Re: Score 0.001

2024-05-10 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 5/10/2024 2:57 AM, Thomas Barth wrote: Am 2024-05-10 06:19, schrieb Reindl Harald (privat): Am 10.05.24 um 00:05 schrieb Thomas Barth: Am 2024-05-09 21:41, schrieb Loren Wilton: Low-score tests are neither spam nor ham signs by themselves. They can be used in metas in conjunction with

Re: Score 0.001

2024-05-10 Thread Bill Cole
On 2024-05-10 at 14:15:56 UTC-0400 (Fri, 10 May 2024 14:15:56 -0400) Bill Cole is rumored to have said: > On 2024-05-09 at 18:19:14 UTC-0400 (Thu, 9 May 2024 15:19:14 -0700) > jdow > is rumored to have said: > >> On 20240509 15:05:46, Thomas Barth wrote: >>> Am 2024-05-09 21:41, schrieb Loren

Fwd: Re: Rule: "1.0 R_DCD 90% of .com. is spam"

2024-05-10 Thread Benny Pedersen
oh dear, when do he stop ? Original besked Emne: Re: Rule: "1.0 R_DCD 90% of .com. is spam" Dato: 2024-05-10 20:17 Afsender: "Reindl Harald (gmail)" Modtager: Benny Pedersen Am 10.05.24 um 20:14 schrieb Benny Pedersen: Matus UHLAR - fantomas skrev den 2024-05-10 18:46: On

Re: Score 0.001

2024-05-10 Thread Bill Cole
On 2024-05-10 at 11:00:45 UTC-0400 (Fri, 10 May 2024 08:00:45 -0700 (PDT)) John Hardin is rumored to have said: > Note that poorly-performing rules may get a score that looks informational, > but that may change over time based on the corpora. IOW: rules that in themselves are not good enough

Re: Score 0.001

2024-05-10 Thread Bill Cole
On 2024-05-09 at 18:19:14 UTC-0400 (Thu, 9 May 2024 15:19:14 -0700) jdow is rumored to have said: > On 20240509 15:05:46, Thomas Barth wrote: >> Am 2024-05-09 21:41, schrieb Loren Wilton: >>> Low-score tests are neither spam nor ham signs by themselves. They can be >>> used in metas in

Re: Rule: "1.0 R_DCD 90% of .com. is spam"

2024-05-10 Thread Benny Pedersen
Matus UHLAR - fantomas skrev den 2024-05-10 18:46: On 10.05.24 15:36, Rupert Gallagher wrote: The ikea mail was received through ... mta-numbers.ikea.com.sparkpostmail.com and is a request for feedback. The SA rule says ... header R_DCD Received =~ /\.com\./ I still do not know where the

Re: Rule: "1.0 R_DCD 90% of .com. is spam"

2024-05-10 Thread Bill Cole
On 2024-05-10 at 11:08:53 UTC-0400 (Fri, 10 May 2024 15:08:53 +) Rupert Gallagher is rumored to have said: > R_DCD That string does not occur anywhere in the SpamAssassin distribution, neither in the code nor in the rules, *including* the rules that are not currently performing well

Re: Whitelist rules should never pass on SPF fail

2024-05-10 Thread Bill Cole
On 2024-05-09 at 17:21:07 UTC-0400 (Fri, 10 May 2024 07:21:07 +1000) Noel Butler is rumored to have said: > So what? domain owners state hard fail it SHOULD be hard failed, irrespective > of if YOU think you know better than THEM or not, if we hardfail we accept > the risks that come with it.

Re: Rule: "1.0 R_DCD 90% of .com. is spam"

2024-05-10 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 10.05.24 15:36, Rupert Gallagher wrote: The ikea mail was received through ... mta-numbers.ikea.com.sparkpostmail.com and is a request for feedback. The SA rule says ... header R_DCD Received =~ /\.com\./ I still do not know where the rule comes from, DCD may actually mean dot-com-dot,

Re: Rule: "1.0 R_DCD 90% of .com. is spam"

2024-05-10 Thread Rupert Gallagher
Ahhh The ikea mail was received through ... mta-numbers.ikea.com.sparkpostmail.com and is a request for feedback. The SA rule says ... header R_DCD Received =~ /\.com\./ I still do not know where the rule comes from, DCD may actually mean dot-com-dot, and perhaps it is true that they are

Re: Rule: "1.0 R_DCD 90% of .com. is spam"

2024-05-10 Thread Rupert Gallagher
I only have stock and KAM, and it is definitely not a custom rule of mine. Original Message On May 10, 2024, 17:11, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > On 10.05.24 15:08, Rupert Gallagher wrote: >My local evidence does not > support the general claim that 90% of .com is spam. > >I

Re: Rule: "1.0 R_DCD 90% of .com. is spam"

2024-05-10 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 10.05.24 15:08, Rupert Gallagher wrote: My local evidence does not support the general claim that 90% of .com is spam. I just received a mail from informat...@info.email.ikea.com marked as spam, with positive R_DCD. The rule did not trigger on mail from other .com addresses. I do not know

Rule: "1.0 R_DCD 90% of .com. is spam"

2024-05-10 Thread Rupert Gallagher
My local evidence does not support the general claim that 90% of .com is spam. I just received a mail from informat...@info.email.ikea.com marked as spam, with positive R_DCD. The rule did not trigger on mail from other .com addresses. I do not know what R_DCD means, and search indexes do not

Re: Score 0.001

2024-05-10 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 10 May 2024, Thomas Barth wrote: So now I repeat my question: is it possible to increase the minimum value to 0.1 by default? Not really. The score for a rule is either a fixed value assigned by the rule developer or a dynamic value calculated by masscheck nightly. There isn't a

Re: Score 0.001

2024-05-10 Thread jdow
On 20240509 23:57:12, Thomas Barth wrote: Am 2024-05-10 06:19, schrieb Reindl Harald (privat): Am 10.05.24 um 00:05 schrieb Thomas Barth: Am 2024-05-09 21:41, schrieb Loren Wilton: Low-score tests are neither spam nor ham signs by themselves. They can be used in metas in conjunction with

Re: Score 0.001

2024-05-10 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 09.05.24 20:41, Thomas Barth wrote: I don't understand why there are so many checks where the meaningless value of 0.001 is assigned. Those rules may be tested in the present. They also may be informative, e.g. DMARC_MISSING or SPF_PASS rules with score 0 are not used so using 0 is not

Re: Score 0.001

2024-05-10 Thread Thomas Barth
Am 2024-05-10 06:19, schrieb Reindl Harald (privat): Am 10.05.24 um 00:05 schrieb Thomas Barth: Am 2024-05-09 21:41, schrieb Loren Wilton: Low-score tests are neither spam nor ham signs by themselves. They can be used in metas in conjunction with other indicators to help determine ham or