[videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, rudy.jahchan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a human interaction of breaking contract and at some point needs to be dealt as such. -- Enric Everyone, listen to Enric. He is wise and terrible, like a god. I shall raise a holy army in his name

Re: [videoblogging] www.jeroenwijering.com

2007-01-04 Thread sull
well in the context of the flash players he builds, both xml specs are used specifically for playlists. On 1/3/07, Lucas Gonze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/3/07, sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] sulleleven%40gmail.com wrote: maybe someone linked to your feed in the forums for testing xspf/rss

Re: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread sull
I didnt realize before that the digg was to my blog post. so, i made a more entertaining image to go along with it http://spreadthemedia.org/files/ohmyheavy.jpg ;) night. sull On 1/4/07, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good news, folks. The story has now made the front page of

Re: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
Den 04.01.2007 kl. 08:07 skrev rudy.jahchan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: There is no difference. Copyright is what enables licensing. And since they're linking rather than re-hosting, there is no copyright issue. Incorrect. Copyright states who owns and has the right to make decisions on a piece

[videoblogging] Re: Heavy.com, the NYC-based broadband video firm, has received $12.

2007-01-04 Thread Aldon Hynes
I wrote a fairly long blog entry about this on my blog, http://www.orient-lodge.com/node/2117 Heavy.com and the dangers of social network investing I'm forwarding this on to some investors that I know. For those of you who have had your work improperly placed on heavy.com, can any of you provide

[videoblogging] Re: Heavy.com, the NYC-based broadband video firm, has received $12.

2007-01-04 Thread Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Aldon Hynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wrote a fairly long blog entry about this on my blog, http://www.orient-lodge.com/node/2117 Heavy.com and the dangers of social network investing I'm forwarding this on to some investors that I know. For those of

[videoblogging] Re: Heavy.com, the NYC-based broadband video firm, has received $12.

2007-01-04 Thread Aldon Hynes
And an additional follow up: I went out to Polaris Venture Partners website and found the list of their partners. I sent an email to their three managing general partners, as well as to Bob Metcalfe who is a general partner there as well as a well know name in the internet. Here is what I sent:

[videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread Mark Day
When I described Myheavy.com as privately help I got 'em mixed up with that other Maxim-esque site, Break.com. My bad.

Re: [videoblogging] upcoming Flash features of vPIP

2007-01-04 Thread RANDY MANN
thats averry cool player enric. how can i use that randy On 1/3/07, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've made a custom version of vPIP for a customer, TechnoLawyer. The changes are in the included flash FLV player (cirneViewer.swf): - The flash player is larger, 450x340. - The visual

[videoblogging] Re: www.jeroenwijering.com

2007-01-04 Thread Angus McIntyre
Mike Hudack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... It's not from our use of the flash player. He has some new Flash player versions that can subscribe to RSS feeds, and he likes to demo them. Sounds right. I just used Interarchy to trace the connections made when you play a video off blip.tv.

Re: [videoblogging] upcoming Flash features of vPIP

2007-01-04 Thread CarLBanks
That looks awesome Enric! On 1/4/07, RANDY MANN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thats averry cool player enric. how can i use that randy On 1/3/07, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] enric%40cirne.com wrote: I've made a custom version of vPIP for a customer, TechnoLawyer. The changes are in the

[videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread Heath
Man, I take a break from the web for a night and all hell breaks loose Has anyone heard from Myheavy? Mike, Casey, David anyone? My vids are one there as well and I will need to send an email but are we hearing back, or are they turning a deaf ear? Please let me know and the group as

[videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread David Howell
I havent heard anything back from them yet. Maybe they are looking for their checkbook to send me my $68,000? ha! David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Man, I take a break from the web for a night and all hell breaks

[videoblogging] Sport's Governing Body Pulls the Plug

2007-01-04 Thread Gary Short
Hello guys, I thought I'd share with you the fact that golf's governing body (The Royal Ancient) has put pressure on The Carnoustie Golf Links and has had them remove the vlog of their preparations for The Open 2007. I was wondering if anyone else had had experience of this and if you thought

Re: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread Markus Sandy
i think practicality wins out here Lucas it appears that the divining job was not too tough for them as the videos I indicated to them are now removed. markus On Jan 3, 2007, at 10:03 PM, Lucas Gonze wrote: You refused to identify the vids, asking them to figure out for you what those

Re: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread Ron Watson
Didn't our Republican led government just hamstring our ability to get together to form class action lawsuits? Or was that just for medicine? Ron Watson http://k9disc.blip.tv http://k9disc.com http://pawsitivevybe.com/vlog http://pawsitivevybe.com On Jan 3, 2007, at 10:15 PM, Enric wrote:

Re: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread Peter Van Dijck
There is absolutely no reason not to blog about this whenever it happens. It's not about mobbing for sake of mobbing. This is a legit concern and it should be on the radar of any reputable service in this space. Sull is right. On the contrary, we SHOULD blog about this. First because this

Re: [videoblogging] MyHeavy.com Tinfoil Version...

2007-01-04 Thread Ron Watson
I don't want to be a broken record, and I really hate to admit that I might have tinfoil hats tucked away for easy access, but if I were interested in putting down citizen media, and I had billions of dollars at my disposal, I would create a legal black hole to put folks like Blip out of

Re: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread Peter Van Dijck
I wrote them this: I've found out that you have reposted my videos, violating the license that is clearly shown in each video. Please take down these videos from your site immediately. Don't tell me they were uploaded by a member - they were not. I am contacting my laywers about this case. Peter

Re: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread Ron Watson
They are modifying my video and releasing it under a different license for profit and they are not giving me attribution. Seems pretty cut and dried to me. Ron Watson http://k9disc.blip.tv http://k9disc.com http://pawsitivevybe.com/vlog http://pawsitivevybe.com On Jan 4, 2007, at 1:32 AM,

RE: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread Mike Hudack
[snip] On 1/3/07, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A custom flash player written by online video company MyHeavy.com that overlays their logo, display ads on top prior to rolling and such is clearly different to any observer and the consumer from a browser. Not to the web it

RE: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread Mike Hudack
I just got off the phone with Heavy's CFO and followed up with an e-mail listing specific areas of infringement. I expect to hear from them in the next hour or so, and if I do not I will follow up with another phone call. -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com

RE: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread Mike Hudack
[snip] okay...so they are just pulling in videos from feeds...and overlaying the watermark/videos on top... as Lucas says...yes, video hosting sites like Blip.tv can just redirect... and insert all Blip ads into the old URL... I can do this on a case-by-case basis.

Re: [videoblogging] MyHeavy.com Tinfoil Version...

2007-01-04 Thread Peter Van Dijck
Seems to me that we are doing quite well raising some shit. Don't think that laywers is the only thing a funded company is afraid off. Users raising shit scares them even more. Peter On 1/4/07, Ron Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't want to be a broken record, and I really hate to admit

RE: [videoblogging] MyHeavy.com Tinfoil Version...

2007-01-04 Thread Mike Hudack
It's a really big Internet, and Heavy is much more concerned with the 17 year old boy sitting in front of his computer at 11 PM than they are with you. How much influence do you have over that kid? -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

RE: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread Mike Hudack
The Referer header is unreliable. -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lucas Gonze Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 12:25 AM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding

Re: [videoblogging] Re:Video iPod - keep dialogue open.

2007-01-04 Thread Richard (Show) Hall
thanks for your nice words Bev! ... I'm assuming you get stuff to download and transfer? ... Richard On 1/4/07, Bev Sykes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard (Show) Hall has been very helpful to me. This is basically some wonderful information that he shared: I do everything manually - I

[videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread Heath
thanks for the update Mike, and everyone else so far just one more example of why I love Blip and Mike Heath http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hudack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just got off the phone with Heavy's CFO and followed up with an e-

Re: [videoblogging] why it's important to get angry

2007-01-04 Thread J. Rhett Aultman
When I see a company stealing my video, putting their ads on it, not respecting with attribution or linkbacks, I get angry. I don't think it's because someone is profiting of my work. It's more like, they are *breaking* this new world we are trying to build. They are going against the reason

Re: [videoblogging] MyHeavy.com Tinfoil Version...

2007-01-04 Thread Ron Watson
I agree with both of you. The problem here is, that, like it or not, we have very little clout; a couple hundred thousand hits, hell a couple million, isn't even a drop in the bucket. We are very narrow in our reach. Especially as we tend to not lend our support to the mass markets of

[videoblogging] Re:MyHeavy

2007-01-04 Thread danielmcvicar
I am glad to see this outrage...MyHeavy went too far. There is clearly a cause of action with damages. Is it time for a class action suit? Is there a NY lawyer around? Or perhaps a better way would be for all vloggers in NY to take MyHeavy to small claims court for the maximum. Ten small

RE: [videoblogging] Re:MyHeavy

2007-01-04 Thread Mike Hudack
Litigation is expensive and difficult. I've been on the phone with them, and I'm hopeful that we can resolve this issue with simple communication and without the need for lawyers. That said, if we have to, we'll have our attorneys send them a nastygram. We're not at that point yet, though.

[videoblogging] Quicktime Vulnerability Issues

2007-01-04 Thread Ronen
http://newteevee.com/2007/01/03/vulnerability-discovered-in-apple-quicktime/ Vulnerability Discovered in Apple QuickTimehttp://newteevee.com/2007/01/03/vulnerability-discovered-in-apple-quicktime/ 12 Written by Jackson West http://newteevee.com/author/jackson-west/-Posted Wednesday, January 3,

[videoblogging] re: Embedded player question

2007-01-04 Thread Nerissa \(TheVideoQueen\)
I use Blip.tv combined with http://www.freevideocoding.com to post my videos on various projects. Blip.tv provides free video hosting and tracks views (as Steve pointed out). Blip.tv also provides direct links to the videos. A direct link to your video allows you to use

Re: [videoblogging] why it's important to get angry

2007-01-04 Thread Jay dedman
And since it's earlly days still, I think we HAVE to shout out about this. We have to make a fuzz. We have to sue, if necessary. If not, 100s of other companies will do the same. We have to set the rules, or they will set them, and that won't be good. And that's why it's good to get

[videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread David Howell
Update. It appears that all my videos have been remove from their site. Such a shame too. I was thinking that $68,000 would have made a nice donation to Blip. Sorry Mike. David http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I

[videoblogging] Re: Heavy.com, the NYC-based broadband video firm, has received $12.

2007-01-04 Thread Kent Nichols
I met Bob Metcalfe earlier this year, and I sent him a heads up. -K, askaninja.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Aldon Hynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wrote a fairly long blog entry about this on my blog, http://www.orient-lodge.com/node/2117 Heavy.com and the dangers of social

Re: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread Lucas Gonze
On 1/4/07, Mike Hudack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Referer header is unreliable. Faking the Referer header *would* be a cause worth litigating, but they're not doing that.

RE: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread Mike Hudack
Yup, it looks like they've cleaned their act up. I'm expecting a call from their CEO in a few minutes, so I'm guessing that will be the message he delivers. -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Howell Sent: Thursday,

RE: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread Mike Hudack
Right, but not every user-agent responsibly reports the referer header. In most user-agents it's an option that can be turned off. Many (maybe even most) personal firewalls strip the referer header from outgoing requests. Windows Media Player, iirc, never sends it. -Original

Re: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread Lucas Gonze
On 1/4/07, Mike Hudack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's correct. The problem is that we do want to be picky. We want to allow people to use VPIP to play back videos hosted on blip, but we don't want to allow them to use the MyHeavy player on MyHeavy.com (unless it's the content creator

RE: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread J. Rhett Aultman
Searching their site, I can't actually find any videos that are via Google Video, and I note that the search on Freetime used to turn up a TON of videos other than mine, all of which have disappeared, too. But what do they care? They needed the site to look video-rich to attract users. They've

Re: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread Ryan Ozawa
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Did the site break, or did they just clear out a chunk of their collection? An hour ago I found my videos in there, along with several others, simply by searching for 'hawaii.' Now, there's only one result. Ryan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-

[videoblogging] Re: Embedded player question

2007-01-04 Thread Mark Westin
I use blip already and crosspost to my other blog sites from there. I think it works great. I know they track views but, the issue I'm working on is getting credit for the traffic. Because in starting to launch my next site I've met various sponsor/advertising types and they all tell me that in

Re: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread Jay dedman
This is a case for Brainstorming. For example, what's wrong with a tool which allows each user to define a whitelist and blacklist? If that were doable it would be a wonderful competitive advantage for Blip. If I worked there I would propose that Blip be the first video hosting

[videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread Enric
Yes, my search for cirne came up empty. Looks like they removed both my blip.tv and Google Video entries. Yes! This is a human problem of disregarding a license. And the human responses have been clear, specific to the problem and resolved quickly. The interactions with Veoh and Heavy with

Re: [videoblogging] Sport's Governing Body Pulls the Plug

2007-01-04 Thread Jay dedman
I thought I'd share with you the fact that golf's governing body (The Royal Ancient) has put pressure on The Carnoustie Golf Links and has had them remove the vlog of their preparations for The Open 2007. I was wondering if anyone else had had experience of this and if you thought we

[videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread Bill Cammack
Posted to Casey's digg: http://digg.com/tech_news/MyHeavy_Stealing_Works_Without_Permission#c4564127 or http://tinyurl.com/vpfdx == by HeavyCarson Hey guys – we've taken the search and play functionality from Blip and Google down. After reading these comments and posts it's clear

[videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread Steve Watkins
They've just posted a comment about this on digg. Seems to be the 'we're a search engine' pseudo-justification. Someone please remind them of what happened to google image search! And argh, the old attempts to cling to an opt-out model when they relaunch their 'search facility'. Heres link to

Re: [videoblogging] Re:MyHeavy

2007-01-04 Thread Paul Knight
Well, mine has disappeared from Heavy, I did send them an e-mail, but they didn't get back to me. Thanks again, Mike, ever thought of running for President or at least Mayor of New York?? Paul Knight On 4 Jan 2007, at 16:23, Mike Hudack wrote: Litigation is expensive and difficult. I've

[videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread Enric
There's a message on the digg entry about this, http://tinyurl.com/yd349m , apparently from someone who works at Heavy: === Hey guys – we've taken the search and play functionality from Blip and Google down. After reading these comments and posts it's clear that we need to clarify

[videoblogging] CALL TO ARMS! was Re:MyHeavy

2007-01-04 Thread schlomo rabinowitz
I agree with you Mike that Litigation is expensive and difficult, but honestly, heavy.com can afford to pay for back revenues they have generated. That's all I want. In Web2.0 Land, part of the money-making scheme is having users populate a site with content to make the site valuable. We have

RE: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread Mike Hudack
This is a case for Brainstorming. For example, what's wrong with a tool which allows each user to define a whitelist and blacklist? If that were doable it would be a wonderful competitive advantage for Blip. If I worked there I would propose that Blip be the first video

RE: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread Mike Hudack
They have disabled their aggregation functionality entirely for the time being. I just got off the phone with their CEO, who was very contrite. We'll be meeting with them next week to figure out how to do this right, and allow people to opt in and out from blip using MediaRSS. -Original

[videoblogging] Re: upcoming Flash features of vPIP

2007-01-04 Thread Enric
Thanks Carl! --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, CarLBanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That looks awesome Enric! On 1/4/07, RANDY MANN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thats averry cool player enric. how can i use that randy On 1/3/07, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] enric%40cirne.com

[videoblogging] Re: upcoming Flash features of vPIP

2007-01-04 Thread Enric
I should have it available within two to three weeks (or earlier) on my vpip site. I'll put a post up here when it's ready. First I want to make the vPIP code more modular and object oriented so it can be more easily extended. -- Enric --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, RANDY MANN [EMAIL

Re: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread ryanne hodson
looks like any blip related search yields nothing but some videos still exist like from direct links: *http://tinyurl.com/y54hcd* maybe they're just in the process of fixing this all but the search seems purged On 1/4/07, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a case for

[videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread Steve Watkins
On a related note, how can 3rd parties go about accessing the creative commons or copyright licence attached to blip.tv videos? Im afraid I havent studied this to see what blip already does, is the cc stuff included in the blip RSS feed, or through an API if you offer one? And thanks again,

Re: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread Jay dedman
Yes, my search for cirne came up empty. Looks like they removed both my blip.tv and Google Video entries. Yes! not so simple. i assume they are still working on it. A search on MyHeavy brings back no results of any of the videos off of Blip. http://www.myheavy.com/search But my deep links

Re: [videoblogging] why it's important to get angry DO SOMETHING

2007-01-04 Thread Ron Watson
Rhett, I envision you reading this as a statement from behind a podium. What if we all made solid articulate speeches, in a standard, 'mainstream' media environment. It should be easy for us to put together a podium and some decent lighting to at least replicate a 'mainstream' standard of

[videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, my search for cirne came up empty. Looks like they removed both my blip.tv and Google Video entries. Yes! not so simple. i assume they are still working on it. A search on MyHeavy brings back no results

[videoblogging] CALL TO ARMS! was Re:MyHeavy

2007-01-04 Thread Steve Watkins
Do we know how much revenue they generated dsirectly from blip google videos? Do we know how long they had the 'search engine' aspect of their site running before it got pulled down? I support you on one level with what you are suggesting, but there are several hurdles Id think carefully before

[videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread Steve Watkins
Thats a technical issue. Those links arent really static links. The video.php file is clearly designed to take a url from the bit after the ? in the url. I could put a link to any video there and it would work. Hmm I think I fudged that explanation. Your videos arent really living on their

[videoblogging] postcards

2007-01-04 Thread RODLI PEDERSON
I have an emac with an iMage webcam and videocue pro. I am 65 years olds. I have some postcards that I wan to put on vblogs. WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO HOLD THEM UP TO WEBCAM SO SHAKING IS CUT DOWN I AM NEW TO THING GROUP AND MY COMPUTER IS LOCKED INTO CAPS. As I show the cards I would read what

RE: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread Mike Hudack
Thanks Steve. We do include the Creative Commons information in the RSS feed. -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Watkins Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 1:05 PM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject:

Re: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread Loiez D.
Hi all, The french press is talking about MyHeavy http://www.pointblog.com/past/2007/01/04/ myheavy_ne_respecte_pas_les_vloggers.htm Pointblog is one of the most important blog in France Nice day ;-) Loiez

RE: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread Mike Hudack
I doubt the direct links will be fixed because of the way the page works. The URL includes all the information necessary to render the page, without ever hitting the database. -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ryanne hodson

RE: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread Mike Hudack
See my earlier e-mail about this. -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jay dedman Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 12:48 PM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding

RE: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread Mike Hudack
Yes. We're meeting with them next week to figure out how they can do this properly. -Original Message- From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Enric Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 12:47 PM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject:

[videoblogging] Re: postcards

2007-01-04 Thread Steve Watkins
Greetings, Id improvise with some sort of stand that you attach the postcards to, or something you lean them against or stick them to. Then experiment getting the right distance between the postcard and your camera. Finally, experiment with your lighting in the room a bit so that the postcards

[videoblogging] CALL TO ARMS! was Re:MyHeavy

2007-01-04 Thread Mark Day
I note with a small degree of amusement that Gmail is offering me heavy.com - funny taylor hicks cartoon! ads. While it would be wrong to click it a few times just to cost them some marketing pocket-change, if anyone's sooo frustrated they just need to let off some steam

[videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Loiez D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, The french press is talking about MyHeavy http://www.pointblog.com/past/2007/01/04/ myheavy_ne_respecte_pas_les_vloggers.htm Pointblog is one of the most important blog in France Nice day ;-) Loiez

Re: [videoblogging] postcards

2007-01-04 Thread Steve Garfield
One thing you could do would be to attach the postcard to a board and then point the webcam at the board and take a picture. That way there won't be any shaking. While you're at it, put some light on the postcard. BTW, here's a way to shut off caps lock. On your mac, if you go to System

[videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread Angus McIntyre
Mike Hudack wrote: this would definitely be cool. I could go into my Blip dhasboard and simply balcklist any site I didnt want to link to me. how complicated would this be on a user by user basis? That is interesting. I'm going to noodle on this. mod_rewrite would be an obvious way to do

[videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread Steve Watkins
Cheers for the info :) This means there is no technical barrier for 3rd parties to get this licence info from the same source they are getting details of the video, which is great. So for example when there was a hooha about network2.tv not showing the license details on the page, they could get

RE: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread Mike Hudack
Steve, I think that for the time being at least there's a manageable group of worthwhile aggregation destinations, and it's possible for us to offer opt-in and opt-out from them within the dashboard. Moving forward we may go to a more freeform system, where we allow people to opt-in or out based

RE: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread WWWhatsup
Mike Hudack wrote: They have disabled their aggregation functionality entirely for the time being. I just got off the phone with their CEO, who was very contrite. We'll be meeting with them next week to figure out how to do this right, and allow people to opt in and out from blip using MediaRSS.

RE: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread Mike Hudack
We're embedding two types of control metadata in our RSS right now. First up is Creative Commons metadata using the creativeCommons namespace: creativeCommons:licensehttp://address.of.license/foo/bar//creativeCom mons:license Second is MediaRSS aggregation restriction: media:restriction

Re: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
Den 04.01.2007 kl. 16:20 skrev Mike Hudack [EMAIL PROTECTED]: That's correct. The problem is that we do want to be picky. We want to allow people to use VPIP to play back videos hosted on blip, but we don't want to allow them to use the MyHeavy player on MyHeavy.com (unless it's the content

[videoblogging] Opportunity to set video net standards (re:MyHeavy Issue)

2007-01-04 Thread Enric
Interestingly I found at the top of diggs tech area a post that relates to the issue with MyHeavy: http://digg.com/tech_news/MySpace_Gets_Goatse_d (Warning, goatse image linked in article) The blog entry referred to is at: http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/000278.html In the blog article

[videoblogging] Re: upcoming Flash features of vPIP

2007-01-04 Thread taulpaulmpls
Wow! Nice Enric. I'm debating on picking up a license for Flex 2.0 and charting to see what we can do w/ video in AS 3.0. Keep us abreast this project...Very cool! --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've made a custom version of vPIP for a customer,

Re: [videoblogging] Sport's Governing Body Pulls the Plug

2007-01-04 Thread Gary Short
Jay dedman wrote: is there a link? id like to know the reasoning behind the take down? Licensing? jay Well the link was at http://www.carnoustiegolflinks.co.uk/vlog/ but as you can see it's gone. I was asked to take it down by The Carnoustie Golf Links after the Royal Ancient applied

[videoblogging] Re: upcoming Flash features of vPIP

2007-01-04 Thread Enric
I shall, thanks for the interest. -- Enric -==- http://www.cirne.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, taulpaulmpls [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow! Nice Enric. I'm debating on picking up a license for Flex 2.0 and charting to see what we can do w/ video in AS 3.0. Keep us

[videoblogging] Re: Opportunity to set video net standards (re:MyHeavy Issue)

2007-01-04 Thread Steve Watkins
Brilliant! (if a little strong, especially as many of the 'victims' were innocent of direct evilhotlinking because it was really the template designers fault). Anyway I especially liked this sentiment from his blog entry: Hotlinking in itself is not so bad, in my book. I certainly get people

[videoblogging] CC licenses in your feed

2007-01-04 Thread Jay dedman
On a related note, how can 3rd parties go about accessing the creative commons or copyright licence attached to blip.tv videos? Im afraid I havent studied this to see what blip already does, is the cc stuff included in the blip RSS feed, or through an API if you offer one? This is a good

Re: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread Steve Garfield
Thanks Mike! On Jan 4, 2007, at 12:05 PM, Mike Hudack wrote: Yup, it looks like they've cleaned their act up. I'm expecting a call from their CEO in a few minutes, so I'm guessing that will be the message he delivers. -- Steve Garfield http://SteveGarfield.com

[videoblogging] Re: Sport's Governing Body Pulls the Plug

2007-01-04 Thread Steve Watkins
Well theres a heck of a lot of money more than I guess 70 years of formal study of PR etc. Concepts such as controlling the message and selecting the 'public face of entity', and not letting people peer behind the curtain, are deeply embedded in much of the commercial, and indeed non-commercial

Re: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread groups-yahoo-com
Been following this post. Fascinating stuff. Sull, Jay, Mike H, Enric... and everyone who's posted you all rock! I'm so glad we're getting beyond the knee jerk reaction and into the nitty gritty. I read every single comment in both threads... something like 140 comments. Riveting. One thing

[videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread johnleeke
to discuss these very issues. It's time for the crowd to recommend solutions. MyHeavy is now willing to play ball by your rules. Write the rules. I'll convey them. OK, the first rule is: If you used content without permission of the owner you have to pay the owner's asking price

[videoblogging] Re: CC licenses in your feed

2007-01-04 Thread Steve Watkins
Yes, I remember this group tried to tackle these issues I guess 18 months ago but it got bogged down by legal or overly technical discussions, and the bottom line was that most people were powerless to add this info to their feeds themseves, and need all the major services to do it for them.

Re: [videoblogging] MyHeavy.com Tinfoil Version...

2007-01-04 Thread Jay dedman
It's a really big Internet, and Heavy is much more concerned with the 17 year old boy sitting in front of his computer at 11 PM than they are with you. How much influence do you have over that kid? ahbut its a really small world. Im sitting here in Silicon Valleyand trust me...if

[videoblogging] MyHeavy.com, a call for discussion on proper re-vlogging ettiquette

2007-01-04 Thread Mike Meiser
I wanted to start a new thread. Basically this is a discussion of where not only Myheavy.com went wrong... but an opportunity to acknowlege and promote best practices for proper re-vlogging. Mike Hudack is going to meet with MyHeavy.com sometime in the next week or so and it would be nice if we

[videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread Steve Watkins
I can see where you are coming from with that sugestion, but it seems a tad OTT to me and would possibly harm the ability of a concensus forming around these 'rules'? Another problem with it is the concept of using something 'without permission'. At the heart of the abuses we have seen, is the

Re: [videoblogging] MyHeavy.com, a call for discussion on proper re-vlogging ettiquette

2007-01-04 Thread J. Rhett Aultman
I'm interested in trying to develop better rules for scraping/linking off of sites like MySpace, YouTube, or Google Video. These sites seem to generally have and show information on who uploaded a given video...perhaps this is a good way to contact the creator and minimally inform them they're

Re: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread Mike Meiser
comments below On 1/4/07, johnleeke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: to discuss these very issues. It's time for the crowd to recommend solutions. MyHeavy is now willing to play ball by your rules. Write the rules. I'll convey them. OK, the first rule is: If you used content without

[videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com, a call for discussion on proper re-vlogging ettiquette

2007-01-04 Thread Steve Watkins
I like your old guide, it may not need all that much of an update, need to hear from more creators on this, theres a hardcore who like to talk about these rights issues in depth, but many more who are angry enough to join in once a violation has occured, but for a multitude of valid reasons dont

[videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com, a call for discussion on proper re-vlogging ettiquette

2007-01-04 Thread Steve Watkins
Ahh theres a big problem with number 4. It defeats a large chunks of the rights you are giving with any of the creative commons licenses. To the best of my knowledge the CC licences give people the right to copy, distribute, display, and perform your work providing they stick to the other rules

[videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread cooper3acd
How it works in the courts... I did a bit of research as to how it works in the courts. There are 2 main parts: 1) Did they violate someone's copyright? (YES in this case) 2) Were there damages to the copyright holder? If the 2 conditions are met, the court then decides an appropriate

Re: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC Licenses

2007-01-04 Thread Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
Den 04.01.2007 kl. 23:18 skrev cooper3acd [EMAIL PROTECTED]: How it works in the courts... I did a bit of research as to how it works in the courts. There are 2 main parts: 1) Did they violate someone's copyright? (YES in this case) 2) Were there damages to the copyright holder? If the 2

[videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com, a call for discussion on proper re-vlogging ettiquette

2007-01-04 Thread Steve Watkins
Following on from that point, heres some exceptionally clear stuff from the creative commons site: http://creativecommons.org/about/licenses/fullrights All Creative Commons licenses have many important features in common. Every license will help you * retain your copyright * announce

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