Upgrade or reinstall?

2020-11-03 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2020-11-03 at 00:13 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 5:45 AM Patrick O'Callaghan > wrote: > > I'd normally upgrade, but my /dev/sda uses LVM to handle root, /home > > etc. and from what I read this cannot be converted directly to BTRFS, > > which I'm interested in

f31:: thunderbird/kde:: extension of window below desktop

2020-11-03 Thread Adrian Sevcenco
Hi! So, because my mouse started to root it seems that a wrong or too long click did something to my thunderbird: the thunderbird windows actually goes under what is possible below desktop. The scrolling goes under the monitor window and obviously the cursor cannot go there. the thunderbird

Re: Deprecating SCP

2020-11-03 Thread Jakub Jelen
On 11/2/20 4:57 PM, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote: Hi. On Mon, 02 Nov 2020 15:44:39 +0100 Jakub Jelen wrote: Is this something you would like to see in Fedora soon? No. I prefer a lot to use rsync, because scp: - has no dry-run mode - is not incremental - follows symlinks when

Fedora 33 question

2020-11-03 Thread David
My install of Fedora 33 was done using a nightly version on October 9, that was built back in July ( according to $ rpm -qi basesystem ) Do I need to do anything to it to clean it up ? I did a "dnf clean all," and I already forgot if it deleted anything. Second question, I just did an

Re: Deprecating SCP

2020-11-03 Thread Jakub Jelen
On 11/2/20 5:13 PM, Joe Wulf via users wrote: Improving the state of security for SCP is overdue.  Like you've said, Jakub, the code just hasn't been worked on in a long time, nor been well-maintained. I am curious to better understand if the scp binary, as implemented, has security-related

Re: F32->F33: Upgrade or reinstall?

2020-11-03 Thread Christopher Ross
On 03/11/2020 07:13, Chris Murphy wrote: On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 5:45 AM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I'd normally upgrade, but my /dev/sda uses LVM to handle root, /home etc. and from what I read this cannot be converted directly to BTRFS, which I'm interested in using. ext4 can be converted

Re: Deprecating SCP

2020-11-03 Thread Jakub Jelen
On 11/2/20 4:09 PM, Ian Pilcher wrote: On 11/2/20 8:44 AM, Jakub Jelen wrote: I am looking for any kind of feedback from the idea through the usability, implementation. Is this something you would like to see in Fedora soon? Do you have something against this? Is your use case missing? What