Re: message/rfc822 to mbox script for use with sa-learn workflow

2017-08-15 Thread Jesse Norell
On Tue, 2017-08-15 at 16:48 -0700, Scott wrote: > > >An idea for an alternate collection method: run an imap server on > your > >sa-learn training box, setup a second email account in Outlook for > the > >users who are training, and have them just drag the ham/spam to > training > >folders.

RE: message/rfc822 to mbox script for use with sa-learn workflow

2017-08-15 Thread Scott
>An idea for an alternate collection method:  run an imap server on your >sa-learn training box, setup a second email account in Outlook for the >users who are training, and have them just drag the ham/spam to training >folders.  I don't know if it's "better," but I'd prefer it myself to

Re: message/rfc822 to mbox script for use with sa-learn workflow

2017-08-15 Thread Jesse Norell
On Tue, 2017-08-15 at 07:55 -0700, Scott wrote: > I need a way to go from Outlook to train SA if I'm to train at all. > FOr > most of my users the inbound mail is handed off to a 3rd party > Exchange > server that I don't have access to. So setting up a public IMAP > folder on > the exchange

Re: message/rfc822 to mbox script for use with sa-learn workflow

2017-08-15 Thread Scott
tried: #!/bin/bash FILES=/home/mail/msg-1502747659-31280-0/* echo "" > /home/mail/test/out for f in $FILES do echo "Processing $f file..." # take action on each file. $f store current file name cat $f|formail >> /home/mail/test.out done Almost worked. It adds the needed "From" header and

Re: Operators Blacklist Survey

2017-08-15 Thread David Jones
On 08/15/2017 12:46 PM, Shivram Krishnan wrote: Thanks for the response Dianne. Rule-based systems like spamassassin make room for false positives from any one of the rules. For instance , a blacklist can have a false positive, but there may be other rules which may not agree with the

Re: Operators Blacklist Survey

2017-08-15 Thread Dianne Skoll
On Tue, 15 Aug 2017 12:46:59 -0500 Shivram Krishnan wrote: > Rule-based systems like spamassassin make room for false positives > from any one of the rules. For instance , a blacklist can have a > false positive, but there may be other rules which may not agree with > the

Re: Operators Blacklist Survey

2017-08-15 Thread Shivram Krishnan
Thanks for the response Dianne. Rule-based systems like spamassassin make room for false positives from any one of the rules. For instance , a blacklist can have a false positive, but there may be other rules which may not agree with the blacklist. An ensemble of such rules allows make

Re: Operators Blacklist Survey

2017-08-15 Thread Rupert Gallagher
Companies with an MBA director who happened to read the "blacklist" buzzword somewhere and think they will look good by using it themselves. Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 7:02 PM, Shivram Krishnan wrote: > Thanks for the response Bill. I have got a

Re: Operators Blacklist Survey

2017-08-15 Thread Dianne Skoll
On Tue, 15 Aug 2017 12:02:23 -0500 Shivram Krishnan wrote: > Thanks for the response Bill. I have got a couple of responses from > this group, which agree with what you are saying - they have their > own custom techniques to prevent spam and reduce false positives. If >

Re: Operators Blacklist Survey

2017-08-15 Thread Shivram Krishnan
Thanks for the response Bill. I have got a couple of responses from this group, which agree with what you are saying - they have their own custom techniques to prevent spam and reduce false positives. If thats the case, who uses third-party generated blacklists? On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 11:01 PM,

Re: message/rfc822 to mbox script for use with sa-learn workflow

2017-08-15 Thread Scott
>It should be OK, but it wouldn't be ideal to combine it with=20 >autotraining because the manual training wont be able to counter any=20 >mistraining of the tokens from the stripped headers.=20 > It would probably be a good idea to use a comprehensive ignoreheader=20 > list. You could start with

Re: message/rfc822 to mbox script for use with sa-learn workflow

2017-08-15 Thread RW
On Tue, 15 Aug 2017 07:55:39 -0700 (MST) Scott wrote: > Hmmm. Doesn't sound good. I sent a simple text message through a > large ISP, to my server, arrived in a mbox. Compared that message to > the one that was POPed, then sent back as an attachment and stripped > out via the existing script.

Re: message/rfc822 to mbox script for use with sa-learn workflow

2017-08-15 Thread Scott
Hmmm. Doesn't sound good. I sent a simple text message through a large ISP, to my server, arrived in a mbox. Compared that message to the one that was POPed, then sent back as an attachment and stripped out via the existing script. These sanitized messages are pretty short but I put in

Re: TxRep can't use SQLBasedAddrList factory module

2017-08-15 Thread David B Funk
On Tue, 15 Aug 2017, Christopher Engelhard wrote: On 08/14/2017 05:24 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: does mysql -u -p localhost spamdb work? Yes, that works. The user has INSERT, DELETE, UPDATE, SELECT privileges. Does it need CREATE? The table 'txrep' exists with columns username, email, ip,

Re: TxRep can't use SQLBasedAddrList factory module

2017-08-15 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 8/15/2017 9:22 AM, Christopher Engelhard wrote: On 08/14/2017 05:24 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: does mysql -u -p localhost spamdb work? Yes, that works. The user has INSERT, DELETE, UPDATE, SELECT privileges. Does it need CREATE? The table 'txrep' exists with columns username, email, ip,

Re: TxRep can't use SQLBasedAddrList factory module

2017-08-15 Thread Christopher Engelhard
On 08/14/2017 05:24 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > does mysql -u -p localhost spamdb work? Yes, that works. The user has INSERT, DELETE, UPDATE, SELECT privileges. Does it need CREATE? The table 'txrep' exists with columns username, email, ip, count, totscore, signedby. The Bayes-related tables

Re: message/rfc822 to mbox script for use with sa-learn workflow

2017-08-15 Thread RW
On Tue, 15 Aug 2017 14:11:14 +0200 Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > On 14.08.17 21:34, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > >On 2017-08-14 20:08, Scott wrote: > > > >> I would like to turn around and put those individual messages back > >> into mbox format, again, without changing their original headers. >

Re: message/rfc822 to mbox script for use with sa-learn workflow

2017-08-15 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 14.08.17 21:34, Ian Zimmerman wrote: On 2017-08-14 20:08, Scott wrote: I would like to turn around and put those individual messages back into mbox format, again, without changing their original headers. The first question is: why? sa-learn works on just about any format: individual

Re: message/rfc822 to mbox script for use with sa-learn workflow

2017-08-15 Thread RW
On Mon, 14 Aug 2017 20:08:46 -0700 (MST) Scott wrote: > I would like to turn around and put those individual messages back > into mbox format, again, without changing their original headers. > Anyone have a script or a method which will accomplish that? I tried > to figure out how to do it but

Re: spamcannibal info

2017-08-15 Thread Heinrich Boeder
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hey Alex,   Am 2017-08-06 21:42, Alex schrieb: > > Hi all, does anyone know what happened to spamcannibal? > I was wondering, too. I noticed a lot of timeouts on our Nameserver regarding spamcannibal. Anybody an idea what

Re: message/rfc822 to mbox script for use with sa-learn workflow

2017-08-15 Thread Merijn van den Kroonenberg
> I have a script that can take spam/ham messages forwarded as attachments > from > Outlook and turn them into rfc822 individual files. It allows external > users to send me Outlook spam/ham for review. I will in turn feed > sa-learn > with those messages once vetted. That part of the process

Re: Operators Blacklist Survey

2017-08-15 Thread Rupert Gallagher
Re. 1: undisclosed Re. 2: null Re. 3: not applicable Re. 4: not applicable We do not use external blacklists to filter spam. We use own method, with a ham/spam ratio of 98/02. Spam is not delivered: we reject it upfront. Our business clients are very happy. No, we are not protonmail.