mputers do what they want. (Thus
is, by the way, Freedom 1 of the Free Software Definition.) Surely it
must be possible to change Fedora+Wayland to enable the use of
graphical root applications for those users who want to do that. We
don't need anyone's permission.
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On 16/06/16 04:29, Tim wrote:
> The point of shared libraries is efficiency. Just wait to you
> install a dozen things that required Java, for instance, and they
> all decide that they need to bring in their own, rather than use a
> system installation.
Here's a thought: couldn't this system
On 20/02/16 22:27, Ntlworld wrote:
> Because my friend not many of us in this day & age have time to
> spend cutting & pasting bits of an email chain!
You're thinking about this the wrong way. Not many of us in "this day
and age" have enough time to read email. For every email you write
there
On 12/09/2015 11:31 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Wed, 2015-12-09 at 16:17 +0600, Junayeed Ahnaf wrote:
>> I haven't been using Fedora for a while (2+ years) and yesterday I
>> installed
>> fedora on dad's computer and see that they replaced yum with dnf. Now
>> the
>> question is why was
On 13/11/15 02:38, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> Awk can do what you want:
> {
> lines[NR]=$NF " " $0
> }
>
> END {
> PROCINFO["sorted_in"]="@val_type_asc"
> for line in lines {
> j=index(line, " ")
> print substr(line, j+1)
> }
Close, but no cigar.
#!/bin/awk -f
{
On 01/12/2015 05:25 PM, Angelo Moreschini wrote:
Hi,
I would like to know the process number of an application that actually is
running (Netbeans in my case), with the purpose to kill it (when is froze).
But am am not able to know this process number..
- In the window of
On 04/16/2014 09:31 AM, Arthur Dent wrote:
Hello all, With what (I hope) will be my final update on this issue.
This machine is a simple home server. It runs headless and is on 24/7. I an
in the habit running yum update once per month and only then rebooting (and
only then because the yum
On 04/21/2014 04:36 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 09:11:58PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
I don't know when the aged based cleaning started, but it isn't expressly
stated in the original feature and I'm not finding a followup feature that
indicates this change. On the other
On 04/18/2014 12:56 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 7:43 PM, Tucker wrote:
That's helpful, thanks. There appear to be a number of services that
depend on the tmpfiles.d conf files. I don't want to break things like
kmod, I just want this thing that's doing Bad Things to
On 11/24/2013 04:53 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Nov 24, 2013, at 6:15 AM, Andrew Haley a...@redhat.com wrote:
On 11/23/2013 03:55 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Nov 23, 2013, at 3:47 AM, Andrew Haley a...@redhat.com wrote:
On 11/22/2013 09:44 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
Nope, you're wrong. Find
On 11/22/2013 01:05 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
You know what you prefer and it is available in the repo. It shouldn't
matter much to you what the default is.
I don't think that's entirely true. Those of us who use a lot of
systems and support others need a reasonably sane set of defaults.
We
On 11/23/2013 03:55 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Nov 23, 2013, at 3:47 AM, Andrew Haley a...@redhat.com wrote:
On 11/22/2013 09:44 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
Nope, you're wrong. Find a copy of New Oxford American Dictionary
and look up the words and usage. I seriously doubt even Oxford
On 11/22/2013 09:44 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
Nope, you're wrong. Find a copy of New Oxford American Dictionary
and look up the words and usage. I seriously doubt even Oxford
English makes such a big distinction between two words that share
the same etymology and have no good reason for meaning
On 10/08/2013 08:30 AM, Suvayu Ali wrote:
Okay, found my problem. I have to explicitly choose C++11. I did not
realise C++11 was not the default. Any ideas why?
We (GCC maintainers) tend to change defaults when it's what the
majority of users want. For most people C++11 is still
On 09/05/2013 09:41 PM, Javier Perez wrote:
After reading this, I am turning off SELINUX
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/05/nsa-gchq-encryption-codes-security
Until I hear of a thorough code review by a non-USA team of this code, I
do not feel safe using it, privacy wise.
On 09/06/2013 01:09 PM, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote:
I need to be able to collaborate writing documents with colleagues who
use MS Office. That is, we send documents back and forth while each party
edits them.
It used to be that LibreOffice was acceptable, although way from perfect.
But
On 08/12/2013 03:17 PM, Georgios Petasis wrote:
Is there a reason my java 1.7 is not updated to java 1.8 with yum -y
update?
java 1.8 doesn't exist. We've not even finished the spec yet. There
is a preview that people can play with, but it's certainly not an
update.
Andrew.
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On 08/12/2013 03:45 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 08/12/13 22:37, Andrew Haley wrote:
On 08/12/2013 03:17 PM, Georgios Petasis wrote:
Is there a reason my java 1.7 is not updated to java 1.8 with yum -y
update?
java 1.8 doesn't exist. We've not even finished the spec yet. There
is a preview
On 08/10/2013 12:34 AM, Andras Simon wrote:
... and user-set values will be reset to the default according to
http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/23.0/releasenotes/
Thank you Mozilla Foundation, you have just made my netbook unusable.
What do people suggest? The NoScript addon? A
On 08/08/2013 10:04 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
do you use 32 or 64 bits ?
My understanding is that it is a 32 bit CPU (T2300), it does want
to read a 64 bit iso DVD.
Here says it's a 64-bit CPU:
On 08/08/2013 01:29 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
However, do you think that it will extend the accessible memory since it seems
that it is a chipset issue?
I doubt it.
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On 08/08/2013 01:50 PM, John Pilkington wrote:
On 08/08/13 13:19, Andrew Haley wrote:
On 08/08/2013 10:04 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
do you use 32 or 64 bits ?
My understanding is that it is a 32 bit CPU (T2300), it does want
to read a 64 bit iso DVD.
Here says it's a 64-bit CPU:
http
On 07/31/2013 12:59 AM, jdow wrote:
Andrew, one thing a woman needs to develop to survive in the technical
fields is an incredibly thick skin.
I know, and that's what needs to change or many of the best brains
will continue to move to jobs where a noisy minority can't get away
with being
On 07/16/2013 06:10 PM, Rex Dieter wrote:
Reindl Harald wrote:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.stable/58049/focus%3D1525074
From: Linus Torvalds torvalds at linux-foundation.org
Linus is in a very special category, and I don't think his justifications
can be applied to
On 07/12/2013 05:44 AM, antonio montagnani wrote:
We made un update to a laptop, fedup worked very well but now user when
starts arduino gets a message (we can see it in a terminal) that can't
create a Java virtual machine. Same Arduino worked fine in F18
Is Java even installed? Does it
On 07/14/2013 05:31 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
So I was thinking this morning: isn't it time to get back to the old
way of naming Fedora releases (if at all) where we had such good names
(places, I believe: Cambridge, Heidelberg, etc) instead of these
nonsensical two-word names **apparently**
On 03/15/2013 09:09 PM, McCrina, Nathan wrote:
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On 02/06/2013 06:19 PM, Germán A. Racca wrote:
Hi people,
I have recently bought an external hard drive of 1 Tb capacity (Samsung
M3). I made a backup of my home directory with the following command:
$ cd /home
$ rsync -avh --delete --stats --exclude=*.vdi --exclude=*.iso german
On 01/22/2013 01:08 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
is there a recommendation for installing F18 in terms of separating
what's appropriate for the SSD versus what isn't? most of that is
fairly obvious, just wondering if anyone wrote up something about
their experience doing just that and how
On 11/03/12 13:30, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 11/03/2012 09:18 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
f17. Was using nvidia + google-chrome-unstable.
Somehow, today flash doesn't work. chrome about:plugins says:
Adobe Flash Player - Version: 11.5.31.1
Shockwave Flash 11.5 r31
Name:Shockwave Flash
On 11/04/12 10:13, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 11/04/2012 05:41 PM, Andrew Haley wrote:
On 11/03/12 13:30, Ed Greshko wrote:
You could try reverting to google-chrome-stable. It is running just fine
for me
It didn't help me. Every time it tries to run anything flash, it immediately
crashes
On 08/11/2012 04:16 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012, David wrote:
This list is a 'help-me-with-my-problem' list. You did not ask for help.
Some called your post a rant. Some might call it a troll. This list is
One person called it a rant, me.
You have a thing against
On 08/01/2012 12:51 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Am I the only person who thinks that the whole idea should be dropped?
I never, ever, heard anyone refer to Fedora-17 as Fedora Beefy Miracle
(if that is indeed the right name).
No, you're not the only one. We discussed this at the time.
We took a
On 07/30/2012 06:09 AM, Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor wrote:
Just thought about asking you guys what the actual name is, Linux or
GNU/Linux (In our Bangladeshi community, we're really divided on this
issue).
I personally prefer Linux , what do you think?
If you haven't done so already, I think
On 07/24/2012 01:24 PM, Philippe LeCavalier wrote:
video chipset:
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS,
943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME,
943/940GML Express
On 07/24/2012 02:33 PM, Philippe LeCavalier wrote:
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Andrew Haley a...@redhat.com wrote:
On 07/24/2012 01:24 PM, Philippe LeCavalier wrote:
video chipset:
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS,
943/940GML Express Integrated
On 07/24/2012 04:20 PM, Philippe LeCavalier wrote:
Yeah. It doesn't appear to be a hardware thing. xrandr --auto --output
VGA1 --same-as LVDS1 does the same as merely connecting the monitor itself.
LCD flickers and comes back and the monitor does nothing. To me, the fact
that the LCD flickers
On 07/24/2012 06:41 PM, Philippe LeCavalier wrote:
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Andrew Haley a...@redhat.com wrote:
On 07/24/2012 04:20 PM, Philippe LeCavalier wrote:
Yeah. It doesn't appear to be a hardware thing. xrandr --auto --output
VGA1 --same-as LVDS1 does the same as merely
On 07/20/2012 12:36 AM, Veeti Paananen wrote:
Speaking of RAM, I try to avoid Java-based desktop applications like the
plague because almost every single one of them seems to hog up a minimum
of 100MB (and usually more) of RAM immediately.
Are you sure that really is RSS? Java maps a big
On 07/20/2012 02:05 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Not sure what this has to do with naming Fedora releases,
but I very much hope that hibernate is not removed,
as I use it all the time without problem,
and find it extremely useful.
Absolutely. It is extremely useful, and removing it makes us
On 07/16/2012 12:00 AM, Jared K. Smith wrote:
A co-worker has a similar problem with a new Lenovo ThinkPad -- it
turns out something about the audio chip was taking a lot more cpu
cycles than it should be -- I'll try to dig out some more details from
him.
Fascinating. If so, how come those
On 07/13/2012 08:26 PM, Skunk Worx wrote:
Do you think this is a won't fix or not a bug?
You've already had the correct answer from Ian Taylor on the gcc-help
list. You're not going to get anything more authoritative here.
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On 07/12/2012 12:00 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote:
So my question is since CPU usage is already so low, what could be
driving up the system load? This is bugging me since I also see a
general sluggishness compared to a much faster system early this year.
top should show you. How much time in idle and
On 07/12/2012 03:02 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote:
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 02:29:54PM +0100, Andrew Haley wrote:
On 07/12/2012 12:00 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote:
So my question is since CPU usage is already so low, what could be
driving up the system load? This is bugging me since I also see a
general
On 07/04/2012 08:43 PM, Robert Myers wrote:
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Robert Myers rbmyers...@gmail.com wrote:
I am anticipating that I will be able to do that in Ubuntu but not in
Fedora, and conversations in
On 07/04/2012 08:29 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote:
Java lovers answer me why am I having problems running Java applets
like internet banking in my Firefox on Fedora if it's so superior
and very well supported environment?
Probably because you haven't told us about them.
Banking applets are
On 07/05/2012 12:39 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
What I´m saying is that if someone is pushing for Gnome to become
infected with Mono, it´s a way better choice to make it depend on the
GPL´ed OpenJDK rather than .Net which is a Microsoft controlled
platform.
Absolutely.
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On 07/04/2012 04:48 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote:
On 04.07.2012 05:28, Fernando Cassia wrote:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=MTEzMjM
I'd rather see more Gnome projects using OpenJDK and
http://java-gnome.sourceforge.net/ rather than the .Net clone Mono.
Java? This fat
On 06/19/2012 01:26 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Regarding problems with GNOME, I just wish
Fedora would give an honest, straightforward choice of desktop environment.
(I feel the same about the partition setup.)
I feel I am almost being tricked into using GNOME,
since one has to jump through a
On 06/18/2012 05:36 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
On Mon, 2012-06-18 at 09:17 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 06/18/2012 06:24 AM, Olav Vitters wrote:
If the review just focusses on the
desktop environment, then at least you can assume that the distribution
part was good.
True. You should, however,
On 06/18/2012 06:06 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 18.06.2012 19:00, schrieb Andrew Haley:
Fedora already did. No-one is saying that your complaints are not
justified, just that they're in the wrong place. Fedora will continue
to provide alternatives to GNOME for people who don't like
On 06/11/2012 11:27 PM, Alan Cox wrote:
Far from it. x32 is designed for performance. There are many applications
where the additional space occupied by 64bit pointers is a measurable
performance hit, but you still want to use the 64bit features of the CPU
in all other respects.
It's pretty
On 05/31/2012 09:33 PM, Fernando Lozano wrote:
OpenJDK6 will no longer get security updates after November 2012:
http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/discuss/2012-February/002514.html
A large part of the problem is that we will not have access to all the
security vulnerability
On 05/29/2012 09:22 PM, Tommy Pham wrote:
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Andrew Haley a...@redhat.com wrote:
On 05/29/2012 06:26 PM, Tommy Pham wrote:
Is it possible to have remote access via VNC without having the user
to be logged in (automatically, especially on a system reboot)?
I
On 05/31/2012 01:36 PM, Tommy Pham wrote:
There's no problem really except that it's an additional manual step
I'd like to avoid.
Oh, I *see*. I thought you couldn't connect. :-)
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On 05/31/2012 12:57 PM, Fernando Lozano wrote:
I was surprized that F17 uses OpenJDK7 by default but does not includes
OpenJDK6 packages also, like F16 did.
If I have some app which cannot run on Java 7, what should I do? I know
I can download the proprietary JDK6 from Oracle, but I'd
On 05/31/2012 02:09 PM, Christopher Svanefalk wrote:
I find this design decision very odd, exactly for the reasons you
mentioned. Java 7 is, to my knowledge, far from universally supported. I
would have waited for at least another release or two before phasing out
Java 6.
We did think about
Hi,
On 05/31/2012 02:24 PM, Fernando Lozano wrote:
I find this design decision very odd, exactly for the reasons you
mentioned. Java 7 is, to my knowledge, far from universally supported. I
would have waited for at least another release or two before phasing out
Java 6.
We did think about
On 05/29/2012 06:26 PM, Tommy Pham wrote:
Is it possible to have remote access via VNC without having the user
to be logged in (automatically, especially on a system reboot)?
I don't get the problem. You don't have to be logged in on
the console, or anything like that. You just have to be
On 05/23/2012 05:15 PM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
Steven Ulrick meow8...@gmail.com writes:
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 5:10 AM, Steven P. Ulrick meow8...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello, Everyone
For quite a while now, Emacs has ceased being useable on our system. For
example, if I run emacs .bashrc
On 05/20/2012 10:57 PM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
sync; sync; sync;
It's been a few years since I saw that. :-)
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On 05/02/2012 06:07 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Wed, 02 May 2012 17:19:31 +0100
Andrew Haley wrote:
If the masses vote for
an adjective-noun form, they shall have their way.
What masses? I heard about a vote to vote on elimination
of code names and spent three days trying to figure out
On 05/01/2012 06:20 PM, DJ Delorie wrote:
Spherical Cow
Can we add a rule for F19 that the name shall not be an adjective-noun
form?
Such as Beefy Miracle, perhaps?
IMO, such a rule would be deeply undemocratic. If the masses vote for
an adjective-noun form, they shall have their
On 04/05/2012 08:10 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
Andrew Haley wrote:
On 04/04/2012 06:47 AM, Zoltan Szecsei wrote:
Well, perhaps someone should also think about impact of name-changing.
Quite frankly, what's in a name, so why change it?
It's because in the old scheme when a machine had several
On 04/04/2012 06:47 AM, Zoltan Szecsei wrote:
Well, perhaps someone should also think about impact of name-changing.
Quite frankly, what's in a name, so why change it?
It's because in the old scheme when a machine had several ports the
mapping between the physical hardware and the dev nodes
On 04/02/2012 05:36 PM, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote:
Personally, systemd may have some benefit on desktops, but at
servers, small and embedded devices is perhaps overkill.
I see a great performance improvement on my little ARM systems.
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On 03/22/2012 11:56 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
I'd take grub2 and systemctl as two examples.
In each case I've read the documentation and understand the motivation
behind these developments.
But I remain unconvinced that the gains outweigh the disadvantages
of methods that are much harder to
On 03/03/2012 04:21 AM, fred smith wrote:
the 901 is 8.9 inches, and natively does 1024x600.
I've used Fedora 10, 11, 12, 13 and 14 on it extensively, and F15
for testing and they all detected it properly.
That's very worrying, because I was about to upgrade myself. I think
I'll install
On 02/09/2012 05:10 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
I have a screen 1920x1080 which the size is not detected (the maximum
size detected is 1024x768 (graphic card: GeForce 210).
fedora16.
How can I switch to such a 1920x1080 resolution?
That's very odd. I'm using the nouveau driver, and 2560x1600
Have you got something in /etc/X11/xorg.conf or /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ?
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On 02/09/2012 07:42 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
On Thu, 9 Feb 2012, Patrick Dupre wrote:
On Thu, 9 Feb 2012, Andrew Haley wrote:
How do I generate a /ect/X11/xorg.conf?
There should not be one. That's ancient history. Everything
should be autodetected. The interesting question in your case
On 01/22/2012 01:51 AM, edik landave wrote:
#replace the java version name for the one you have downloaded
#This have worked for me:
1. Download jre-6u27-linux-i586.bin from the SUN site.
2. su--pwd--mv jre-6u27-linux-i586.bin to /usr/local
3. chmod u+x jre-6u27-linux-i586.bin
4. verify
On 12/21/2011 06:17 PM, Richard Heck wrote:
On 12/21/2011 12:42 PM, Richard Heck wrote:
As suggested, I've run systemd-analyze, and get:
/home/rgheck/ systemd-analyze blame | head
60247ms sendmail.service
60228ms home-rgheck-files.mount
60192ms mnt-mail-multi.mount
2537ms
On 12/14/2011 05:30 PM, Lawrence Graves wrote:
I just re-installed Fedora 16 on my desktop and before the re-install
every thing was running fine. Now Gnome3 is freezing and nautilus is
having trouble opening and the list goes on. I agree with Christopher
and Cox, maybe there needs to be a
On 12/06/2011 06:56 AM, vikramsp wrote:
I tried to install the driver downloaded from xerox official website.
When i run the command ./xpadmin and setup accordingly and give
a test-run; the xerox workcentre 7242 gives somes response, make
sound but do not print. I have also setup user account
On 12/06/2011 04:19 AM, Misha Shnurapet wrote:
05.12.2011, 21:06, Andrew Haley a...@redhat.com:
Ah, it's the *users'* own fault, for not spending enough time reading
the GNOME 3 mailing lists. How stupid of them.
It looks like you prioritize knowlege of science fiction comedy over
On 12/05/2011 09:56 AM, Misha Shnurapet wrote:
And before GNOME 3.0 was released, there had been loads of tech
previews, presentations, alpha and beta builds, blog posts,
screenshots, videos and all kinds of other information on the
Internet about what the new GNOME 3 was going to be. The
On 11/29/2011 11:33 AM, ferna...@lozano.eti.br wrote:
Original Message
From: Andrew Haley a...@redhat.com
Sent: Sex, Nov 4, 2011, 12:13 PM
And what about certification? Is there a TCK for Java 7? Will OpenJDK 7 on
Fedora be certified for Fedora 16 at release or at a later update
On 11/29/2011 03:33 PM, ferna...@lozano.eti.br wrote:
Hi,
If I am, is there a timeframe for certified builds?
No.
:-(
Please, Red Hat, drop a few bucks for this! ;-)
What has Red Hat's bucks got to do with this?
And while we're talking about Java 7, I heard about serious problems
On 11/29/2011 06:42 PM, ferna...@lozano.eti.br wrote:
If I am, is there a timeframe for certified builds?
No.
:-(
Please, Red Hat, drop a few bucks for this! ;-)
What has Red Hat's bucks got to do with this?
Sorta kidding -- see the ;-) ?
But isn't Red Hat kindgly giving time of
On 11/08/2011 06:22 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
I've tried downloading some tarballs and compiling them, without
success. In each case, ./configure complains that it can't find one or
more libraries that I have installed. Checking, it turns out that
PKG_CONFIG_PATH isn't set.
This leads to two
On 11/04/2011 02:05 PM, ferna...@lozano.eti.br wrote:
I saw messages on the archives stating that OpenJDK 7 would be the default
Java for Fedora, such as:
http://osdir.com/ml/fedora-devel-list/2011-08/msg01586.html
But the features page states that OpenJDK 6 will be the default, which
On 11/04/2011 02:35 PM, ferna...@lozano.eti.br wrote:
And about OpenJDK6 packates included on Fedora, I guess they are
also built using IcedTea. But are they certified?
Yes.
And I guess correctly openjdk6/7 packages in Ubuntu and Debian are
also built from IcedTea? Certification is the same
On 11/04/2011 04:43 PM, ferna...@lozano.eti.br wrote:
From: Andrew Haley a...@redhat.com
And I guess correctly openjdk6/7 packages in Ubuntu and Debian are
also built from IcedTea? Certification is the same for them or each
linux distro has to make their own certification?
The latter: only
On 11/04/2011 04:52 PM, ferna...@lozano.eti.br wrote:
But I don't understand, what is top-post ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Top-posting
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On 11/04/2011 05:05 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
Top posting is considered bad manners in most technical fora because it
reverses the normal order of conversations, putting the answer before
the question.
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such
On 10/27/2011 11:52 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
I personally care most about James Gosling, Linus Torvalds, and Mike
Cowlishaw, father of Rexx and NetRexx. Inventors of other languages /
software that I don´t use, are irrelevant. ;-)
Well, McCarthy was one of the designers of ALGOL, and in
On 10/11/2011 02:17 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 07:09:29 -0500 Christoph Wickert
christoph.wick...@googlemail.com wrote:
Am Dienstag, den 11.10.2011, 19:25 +0800 schrieb Ed Greshko:
I frankly (no pun intended) don't think Beefy Miracle is a name to be
proud of.
I do.
On 09/29/2011 02:02 AM, Craig White wrote:
On Wed, 2011-09-28 at 15:15 +0100, Andrew Haley wrote:
I think you're missing the point. A major goal of any leading-edge
distro is to get feedback from users on new features. In other words,
getting negative feedback from users isn't a bug, it's
On 09/29/2011 12:27 PM, Craig White wrote:
On Thu, 2011-09-29 at 10:46 +0100, Andrew Haley wrote:
On 09/29/2011 02:02 AM, Craig White wrote:
On Wed, 2011-09-28 at 15:15 +0100, Andrew Haley wrote:
I think you're missing the point. A major goal of any leading-edge
distro is to get feedback
On 09/28/2011 03:58 AM, Kernel Guardian wrote:
At the end, using of Free Software is liberty/freedom of choice. There
are many opportunities: KDE, XFCE, LXDE They have been created as
response from people who thought differently. This is a waste of
energy, time, resources, even money.
On 09/28/2011 11:12 AM, Craig White wrote:
Just look at the feedback on the new Macintosh OS X Lion or Windows 8
preview... there is a lot of griping about the changes to the UI. It's
certain that regardless of the OS, changes to the UI will always raise a
bunch of complaints and the more
On 09/28/2011 11:47 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote:
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 11:39:51AM +0100, Andrew Haley wrote:
When Linus Torvalds says I want my sane interfaces back. I have yet
to meet anybody who likes the unholy mess that is gnome-3 the problem
has to be taken seriously. (It's not just
On 09/28/2011 12:37 PM, Craig White wrote:
On Wed, 2011-09-28 at 11:39 +0100, Andrew Haley wrote:
On 09/28/2011 11:12 AM, Craig White wrote:
Just look at the feedback on the new Macintosh OS X Lion or Windows 8
preview... there is a lot of griping about the changes to the UI. It's
certain
On 09/26/2011 11:59 PM, Roger wrote:
On 26/09/11 19:38, Andrew Haley wrote:
On 09/22/2011 02:15 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
Alan Cox is exactly right that the users of Fedora products get them
free and one can make a strong case that therefore Fedora developers
have no responsibility to listen
On 09/27/2011 12:01 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 09/27/2011 11:59 AM, Andrew Haley wrote:
On 09/26/2011 11:59 PM, Roger wrote:
On 26/09/11 19:38, Andrew Haley wrote:
On 09/22/2011 02:15 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
Alan Cox is exactly right that the users of Fedora products get them
free and one
On 09/22/2011 02:15 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
Alan Cox is exactly right that the users of Fedora products get them
free and one can make a strong case that therefore Fedora developers
have no responsibility to listen to user's complaints.
However, the Fedora users provide a service to the
On 09/12/2011 07:47 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 09/12/2011 11:05 AM, Frederick N. Brier wrote:
Wow. Thank you. I was hesitant to try KDE after reading about 4.x, but
XFCE has brought most of the snappiness back to my machine.
There's an old trick that most of the early window managers used that
On 09/06/2011 02:05 AM, nomnex wrote:
On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 16:39:05 +0530
Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote:
On 09/05/2011 04:13 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Mon, 5 Sep 2011 12:27:46 +0200
Alexander Volovics wrote:
Why does Fedora lag behind Ubuntu in this regard while usually
On 09/02/2011 12:43 PM, Łukasz Jagiełło wrote:
2011/9/2 Amadeus W.M. amadeu...@verizon.net:
But it's a sin to take something good - granted, possibly not perfect -
and turn it into something unusable for so many people. Why did the UI
have to change to something that looks and feels like a
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