RE: [videoblogging] Re: Flash Video question for Actionscripters

2006-06-02 Thread Will Law
Josh 1. There is no magic workaround. If the duration is missing from the metadata of an FLV, then your only options are a) inject it yourself b) use FMS to query the file length. You cannot get or even estimatethe duration from the NetStream properties that are exposed, other than by

[videoblogging] Re: Flash Video question for Actionscripters

2006-06-02 Thread Enric
Which is the lowest version of Flash you want to support (7 has several versions, I think the most recent is 7.2)? And how are you loading the FLVs? Is it with NetConnection and NetStream or the Media class? -- Enric -==- http://www.cirne.com http://www.cinegage.com --- In

[videoblogging] Re: Who are you hosting with?

2006-06-02 Thread LeanBackVids.com
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, JADonnelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Streeter bill@ wrote: Dreamhost.com or VizaWeb.com. Dreamhost by a long shot. DH offers over 1,000 GB per month versus the 120 GB max on VizaWeb. Not to mention the cost of

[videoblogging] Jet Set Show - New videoblog for the kid in all of us

2006-06-02 Thread Zadi
Hey all, some of you know I've been working hard on a new videoblog show for the past couple of months... and it's finally up and running! It's a videoblog for kids (and the kid in all of us) with new stuff every Thursdays and Fridays (interviews, d.i.y. workshops, sketches, etc). It's

[videoblogging] One donation to vloggercon needed!

2006-06-02 Thread Brett Gaylor
Okay - I have only a couple of days left, but I only need ONE more donation! Like I said, last donation gets MONTREAL SMOKED MEAT (based on the overwhelming interest).Thanks to everyone who helped, and here is the relevant URLage: http://www.etherworks.ca/archives/2006/05/vloggercon_2006/ for

Re: [videoblogging] One donation to vloggercon needed!

2006-06-02 Thread Andreas Haugstrup
On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 14:50:03 +0200, Brett Gaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay - I have only a couple of days left, but I only need ONE more donation! Like I said, last donation gets MONTREAL SMOKED MEAT (based on the overwhelming interest). Done, where's the meat? :o) In other news:

Re: [videoblogging] pouringdown's new home

2006-06-02 Thread Michael Sullivan
so you moved to Tuvalu? ;-)site looks good.sullOn 6/1/06, pouringdownpix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:after wrestling wordpress to the ground, pouringdown now finds itself in a new home:http://pouringdown.tv/we're still tuning up, but c'mon over and kick the tires a bit.if you're subscribed - do

[videoblogging] Re: One donation to vloggercon needed!

2006-06-02 Thread Susan
Okay... I do believe certain people are supposed to be shaving certain parts of their body now. :D Susan http://vlog.kitykity.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 14:50:03 +0200, Brett Gaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Flash Video question for Actionscripters

2006-06-02 Thread Michael Sullivan
Jeroen (developer of the standard flv player that most of us use) is also working on xspf and rss playlisting support. I have spoken with him a number of times but i am not sure where he is on this task or if he has started it. Not to discourage Joshua of course. Either way, more flv

Re: [videoblogging] Re: One donation to vloggercon needed!

2006-06-02 Thread Jan McLaughlin
Oh, not shaving NOW - in public - for vlogging around the planet. :) Jan -- http://fauxpress.blogspot.com - motion http://blog.urbanartadventures.com - sound http://the-hold.blogspot.com - poetry http://dagnyhemingway.blogspot.com - machinima http://vlogpresskit.blogspot.com - media On Jun

[videoblogging] Re: Who are you hosting with?

2006-06-02 Thread Bill Streeter
The way you edited the replies makes it look like I asked about VizaWeb.com, for the record I never heard of this company. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com,

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Flash Video question for Actionscripters

2006-06-02 Thread bertrand
Hello,I'm using this FLV player by neolao :http://resources.neolao.com/flash/components/player_flv/templates/multi exemple with my settings: http://demo.podesk.com/podesk/index.php?2006/05/29/54-vj-bertranol-zagros There is a lot of nice options, and there is a basic playlist support. It should

Re: [videoblogging] Jet Set Show - New videoblog for the kid in all of us

2006-06-02 Thread leslye penelope
Very cool! That looks like a huge amount of work and it turned out great! Are those kids actors, cause they were really great!What do you use to encode the FLVs with on a Mac and what is the FLV player that you have embedded there? I find creating Flash video intolerably slow on a Mac which is

Re: [videoblogging] Re: One donation to vloggercon needed!

2006-06-02 Thread Brett Gaylor
On 6/2/06, Susan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay... I do believe certain people are supposed to be shaving certainparts of their body now.:D Dear lord - I dont even remember what I promised to shave - but I'm at work, so it will have to wait :) thanks for the help, Susan! see you in SF! b

Re: [videoblogging] One donation to vloggercon needed!

2006-06-02 Thread Brett Gaylor
On 6/2/06, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 14:50:03 +0200, Brett Gaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Okay - I have only a couple of days left, but I only need ONE more donation!Like I said, last donation gets MONTREAL SMOKED MEAT (based on the overwhelming

Re: [videoblogging] Flash Video question for Actionscripters

2006-06-02 Thread Lisa Harper
Does this mean that flash 8 is basically unproblematic with respect to duration and scrubbing? I've just started working flash and flash video and love the flexibility of it. The sad thing is that ffmpeg does not transcode to On2VP6 yet. Lisa http://www.lisaharper.org On 6/1/06, Joshua

[videoblogging] Re: One donation to vloggercon needed!

2006-06-02 Thread Casey McKinnon
Great news, Brett! Congrats... one thing though... be careful with the smoked meat, you may not be able to smuggle it in to the US since it's beef. Casey http://www.galacticast.com/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Brett Gaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/2/06, Andreas Haugstrup

Re: [videoblogging] Re: question for Macbook Pro owners

2006-06-02 Thread Jen Simmons
Why two Firewire 800 ports on the card, instead of just one? Probably simply because the room to fit them both was there and it was just as easy to do two as it was to do one. Plus, sometimes it's just easier / fast to plug a second drive into the computer -- ie: I'm working a group of

[videoblogging] Re: Jet Set Show - New videoblog for the kid in all of us

2006-06-02 Thread Bill Streeter
I dunno what Zadi is using but I use Sorenson Squeeze. I cusomize my own player (Sqeeze comes with FLA source files for several player designs that you can customize if you know Flash) and am currently on my second design, which still requires some tweeking. But you can see it in action on

[videoblogging] Galacticast Vloggercon Promo

2006-06-02 Thread Casey McKinnon
Since it has been common practice over the past few weeks to post Vloggercon Promos here on the group, I thought I'd submit ours: http://www.galacticast.com/2006/06/02/video-vloggercon-promo/ Enjoy! Casey http://www.galacticast.com/ SPONSORED LINKS

Re: [videoblogging] One donation to vloggercon needed!

2006-06-02 Thread Andreas Haugstrup
On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 16:05:55 +0200, Brett Gaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its even better than ROLLAPULSA or however you spell that (my moms a dane) :o) That's pretty close, actually. It's spelled rullepølse, and it's awful. Smoked meat sounds a lot better. :o) On a technical note -

[videoblogging] Re: One donation to vloggercon needed!

2006-06-02 Thread Casey McKinnon
Two more words: Good luck. ;) Casey http://www.galacticast.com/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Brett Gaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/2/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great news, Brett! Congrats... one thing though... be careful with the smoked meat, you may

Re: [videoblogging] Galacticast Vloggercon Promo

2006-06-02 Thread Michael Sullivan
PERFECT!On 6/2/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since it has been common practice over the past few weeks to postVloggercon Promos here on the group, I thought I'd submit ours:http://www.galacticast.com/2006/06/02/video-vloggercon-promo/

Re: [videoblogging] One donation to vloggercon needed!

2006-06-02 Thread Jay dedman
On a technical note - has anyone ever succesfully closed one of these fundable things? I was expecting balloons to fall from the ceiling or something, but so far not an email, no nothing... Not knowing anything about it I imagine the balloons will fall from the sky and money will be

Re: [videoblogging] Click.tv Party?

2006-06-02 Thread Richard (Show) Hall
Paul and others ... check out the wiki ... there's all sorts of info about events and stuff and it's growing wiki.vloggercon.com On 6/1/06, Paul Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Party, what party!!! Am I invited?? Paul On 1 Jun 2006, at 22:20, Markus Sandy wrote: use a 'fake' name?

Re: [videoblogging] Click.tv Party?

2006-06-02 Thread Jan McLaughlin
Furthermore, I've a collaborative project around vlog fashion in the works, so be sure to bring all your best vlogwear to show off. Jan -- http://fauxpress.blogspot.com - motion http://blog.urbanartadventures.com - sound http://the-hold.blogspot.com - poetry

Re: [videoblogging] Galacticast Vloggercon Promo

2006-06-02 Thread Richard (Show) Hall
that was so cool, but I'm trying to figure out where you got the footage from the party at Adam's from vloggercue this summer ... On 6/2/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since it has been common practice over the past few weeks to post Vloggercon Promos here on the group, I

[videoblogging] Free converter that converts .wmv to Quicktime movies?

2006-06-02 Thread pacfolly
I want to switch over to the Quicktime format so people can subscribe in iTunes... I've been looking for a free converter lately but all I can find is shareware. Right now I have Videora iPod converter... but with this the audio ends up all out of sync and the videos turn out horribly.

Re: [videoblogging] Galacticast Vloggercon Promo

2006-06-02 Thread Josh Leo
now that is a promo!sadly, that is pretty much exactly how the conference will be...On 6/2/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PERFECT!On 6/2/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since it has been common practice over the past few weeks to postVloggercon Promos here on the

Re: [videoblogging] Galacticast Vloggercon Promo

2006-06-02 Thread Richard (Show) Hall
sadly ?! ... a conference with zombies ... cool :) ... Richard (the zombie show) ... On 6/2/06, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: now that is a promo! sadly, that is pretty much exactly how the conference will be... On 6/2/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [videoblogging] Galacticast Vloggercon Promo

2006-06-02 Thread Adam Quirk
On 6/2/06, Richard (Show) Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that was so cool, but I'm trying to figure out where you got the footage from the party at Adam's from vloggercue this summer ...That did look eerily like my old stairwell. Damn, I really miss that squalor. SPONSORED

Re: [videoblogging] Galacticast Vloggercon Promo

2006-06-02 Thread Adam Quirk
I just remembered, some of my upstairs neighbor's friends actually filmed a zombie flick in our place before we moved out, so there is footage of actual zombies in my old stairwell floating around somewhere! I came home from work one night and saw a bloody guy sans a left arm drinking a diet

Re: [videoblogging] Free converter that converts .wmv to Quicktime movies?

2006-06-02 Thread Adam Quirk
Free and good, but takes a while to figure out:MediaCoderhttp://mediacoder.sourceforge.net/Not free, but very powerful and much easier:Sorenson Squeeze http://tinyurl.com/qkfsl-- Adam Quirkthepan.orgOn 6/2/06, pacfolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to switch over to the Quicktime format so

[videoblogging] Re: Galacticast Vloggercon Promo

2006-06-02 Thread Casey McKinnon
Now there's a sight! If I had a studio, I'd make a SUPER bloody movie... like Kill Bill meets Return of the Living Dead. That would rock... Casey http://www.galacticast.com/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just remembered, some of my upstairs

[videoblogging] Re: Jet Set Show - New videoblog for the kid in all of us

2006-06-02 Thread Casey McKinnon
I'm really happy for you Zadi, the production quality and effort on this is truly amazing. Best of luck! Casey http://www.galacticast.com/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Zadi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, some of you know I've been working hard on a new videoblog show for the

[videoblogging] Re: Galacticast Vloggercon Promo

2006-06-02 Thread Bill Streeter
Well Josh, you could excersize some self control and not mindlessly chase Casey around with a camera and then the conference won't be so sad for you. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: now that is a

[videoblogging] Re: Galacticast Vloggercon Promo

2006-06-02 Thread Enric
Love it...good work! -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since it has been common practice over the past few weeks to post Vloggercon Promos here on the group, I thought I'd submit ours:

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Galacticast Vloggercon Promo

2006-06-02 Thread Josh Leo
Yeah Ryanne hit me in the head with a shovel a few times in NYC when I chased her around with my camera moaning for brains and vlogs... oh well you live you learnOn 6/2/06, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Well Josh, you could excersize some self control and not mindlessly chase Casey

Re: [videoblogging] Jet Set Show - New videoblog for the kid in all of us

2006-06-02 Thread Ted Tagami
This is awesome Zadi! Very well done.Infinity+1 News!! =)On 6/2/06, Zadi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, some of you know I've been working hard on a new videoblog show for the past couple of months... and it's finally up and running! It's a videoblog for kids (and the kid in all of us)

[videoblogging] Re: Jet Set Show - New videoblog for the kid in all of us

2006-06-02 Thread Enric
Excellent work -- better than many TV shows I've seen for kids. I loved the cats looking out like WTF, while you ran out of your place! - Enric -=- http://www.cirne.com http://www.cinegage.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Zadi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, some of you

[videoblogging] Flash meeting this afternoon

2006-06-02 Thread Paul Knight
Hiya all, To celebrate my birthday today and to discuss all things videoingly good, I have organised a flash meeting due to start in a couple of hours. If anybody fancies joining in, please click on the link and join in. And bring a bottle, it should have a party atmosphere.

Re: [videoblogging] Jet Set Show - New videoblog for the kid in all of us

2006-06-02 Thread Anne Walk
awesome zadi! very good production quality!On 6/2/06, Ted Tagami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is awesome Zadi! Very well done.Infinity+1 News!! =)On 6/2/06, Zadi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, some of you know I've been working hard on a new videoblog show for the past couple of

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Flash Video question for Actionscripters

2006-06-02 Thread Joshua Kinberg
Hey Will, This is great info! Just a couple notes... this is not part of the FireAnt desktop application, but just a small little web app I'm making. I don't have Flash Media Server (seems expensive for a small little side project like this). Re: FLV support in FireAnt, this is definitely

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Flash Video question for Actionscripters

2006-06-02 Thread Joshua Kinberg
Which is the lowest version of Flash you want to support (7 has several versions, I think the most recent is 7.2)? I'd like to support FLV, and that means both Flash 7 and Flash 8 (and Flash 6?? not sure if FLV was part of Flash 6). And how are you loading the FLVs? Is it with

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Flash Video question for Actionscripters

2006-06-02 Thread Joshua Kinberg
Jeroen (developer of the standard flv player that most of us use) is also working on xspf and rss playlisting support. I have spoken with him a number of times but i am not sure where he is on this task or if he has started it. Yes, I'm pretty much combining Jeroen's FLV player and his

Re: [videoblogging] Flash Video question for Actionscripters

2006-06-02 Thread Joshua Kinberg
I've just started working flash and flash video and love the flexibility of it. The sad thing is that ffmpeg does not transcode to On2VP6 yet. Correct, I don't think FFMpeg will be supporting On2VP6. But, you can get the On2 Flix Exporter and run that on your server. Not sure how expensive

[videoblogging] Re: Flash Video question for Actionscripters

2006-06-02 Thread Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which is the lowest version of Flash you want to support (7 has several versions, I think the most recent is 7.2)? I'd like to support FLV, and that means both Flash 7 and Flash 8 (and Flash 6?? not sure if

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Flash Video question for Actionscripters

2006-06-02 Thread Joshua Kinberg
Try downloading a video from YouTube and tell me if that works for you. Use http://keepvid.com to get the FLV from YouTube. -Josh On 6/2/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which is the lowest version of

[videoblogging] The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging

2006-06-02 Thread Shannon Noble
You know,sometimes I look at my own expressions and the content of my work, as well as many others here, and think how shallow and meaningless much of what we do is. We put our own meaning on it as it really has none of it's own. It is all enculturated. We make it up for or own selves to get

[videoblogging] Re: Flash Video question for Actionscripters

2006-06-02 Thread Enric
Nope, it doesn't work with FLVs encoded by YouTube (bottom of http://utilities.cinegage.com/vpip-test-page/ ). However, it works with FLVs encoded by blip.tv (http://www.cirne.com/vlog/2006/04/14/pixars-acquisition-by-disney-509/ ). -- Enric -==- http://www.cirne.com

Re: [videoblogging] The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging

2006-06-02 Thread Jay dedman
sometimes I look at my own expressions and the content of my work, as well as many others here, and think how shallow and meaningless much of what we do is. We put our own meaning on it as it really has none of it's own. It is all enculturated. We make it up for or own selves to get what we

Re: [videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging

2006-06-02 Thread Anne Walk
these are things i think about all of the time. thanks for sharing the thought, shannon.On 6/2/06, Shannon Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bad link. try again.something wacky occured.http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/36871/ On 6/2/06, Shannon Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You

Re: [videoblogging] The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging

2006-06-02 Thread Shannon Noble
it's possible that you miss my point jay.your work is not significant.neither is mine. we add meaning to it by our own right to get what we want. by our own circumstances, we attache meaning and broadcast it. to get what we want from others. response.On 6/2/06, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [videoblogging] The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging

2006-06-02 Thread Michael Sullivan
and think how shallow and meaningless much of what we do iseverything needs context. shallow and meaningless could equate to therapeutic entertainment value to someone on some day.seinfeld andbody?else, it could be a fresh awareness of the fact that the world is 99% bullshit and how frustrating

[videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging

2006-06-02 Thread Casey McKinnon
Well said, Sully. I understand what Shannon is getting at, but after two hours of sleep due to working my ass off filming/editing/compressing, it's just not what I'm interested in hearing about... Casey http://www.galacticast.com/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL

Re: [videoblogging] Re: question for Macbook Pro owners

2006-06-02 Thread André Sala
Has anyone every really compared performance between FW400 800? I have an 800 drive plugged into the 800 port on my G5, and I honestly do not see any better performance than with my other 400 drives. Seems to me there's a bottleneck elsewhere that doesn't let the entire system really take

[videoblogging] Re: Flash Video question for Actionscripters

2006-06-02 Thread Enric
Even after the YouTube video completely loads, the FLV duration is not available from Media.totalTime . -- Enric -==- http://www.cirne.com http://www.cinegage.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nope, it doesn't work with FLVs encoded by YouTube

[videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging

2006-06-02 Thread Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Shannon Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know, sometimes I look at my own expressions and the content of my work, as well as many others here, and think how shallow and meaningless much of what we do is. Fine We put our own meaning on it as it

Rullepølse (was: Re: [videobloggi ng] One donation to vloggercon needed!)

2006-06-02 Thread Charles HOPE
Andreas Haugstrup wrote: On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 16:05:55 +0200, Brett Gaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its even better than ROLLAPULSA or however you spell that (my moms a dane) :o) That's pretty close, actually. It's spelled rulleplse, and it's awful. Smoked meat

Re: [videoblogging] World Cup during Vloggercon

2006-06-02 Thread Charles HOPE
That's true. Now I just need to find a venue that will show it... Deirdre Straughan wrote: Since it's the US team, that game will certainly be broadcast in the US. I imagine the whole thing will be broadcast on some ESPN channel or other. On 6/1/06, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging

2006-06-02 Thread Gena
It is the stories that we tell that are important. It is the attempt of one person trying to convey narrative to another. That has an spiritual value. It can have a base level one too. It doesn't matter if the stories are profound or silly. Meaning changes over time anyway. It is important

Re: [videoblogging] World Cup during Vloggercon

2006-06-02 Thread Jan McLaughlin
I'll keep my eyes peeled, Chas. World Cup or bust. J On Jun 2, 2006, at 4:50 PM, Charles HOPE wrote: That's true.  Now I just need to find a venue that will show it... Deirdre Straughan wrote:Since it's the US team, that game will certainly be broadcast in the US. I imagine the whole thing

[videoblogging] Re: Galacticast Vloggercon Promo

2006-06-02 Thread usadutch2001
Hmmm... promoting to promote the promotion video, I think I can do that too :) Priceless; http://vlogmatic.com/?p=46 blips aka klaas --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since it has been common practice over the past few weeks to post

Re: [videoblogging] The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging

2006-06-02 Thread Shannon Noble
On 6/2/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote everything needs context. nothing NEEDS context.you are putting a priority on that thought right now in order to get attention from this group. i don't intend that as a negative. only as a fact. shallow and meaningless could equate to

[videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging

2006-06-02 Thread Enric
Quite accusatory. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Shannon Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/2/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote everything needs context. nothing NEEDS context. you are putting a priority on that thought right now in order to get

Re: [videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging

2006-06-02 Thread Shannon Noble
prime example.casey steps up to the bat.takes a meaningless swing.does anyone here care about casey's lack of sleep?if so. so what?casey only stepped in to make a point that casey exists. after two hours of sleep.On 6/2/06, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well said, Sully.I understand

Re: [videoblogging] The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging

2006-06-02 Thread Shannon Noble
On 6/2/06, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: adding meaning to things is what humans do. yes. absolutely. do you think it is possible to make media free of interpretation, or subjective meaning?an example:to me, my father's 8mm films hold endless amounts of meaning (I never knew him, and now

Re: [videoblogging] World Cup during Vloggercon

2006-06-02 Thread Brett Gaylor
Personally concerned about the STANLEY CUP PLAYOFFS. Go oilers. BretOn 6/2/06, Jan McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll keep my eyes peeled, Chas. World Cup or bust.JOn Jun 2, 2006, at 4:50 PM, Charles HOPE wrote:That's true. Now I just need to find a venue that will show it...Deirdre

Re: [videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging

2006-06-02 Thread Shannon Noble
On 6/2/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Shannon Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: You know, sometimes I look at my own expressions and the content of my work, as well as many others here, and think how shallow and meaningless much ofwhat we do is.Fineoh

[videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging

2006-06-02 Thread Enric
Question: What does this have to do with videoblogging? I don't see a discussion on technique, method, or related activity. At this point I read Shannon rewording people's meanings to his views and thesis. And denying value to people's work in videoblogging. -- Enric --- In

[videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging

2006-06-02 Thread Enric
You would gain some value in your ideas if you read, thought and responded to critiques. -- Enric -==- http://www.cirne.com http://www.cinegage.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Shannon Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/2/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In

Re: [videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging

2006-06-02 Thread Shannon Noble
why would i need you to validate me about what i think or respond too?this is a try at manipulation by you.whose values are we talking about here?yours?make a list. On 6/2/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You would gain some value in your ideas if you read, thought andresponded to

[videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging

2006-06-02 Thread Enric
You're drawing conclusions that can be supported by text. You are infering the motive of manipulation and making the demand of making a list based on that inference. Such inferences go beyond the limitation of text messages like this -- assumptions are often made about people that go beyond

[videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging

2006-06-02 Thread Enric
You started the conversation with demands and continue in that mode, rather than responding. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Shannon Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/2/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question: What does this have to do with videoblogging? I don't

Re: [videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging

2006-06-02 Thread Jan McLaughlin
Most of the time most humans only want to be seen. It must be difficult to be evolved to the next step where you actually see others. Very lonely and painful indeed. Jan -- http://fauxpress.blogspot.com - motion http://blog.urbanartadventures.com - sound http://the-hold.blogspot.com -

Re: [videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging

2006-06-02 Thread Jan McLaughlin
Ahem - vlog it, gentlemen, ladies. Vlog the shit out of it. If you will be so kind. Jan -- http://fauxpress.blogspot.com - motion http://blog.urbanartadventures.com - sound http://the-hold.blogspot.com - poetry http://dagnyhemingway.blogspot.com - machinima http://vlogpresskit.blogspot.com

Re: [videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging

2006-06-02 Thread Shannon Noble
i demand=ed nada. chump.I made salad. That's all.enric.On 6/3/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:You started the conversation with demands and continue in that mode, rather than responding.-- Enric--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Shannon Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On 6/2/06, Enric

[videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging

2006-06-02 Thread Enric
Though this verbal jousting is somewhat entertaining, I don't think everyone will enjoy it. So I'll stop on here for now. -- Enric -==- http://www.cirne.com http://www.cinegage.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Shannon Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i demand=ed nada.

Re: [videoblogging] The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging

2006-06-02 Thread Anne Walk
hey shannon,i'm a wee bit confused about your thoughts on meaning as meanings are always ascribed and never innate. there is no inherent meaning in anything. 'shallow is a judgement you are ascribing to the meaning. it's also interesting to watch you manipulate with this thread so that you

Re: [videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging

2006-06-02 Thread Shannon Noble
What i should say though is this, and I apologize for not acknowledging you earlier..I have no doubts about what you are saying here. Your thoughts are completely legitimate.I am grateful that you responded to my demands. That unto itself is worth a massive amount of respect. Very much so.

Re: [videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging

2006-06-02 Thread Shannon Noble
Huh. Now I'm confused. You say it's entertaining but no one will enjoy it? Who cares?Do you have a need for entertainment?Is that the purpose of videoblogging too?Too entertain? On 6/3/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Though this verbal jousting is somewhat entertaining, I don't thinkeveryone

Re: [videoblogging] The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging

2006-06-02 Thread Shannon Noble
busted.why is it interesting to you?you are correct on the use of judgement.i'm looking for mistakes from the likes of yourself to find holes in my vernacular.so that i can be more aware of my own mistakes in vlogs to come. thanks for the observations.On 6/3/06, Anne Walk [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [videoblogging] The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging

2006-06-02 Thread Anne Walk
why is it interesting to you?because everything is interesting to me. On 6/2/06, Shannon Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: busted.why is it interesting to you?you are correct on the use of judgement.i'm looking for mistakes from the likes of yourself to find holes in my vernacular.so that i can

[videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging

2006-06-02 Thread Enric
You're welcome Shannon. I actually quite enjoy discussing the nature of values, ethics, objectivity, subjectivity as philosophy. But that is not the endeavor of this group :) Thanks, Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Shannon Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What i should say

[videoblogging] Re: The Shallow Nature of Video Blogging

2006-06-02 Thread Enric
It's time to dance. ; --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Shannon Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Huh. Now I'm confused. You say it's entertaining but no one will enjoy it? Who cares? Do you have a need for entertainment? Is that the purpose of videoblogging too? Too