On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 17:37:09 +
Barry Scott wrote:
> > On 15 Nov 2023, at 17:21, stan via users
> > wrote:
> >
> > I work around that by configuring hh and uu as . Since I
> > (almost) always finish input by pressing one of them, the command
> > mode is available, so I just hit
> > :w
> >
On Wed, 2023-11-15 at 20:11 -0600, Ranjan Maitra via users wrote:
> For good measure, I even mapped out how to get out of the insert mode
> directly, without having to launch a few missiles too:
>
> inoremap :q
>
> These seem to work.
Doesn't just hitting ESCAPE do that?
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On Wed Nov15'23 09:58:23AM, Community Support for Fedora Users wrote:
> From: Ranjan Maitra via users
> Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2023 09:58:23 -0600
> To: Community support for Fedora users
> Cc: Ranjan Maitra
> Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users
> Subject: Re: emacs is h
> On 15 Nov 2023, at 17:21, stan via users
> wrote:
>
> I work around that by configuring hh and uu as . Since I
> (almost) always finish input by pressing one of them, the command
> mode is available, so I just hit
> :w
> to save. I guess it is a matter of taste, a trade off.
I know few
ommunity support for
> > Fedora users Subject: Re: emacs is
> > hopeless
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 9:04 AM Ranjan Maitra via users <
> > users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> >
> > > [...]
> > > I also tried emacs-nox and h
On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 10:58 AM Ranjan Maitra via users
wrote:
>
> [...]
> I have pretty much given up on emacs now and am working to get nvim to a
> (for me) saner state. It is quite amazing how quickly we adapt to new
> environments, though falling back to old ways of doing things, out of
>
On Wed Nov15'23 11:21:51AM, George N. White III wrote:
> From: "George N. White III"
> Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2023 11:21:51 -0400
> To: Community support for Fedora users
> Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users
> Subject: Re: emacs is hopeless
>
> On Tue, Nov 14
On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 5:14 AM Tim via users
wrote:
>
> Aha. I had been using dd as a delete for a long time, never thought of
> it as part of a cut (and keep in a buffer). The paste one is one I
> always forget, heck knows why since they used the letter P. It is a
> rarity that I use it
On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 6:12 PM Ranjan Maitra via users <
users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> [...]
>
Still sad about having to give up on emacs, but, oh, well! ESS is not
> really that well-supported (on Fedora, at least anymore).
>
There has been very little activity in the ESS site.
Tim:
>> Gvim fits that bill, and I can manage to use vim over ssh without a GUI
>> when I need to fix things up, though I can never remember how to do cut
>> and paste that way.
home user:
> Tim, I hope I'm not misunderstanding you, but in (g)vim,
> the "dd" command deletes (cuts) the lines,
Ranjan Maitra via users composed on 2023-11-14 13:26 (UTC-0600):
> What really irritates me about vi and its friends is that it throws you
> out of editing (insert) mode in order to save the file, and needs
> another key to come back in.
I suppose mcedit, from within or without mc, or
On 11/14/23 7:29 PM, Tim via users wrote:
On Tue, 2023-11-14 at 13:26 -0600, Ranjan Maitra via users wrote:
[... snip ...]> Gvim fits that bill, and I can manage to use
vim over ssh without a GUI when I need to fix things up, though I can
never remember how to do cut and paste that way.
On Tue, 2023-11-14 at 13:26 -0600, Ranjan Maitra via users wrote:
> What really irritates me about vi and its friends is that it throws you
> out of editing (insert) mode in order to save the file, and needs
> another key to come back in.
That's one thing I like about gvim, you can just click a
On Tue Nov14'23 06:02:27PM, George N. White III wrote:
> From: "George N. White III"
> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2023 18:02:27 -0400
> To: Community support for Fedora users
> Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users
> Subject: Re: emacs is hopeless
>
> On Tue, Nov 14
On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 3:26 PM Ranjan Maitra via users <
users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>
> Indeed, the culprit appears to have been the emacs-ess package, which
> was creating issues even with it not being called.
>
> Unfortunately, for me, emacs-ess was the main selling point of emacs,
On Wed Nov15'23 08:38:07AM, Stephen Morris wrote:
> From: Stephen Morris
> Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2023 08:38:07 +1100
> To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users
> Subject: Re: [Off List] Re: emacs is hopeless
>
> On 15/11/23 06:36, Joe Zef
On 15/11/23 06:36, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 11/14/2023 12:26 PM, Ranjan Maitra via users wrote:
What really irritates me about vi and its friends is that it throws you
out of editing (insert) mode in order to save the file, and needs
another key to come back in.
You might want to consider nano; the
On 11/14/2023 01:40 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
The problem appears to be wayland, I thought I had tested under
x11 and wayland, but gnome was sneaking a wayland session
into existence behind my back. When I really managed to start
in x11 for sure, emacs no longer seemed wacky.
Two suggestions:
Incidentally, I've updated my bugzilla:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2249379
The problem appears to be wayland, I thought I had tested under
x11 and wayland, but gnome was sneaking a wayland session
into existence behind my back. When I really managed to start
in x11 for sure,
2023-11-14 20:36 UTC+01:00, Joe Zeff :
> On 11/14/2023 12:26 PM, Ranjan Maitra via users wrote:
>> What really irritates me about vi and its friends is that it throws you
>> out of editing (insert) mode in order to save the file, and needs
>> another key to come back in.
>
> You might want to
On 11/14/2023 12:26 PM, Ranjan Maitra via users wrote:
What really irritates me about vi and its friends is that it throws you
out of editing (insert) mode in order to save the file, and needs
another key to come back in.
You might want to consider nano; the most common commands are listed at
On Mon Nov13'23 11:41:28AM, George N. White III wrote:
> From: "George N. White III"
> Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2023 11:41:28 -0400
> To: Community support for Fedora users
> Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users
> Subject: Re: emacs is hopeless
>
> On Mon, Nov 13
On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 9:04 AM Ranjan Maitra via users <
users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> [...]
> I also tried emacs-nox and have the same problem. Removing my .emacs did
> not have any effect.
>
I do not mess with my system files so I am a bit confused as to how to
> track this down. Is
On Mon Nov13'23 07:55:04AM, Neal Becker wrote:
> From: Neal Becker
> Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2023 07:55:04 -0500
> To: Community support for Fedora users
> Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users
> Subject: Re: emacs is hopeless
>
> On Sun, Nov 12, 2023 at 12:17 PM Tom Ho
On Sun, Nov 12, 2023 at 12:17 PM Tom Horsley wrote:
> I reported strange things with emacs earlier, but I thought it might be
> something wrong with my partially configured system.
>
> Nope, it is just plain busted. I've added this bug report:
>
>
On Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:50:04 -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> I have not encountered any problems (yet?).
Fedora 39 Workstation installation (so Wayland based), launching Emacs
from GNOME Shell as well as terminals. No problems yet. I apply some
font face customizations in ~/.emacs though.
On Sun, Nov 12, 2023 at 12:17 PM Tom Horsley wrote:
>
> I reported strange things with emacs earlier, but I thought it might be
> something wrong with my partially configured system.
>
> Nope, it is just plain busted. I've added this bug report:
>
>
On Sun Nov12'23 04:12:07PM, George Avrunin wrote:
> From: George Avrunin
> Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2023 16:12:07 -0500
> To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users
> Subject: Re: emacs is hopeless
>
> On 11/12/23 13:19, Ranjan Maitra via use
On 11/12/23 13:19, Ranjan Maitra via users wrote:
> Thank you for this: downgrading emacs for me to 28.3 (F38) gets rid of
> the problem that I was having, and that is, that emacs 29.1 can not load
> a file for me (without emacs -Q).
>
> With emacs -Q in 29.1 (F39), I can load the file all
On Sun, Nov 12, 2023 at 1:55 PM Tom Horsley wrote:
>
> On Sun, 12 Nov 2023 11:46:21 -0700
> Joe Zeff wrote:
>
> > On 11/12/2023 11:33 AM, Ranjan Maitra via users wrote:
> > > On that mailing list, yes.
> >
> > Don't you think that opening a Bugzilla would be a Good Idea?
>
> I started this thread
On Sun, 12 Nov 2023 11:46:21 -0700
Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 11/12/2023 11:33 AM, Ranjan Maitra via users wrote:
> > On that mailing list, yes.
>
> Don't you think that opening a Bugzilla would be a Good Idea?
I started this thread with a mention of this bugzilla:
On 11/12/2023 11:33 AM, Ranjan Maitra via users wrote:
On that mailing list, yes.
Don't you think that opening a Bugzilla would be a Good Idea?
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On Sun Nov12'23 11:22:07AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> From: Joe Zeff
> Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2023 11:22:07 -0700
> To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users
> Subject: Re: emacs is hopeless
>
> On 11/12/2023 11:19 AM, Ranjan Maitra via users wr
On 11/12/2023 11:19 AM, Ranjan Maitra via users wrote:
I wonder why emacs users have not reported my issue with 29.1 on the emacs
mailing list.
Have you reported it?
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On Sun Nov12'23 07:04:36PM, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote:
> From: francis.montag...@inria.fr
> Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2023 19:04:36 +0100
> To: Community support for Fedora users
> Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users
> Subject: Re: emacs is hopeless
>
> Hi
>
>
Hi
On Sun, 12 Nov 2023 12:17:04 -0500 Tom Horsley wrote:
> I reported strange things with emacs earlier, but I thought it might be
> something wrong with my partially configured system.
> Nope, it is just plain busted. I've added this bug report:
>
I reported strange things with emacs earlier, but I thought it might be
something wrong with my partially configured system.
Nope, it is just plain busted. I've added this bug report:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2249379
I guess I'll have to try building from the fedora 38 source
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