RE: "fans seems to work fine" & "It's not enough that they spin"...

2011-09-27 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 09:42 +0200, j.witvl...@mindef.nl wrote: > I think (..) he meant, a larger fan produces less noise than a smaller > one, and one larger fan produces more air-flow than several smaller > ones. A dead CPU fan, in a case with several fans, can be a single point of failure. So t

Re: "fans seems to work fine" & "It's not enough that they spin".. Try building your own water cooling from junk...

2011-09-27 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 16:38 -0700, Linda McLeod wrote: > "Liquid cooled"..? > > Umm?.. thin 1/4" soft copper pipe wrapped around hot things like how > a still is made, but not touching anything.. Heatsinks with a coolant pumped through them to external radiators. Essentially the same sort of th

Re: "fans seems to work fine" & "It's not enough that they spin"...

2011-09-27 Thread Tim
Tim: >> But it's not just*a* fan, you have PSU fans, CPU fans, and sometimes a >> case fan. A box with one large fan ducted to all the other heatsinks >> makes things a lot quieter, and more reliable. Joe Zeff: > I don't know about anybody else on this list, but that suggestion makes > the word

RE: "fans seems to work fine" & "It's not enough that they spin"...

2011-09-27 Thread J.Witvliet
-Original Message- From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Joe Zeff Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 8:31 PM To: Community support for Fedora users Subject: Re: "fans seems to work fine" & "It's n

Re: "fans seems to work fine" & "It's not enough that they spin".. Try building your own water cooling from junk...

2011-09-26 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/26/2011 04:38 PM, Linda McLeod wrote: > What if someone built a tower in a cylinder shape..? There's a company that specializes in doing exactly that, but I think you'll find their products to be a tad pricy: Cray. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or chang

Re: "fans seems to work fine" & "It's not enough that they spin".. Try building your own water cooling from junk...

2011-09-26 Thread Linda McLeod
Re: "fans seems to work fine" & "It's not enough that they spin"... "I've not really wanted to get into the expense of trying a liquid cooled system. But the idea of a silent system, one using heatpipes and massive heatsinks appeals to me, because I miss

Re: "fans seems to work fine" & "It's not enough that they spin"...

2011-09-26 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/26/2011 03:28 AM, Tim wrote: > But it's not just*a* fan, you have PSU fans, CPU fans, and sometimes a > case fan. A box with one large fan ducted to all the other heatsinks > makes things a lot quieter, and more reliable. I don't know about anybody else on this list, but that suggestion ma

Re: "fans seems to work fine" & "It's not enough that they spin"...

2011-09-26 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2011-09-25 at 10:08 -0700, Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: > 32-bit ARM or PowerPC systems don't need fans. If you want a quiet > computer, buy an old PowerPC Mac used and run a PowerPC Linux distro > on it. Doesn't Fedora support PowerPC? I'm not in a position to get yet another compute

Re: "fans seems to work fine" & "It's not enough that they spin"...

2011-09-26 Thread Tim
Joe Zeff: > A friend of mine suggests leaving an empty slot between each two cards > whenever possible for better ventilation. That can help, though you can't do that with some PC, because of how the IRQs are shared between slots, and motherboard hardware (you may need to put certain cards in cer

Re: "fans seems to work fine" & "It's not enough that they spin"...

2011-09-25 Thread Don Quixote de la Mancha
32-bit ARM or PowerPC systems don't need fans. If you want a quiet computer, buy an old PowerPC Mac used and run a PowerPC Linux distro on it. Doesn't Fedora support PowerPC? However 64-bit PowerPC requires fans that sound like jet engines. I don't think there are 64-bit ARMs yet but I understa

Re: "fans seems to work fine" & "It's not enough that they spin"...

2011-09-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/25/2011 09:47 AM, Tim wrote: > It needs forced cooling, yet uses a technique that is prone to failure, > and requires maintenance by unskilled owners. A friend of mine suggests leaving an empty slot between each two cards whenever possible for better ventilation. -- users mailing list user

Re: "fans seems to work fine" & "It's not enough that they spin"...

2011-09-25 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2011-09-24 at 13:12 -0700, Linda McLeod wrote: > If the tower is set near a hot air vent, the fans will pull-in heat, > and heat what they're supposed to be cooling... Or, even just in a location with poor circulation... Warm air already in the room, and the computer's exhaust sucked back

Re: "fans seems to work fine" & "It's not enough that they spin"...

2011-09-24 Thread Linda McLeod
Re: strange behaviour of my desktop "yes, fans seems to work fine..." "I'll add the obvious: It's not enough that they spin, there has to be airflow through the heatsink that the fans blow across, and throughout the cabinet. Also, heatsinks need to make good physical contact with what they're