Re: wireless mouse dies

2017-10-08 Thread Tim
Joe Zeff: > Indeed. At one point, I was doing senior tech support for an > ISP. One day I got a call from a customer who was having connection > issues with his ADSL, and the description made it sound like line > noise. After asking some questions, I learned that the cable from > the phone

Re: wireless mouse dies

2017-10-08 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 7 October 2017, George N. White III sent: > Don't ignore battery terminals, and don't use abrasives (which many > erasers contain), as they will damage metal plating. At one time, > carbon tetrachloride was used for cleaning contacts. These days > there are much safer

Re: wireless mouse dies

2017-10-07 Thread George N. White III
On 7 October 2017 at 16:59, fred roller wrote: > You mentioned having this mouse for awhile. Used to have similar issues > and something to try (low tech) is to clean the connections. An eraser or > equivalent will do if you can get to the connectors on the dongle. >

Re: wireless mouse dies

2017-10-07 Thread fred roller
You mentioned having this mouse for awhile. Used to have similar issues and something to try (low tech) is to clean the connections. An eraser or equivalent will do if you can get to the connectors on the dongle. Sometimes the connections get a micro build up on them and a mild non-residual

Re: wireless mouse dies

2017-10-07 Thread antonio montagnani
Joe Zeff ha scritto il 07/10/2017 alle 00:05: On 10/06/2017 02:54 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: Yeah. As a hardware engineer that has, over many years, transitioned to a software engineer, I always assume my software is buggy. I can't believe how often it turns out it's hardware like a bad cable or

Re: wireless mouse dies

2017-10-06 Thread Rick Stevens
On 10/06/2017 04:46 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 10/06/2017 04:18 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: >> In my experience, hardware deliberately waits till >> the worst possible time to break. For instance: You've >> just loaded a new operating system, and suddenly >> nothing works right. Because the hardware

Re: wireless mouse dies

2017-10-06 Thread Rick Stevens
On 10/06/2017 04:18 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > In my experience, hardware deliberately waits till > the worst possible time to break. For instance: You've > just loaded a new operating system, and suddenly > nothing works right. Because the hardware knows > you'll be sure the new OS is the problem,

Re: wireless mouse dies

2017-10-06 Thread Tom Horsley
In my experience, hardware deliberately waits till the worst possible time to break. For instance: You've just loaded a new operating system, and suddenly nothing works right. Because the hardware knows you'll be sure the new OS is the problem, it chooses that precise moment to break. I have seen

Re: wireless mouse dies

2017-10-06 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/06/2017 03:26 PM, George N. White III wrote: Cables and connections were always a problem area for hardware; now we need to think about whether problems are due to RF "interference", which could be a too strong RF signal from some other device, or poorly designed hardware that is not

Re: wireless mouse dies

2017-10-06 Thread George N. White III
On 6 October 2017 at 17:23, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 10/06/2017 12:54 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: > >> >> He sent me the log directly and I've included the relevant lines below. >> It definitely looks like a hardware problem. It keeps disconnecting, >> maybe some connection inside is

Re: wireless mouse dies

2017-10-06 Thread Rick Stevens
On 10/06/2017 03:05 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 10/06/2017 02:54 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: >> Yeah. As a hardware engineer that has, over many years, transitioned to >> a software engineer, I always assume my software is buggy. I can't >> believe how often it turns out it's hardware like a bad cable or

Re: wireless mouse dies

2017-10-06 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/06/2017 02:54 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: Yeah. As a hardware engineer that has, over many years, transitioned to a software engineer, I always assume my software is buggy. I can't believe how often it turns out it's hardware like a bad cable or something. My rule of thumb is "If it always

Re: wireless mouse dies

2017-10-06 Thread Rick Stevens
On 10/06/2017 01:23 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 10/06/2017 12:54 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: >> >> He sent me the log directly and I've included the relevant lines below. >> It definitely looks like a hardware problem.  It keeps disconnecting, >> maybe some connection inside is loose. > > I wouldn't be

Re: wireless mouse dies

2017-10-06 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/06/2017 12:54 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: He sent me the log directly and I've included the relevant lines below. It definitely looks like a hardware problem.  It keeps disconnecting, maybe some connection inside is loose. I wouldn't be surprised. I can remember, back in the '80s, when

Re: wireless mouse dies

2017-10-06 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/05/2017 02:09 PM, Antonio M wrote: I have the log (tnx for help anyway) from 20:00:00 and forward: but the full log is 225 lines and I suppose that I cannot load here.. He sent me the log directly and I've included the relevant lines below. It definitely looks like a hardware problem.

Re: wireless mouse dies

2017-10-06 Thread murph
I had similar sounding problems with a bluetooth mouse, turns out that the power management was shutting it down. Take a look at tlp or powertop if you are using them, and see if you can put a powerdown exception for your dongle. On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 3:12 PM, Antonio M

Re: wireless mouse dies

2017-10-05 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2017-10-05 at 22:00 +0200, Antonio M wrote: > battery is new . Anyway for a long time I had no issue with this port and > it started short ago after upgrading recent kernels. > > No idea how to debug it. (this port is the high-power port, but it should > not matter). And this issue is

Re: wireless mouse dies

2017-10-05 Thread Fred Smith
On Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 10:00:25PM +0200, Antonio M wrote: >battery is new . Anyway for a long time I had no issue with this port >and it started short ago after upgrading recent kernels. >No idea how to debug it. (this port is the high-power port, but it >should not matter). And

Re: wireless mouse dies

2017-10-05 Thread Antonio M
I have the log (tnx for help anyway) from 20:00:00 and forward: but the full log is 225 lines and I suppose that I cannot load here.. Antonio Montagnani Linux Fedora 26(Workstation) inviato da Gmail 2017-10-05 22:58 GMT+02:00 Samuel Sieb : > On 10/05/2017 01:45 PM, Antonio M

Re: wireless mouse dies

2017-10-05 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/05/2017 01:45 PM, Antonio M wrote: how can I check it ?? especially after the mouse is working again? sorry for the silly question As root, run "journalctl -b". If you remember about what time it happened, you can scroll down until you find that time. By default it uses "less" as the

Re: wireless mouse dies

2017-10-05 Thread Antonio M
how can I check it ?? especially after the mouse is working again? sorry for the silly question Antonio Montagnani Linux Fedora 26(Workstation) inviato da Gmail 2017-10-05 21:55 GMT+02:00 Samuel Sieb : > On 10/05/2017 12:12 PM, Antonio M wrote: > >> sometimes I loos the

Re: wireless mouse dies

2017-10-05 Thread Antonio M
battery is new . Anyway for a long time I had no issue with this port and it started short ago after upgrading recent kernels. No idea how to debug it. (this port is the high-power port, but it should not matter). And this issue is really random, I worked one day with no issue, but tonight I had

Re: wireless mouse dies

2017-10-05 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/05/2017 12:12 PM, Antonio M wrote: sometimes I loos the control of a wireless mouse from Logitech: as soon as I reinsert the receiver mouse starts again to work!!! when mouse is dead $ lsusb Bus 002 Device 004: ID 8087:07da Intel Corp. Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp.

Re: wireless mouse dies

2017-10-05 Thread Terry Polzin
On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 3:12 PM, Antonio M wrote: > sometimes I loos the control of a wireless mouse from Logitech: as soon as > I reinsert the receiver mouse starts again to work!!! > > when mouse is dead > $ lsusb > Bus 002 Device 004: ID 8087:07da Intel Corp. >

wireless mouse dies

2017-10-05 Thread Antonio M
sometimes I loos the control of a wireless mouse from Logitech: as soon as I reinsert the receiver mouse starts again to work!!! when mouse is dead $ lsusb Bus 002 Device 004: ID 8087:07da Intel Corp. Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID