Re: [videoblogging] Re: hello everyone!

2007-09-19 Thread Irina
jill neglected to mention she helped organize the YouTube nyc party this past summer sponsored by nextnewnetworks and blip she was also shown on iCaught, that wierd show on television LOL On 9/18/07, Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Jill. :) You'll want to join The New York City

Re: [videoblogging] Re: hello everyone!

2007-09-19 Thread Jan McLaughlin
Sweet! Sweet that you contribute to your community. Welcome to the vlogosphere, Jill. Jan On 9/19/07, Irina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jill neglected to mention she helped organize the YouTube nyc party this past summer sponsored by nextnewnetworks and blip she was also shown on iCaught,

[videoblogging] State of the art political videoblogging?

2007-09-19 Thread Raymond M. Kristiansen
Hey all, In my last post here (*http://tinyurl.com/3ch2az)*, I wrote about public service vlogging. Thanks for all the responses - I will make a post on dltq.org about PSV soon as well as a follow-up message in here. In the meantime, I have decided to once again jump into political videoblogging

[videoblogging] Re: Blog/Podcast about Podcasting for Profit on Sept 25th

2007-09-19 Thread leesarbarnes
My bad...a few of you let me know that the download link was not working. And shame on me for spelling Rocketboom wrong. Sorry Drew. Forgive me? All's been corrected. Thanks, Leesa Barnes http://www.leesabarnes.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, leesarbarnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[videoblogging] Do we affect users' expectation by the way we define ourselves?

2007-09-19 Thread Kfir Pravda
Hi, I am in California now, and had the time to write a post about something that is on my mind for a long time now. I think that when we call ourselves Internet TV creators, we are setting expectations that we can't meet. I tried to add more depth to the issue here:

[videoblogging] join me on justin.tv

2007-09-19 Thread Steve Garfield
Come join me on justin.tv and help me get closer to iJustine http:// www.justin.tv/evilvlog [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: [videoblogging] Do we affect users' expectation by the way we define ourselves?

2007-09-19 Thread Brook Hinton
For me, calling it Internet TV is setting the bar too LOW. Other than the fact that series work is possible on the web (not something previously limited to TV) and that moving images in a box are involved, I don't see how it has much to do with TV at all. I sometimes call it web cinema, but that's

Re: [videoblogging] Do we affect users' expectation by the way we define ourselves?

2007-09-19 Thread Jay dedman
I am in California now, and had the time to write a post about something that is on my mind for a long time now. I think that when we call ourselves Internet TV creators, we are setting expectations that we can't meet. I tried to add more depth to the issue here:

[videoblogging] Re: Do we affect users' expectation by the way we define ourselves?

2007-09-19 Thread Bill Cammack
repost from Kfir's site. I use .TV in my sites, because it's the recognized professional suffix for video sites. Other than that, I don't think I've ever referred to video on the internet as internet TV, merely because it was never ON TV. Yes, there are opportunities for Tivo and Apple TV

[videoblogging] [Reminder] 35 Live @ Wed Sep 19 17:00 - 23:00 (Jan McLaughlin)

2007-09-19 Thread Google Calendar
Jan McLaughlin, this is a reminder for Title: 35 Live Time: Wed Sep 19 17:00 - 23:00 (Eastern Time) Calendar: Jan McLaughlin You can view this event at

Re: [videoblogging] [Reminder] 35 Live @ Wed Sep 19 17:00 - 23:00 (Jan McLaughlin)

2007-09-19 Thread Steve Garfield
When I click the link I get no info on what this is... I know about the live show at 7 but what are you linking us to? On Sep 19, 2007, at 2:00 PM, Google Calendar wrote: Jan McLaughlin, this is a reminder for Title: 35 Live Time: Wed Sep 19 17:00 - 23:00 (Eastern Time) Calendar: Jan

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Do we affect users' expectation by the way we define ourselves?

2007-09-19 Thread Brook Hinton
Production values are more about people and skill than equipment, and skills can be learned. Including color correction, editing, cinematography, mixing. You can't do that crane shot through the window continuing out the other side of the high rise without big money, insurance, and the right

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Blog/Podcast about Podcasting for Profit on Sept 25th

2007-09-19 Thread John Coffey
Rocketbook, pocketbook, pocketboom all the same. Pocketbook? A Philly thing. --- leesarbarnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My bad...a few of you let me know that the download link was not working. And shame on me for spelling Rocketboom wrong. Sorry Drew. Forgive me? All's been corrected.

[videoblogging] YouTube suspends Vloggers account for Fair Use.

2007-09-19 Thread Bill Streeter
A local St. Louis video blogger, Antonio French, has had all his videos pulled from YouTube after a Local TV station sent a take down notice to YouTube. The video they sent the take down notice was a report that he had posted where they promised a follow up to a story about an alderman on the

[videoblogging] Re: YouTube suspends Vloggers account for Fair Use.

2007-09-19 Thread Bill Cammack
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A local St. Louis video blogger, Antonio French, has had all his videos pulled from YouTube after a Local TV station sent a take down notice to YouTube. The video they sent the take down notice was a report that

Re: [videoblogging] Re: YouTube suspends Vloggers account for Fair Use.

2007-09-19 Thread Brook Hinton
Important to note that this isn't so much a problem with YouTube as it is a problem with THE LAW, which blip and everyone else also has to deal with. Copyright infringement is your best entertainment value ---Negativland ___ Brook Hinton

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Do we affect users' expectation by the way we define ourselves?

2007-09-19 Thread Rupert
Amen, Brook. Production values are about time, people and skills, not money. Look at pretty much any TV show - soap, cooking, property, reality tv, etc... even in 99% of TV Drama, technically there is *nothing* that we cannot now reproduce or improve upon with very cheap equipment

Re: [videoblogging] Re: YouTube suspends Vloggers account for Fair Use.

2007-09-19 Thread pepa
[i'm not sure, maybe this is a silly question]: do you know why we don't hear about this take-down procedures in relation to blip? thank, friends. On 9/19/07, Brook Hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Important to note that this isn't so much a problem with YouTube as it is a problem with THE

[videoblogging] Re: YouTube suspends Vloggers account for Fair Use.

2007-09-19 Thread Bill Streeter
Well I agree that there are problems with the law, especially the DMCA, but really with this issue specifically it's not the law that is the problem, it's the way it's implemented and enforced. Fair Use is the law too, but it often gets pushed aside or over looked by over zelous enforcement of

RE: [videoblogging] Re: Do we affect users' expectation by the way we define ourselves?

2007-09-19 Thread Kfir Pravda
I really love this discussion. It seems that we focusing, at least in some cases, in looking into production value. Maybe production value can be mitigated with a wider experience? Meaning, maybe we can create a wider interaction with the viewers, that will compensate our lack of ability to reach

[videoblogging] Re: YouTube suspends Vloggers account for Fair Use.

2007-09-19 Thread Kent Nichols
Live by YouTube, die by YouTube. More food for thought that maintaining your own URL is more important than trying to succeed on sites where you have no formal business relationship with. -Kent, askaninja.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A

Re: [videoblogging] Re: YouTube suspends Vloggers account for Fair Use.

2007-09-19 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux
Especially since setting up your own Videoblogging site is getting easier and easier. (For example... now, it's fairly easy to do with WordPress with Show in a Box.) See ya On 9/19/07, Kent Nichols [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Live by YouTube, die by YouTube. More food for thought that

Re: [videoblogging] Re: YouTube suspends Vloggers account for Fair Use.

2007-09-19 Thread Rupert
A guess as to why we don't hear about this take-down procedures in relation to blip? Blip doesn't figure in any of the reports about market share for top video providers. Myspace, Youtube, Yahoo, Google get a mention, but never Blip. Lawyers are too busy working to know that there are any

[videoblogging] Re: YouTube suspends Vloggers account for Fair Use.

2007-09-19 Thread Heath
he should be able to send an email to Youtube outlining that it is fair use and they may re-enstate the video's. It has happened before, the big thing with the DMCA is, even though they (being the hosting provider) has to take something down no questions asked, if it proven the request is in

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Do we affect users' expectation by the way we define ourselves?

2007-09-19 Thread Brook Hinton
Amen right back, Rupert! Kfir, I think the point Rupert and I are both making is that there doesn't NEED to be a lack of ability re production value. The tools are no longer out of reach, and you can learn the skills. So why conpensate/mitigate? As an aside, traditional production values aren't

[videoblogging] Re: Do we affect users' expectation by the way we define ourselves?

2007-09-19 Thread Bill Cammack
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amen, Brook. Production values are about time, people and skills, not money. Look at pretty much any TV show - soap, cooking, property, reality tv, etc... even in 99% of TV Drama, technically there is *nothing*

Re: [videoblogging] Re: YouTube suspends Vloggers account for Fair Use.

2007-09-19 Thread Kenya Allmond
My Prince lip-sync video (not unlike Vlog Deathmatch videos) was taken down from YouTube a few weeks ago. Since then I have not put it on Blip because I would rather not see them added to the list of folks being sued these days. Veoh is being sued as well as of earlier this month. Because of

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Do we affect users' expectation by the way we define ourselves?

2007-09-19 Thread Rupert
You're right, Bill - but given the right circumstances, people's time can be valued very differently from how it would be valued if it's thought of in terms of its dollar value, and in terms of it being *instead of* work. We're all hypnotized by the idea of cash money as currency and time

Re: [videoblogging] Re: YouTube suspends Vloggers account for Fair Use.

2007-09-19 Thread Jay dedman
When the lawyers, etc., find out about Blip I'm sure they will point their minions at it as well. There are companies that do nothing but search YouTube all day looking for infringing videos. From what I gather from an article I read, these people aren't particularly skilled at

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Do we affect users' expectation by the way we define ourselves?

2007-09-19 Thread Rupert
One more point from me - I think the concept of Internet TV will be more appropriate when we are all consuming our online video from our couch, on our TVs. That's where we're headed, and quite soon. It'll feel more like TV because it'll be consumed though a TV, and more suited to being

Re: [videoblogging] Re: YouTube suspends Vloggers account for Fair Use.

2007-09-19 Thread Jay dedman
So as its been said, Youtube isnt really the bad boy here...they are just saving their own ass from law suitsquick to screw creators. It would be interesting to see Youtube and other big video sites actually stand up and help define fair use. blip actually makes their process very clear:

[videoblogging] Re: join me on justin.tv

2007-09-19 Thread bordercollieaustralianshepherd
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Come join me on justin.tv and help me get closer to iJustine http:// www.justin.tv/evilvlog [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[videoblogging] Re: join me on justin.tv

2007-09-19 Thread bordercollieaustralianshepherd
iSaw iHer iFirst --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Come join me on justin.tv and help me get closer to iJustine http:// www.justin.tv/evilvlog [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[videoblogging] Documentary Genre

2007-09-19 Thread Nancy Garcia
Hi all, This is the first time I post here, though I've been reading for months. I've really been enjoying the discussion lately. I'm doing some research on Internet Television, specifically the Documentary genre. I'd like to ask all of you: Who are your favorite internet documentary

[videoblogging] Re: [Reminder] 35 Live @ Wed Sep 19 17:00 - 23:00 (Jan McLaughlin)

2007-09-19 Thread bordercollieaustralianshepherd
Hey! Is this the link? Also not sure I am on time/in sync. I am NOT being a smart ass. Show starts at 9;00PM EST General info share. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24-hour_clock 1700 is 5:00pm 1800 is 6:00pm 2000 is 8:00pm 2100 is 9:00pm 2300 is 11:00pm 2400 is Midnight The

[videoblogging] Re: [Reminder] 35 Live @ Wed Sep 19 17:00 - 23:00 (Jan McLaughlin)

2007-09-19 Thread bordercollieaustralianshepherd
Hey! Is this the link? http://www.synchronis.tv/ Also not sure I am on time/in sync. I am NOT being a smart ass. Show starts at 9;00PM EST General info share. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24-hour_clock 1700 is 5:00pm 1800 is 6:00pm 2000 is 8:00pm 2100 is 9:00pm 2300 is 11:00pm 2400 is

RE: [videoblogging] Re: Do we affect users' expectation by the way we define ourselves?

2007-09-19 Thread Kfir Pravda
.As an aside, traditional production values aren't even necessarily the best ones for web video in the first place. From my perspective we should be creating new visual languages, new ways of conveying exploring and communicating.. Brook - I can't agree more with this portion of your response.

Re: [videoblogging] Re: [Reminder] 35 Live @ Wed Sep 19 17:00 - 23:00 (Jan McLaughlin)

2007-09-19 Thread Steve Garfield
I suggested they improve their home page to better explain when the show starts and where to watch. Right now it's not so clear. On Sep 19, 2007, at 7:29 PM, bordercollieaustralianshepherd wrote: Hey! Is this the link? http://www.synchronis.tv/ Also not sure I am on time/in sync. I

[videoblogging] One World - One Time!

2007-09-19 Thread bordercollieaustralianshepherd
It would be so much easier to drop time altogether, but that ain't gonna happen until the Zydridites fro Glyphixz ... and lets all stop pretending daylight savings time does anything but confuse. In the links section you will find: _ GMT Greenwich Mean Time GMT Greenwich Mean Time converter

Re: [videoblogging] Re: [Reminder] 35 Live @ Wed Sep 19 17:00 - 23:00 (Jan McLaughlin)

2007-09-19 Thread Steve Garfield
USTREAM LINK is BROKEN too http://www.synchronis.tv/www.ustream.tv/channel/35--a-scripted-live- webisode Should be: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/35--a-scripted-live-webisode On Sep 19, 2007, at 8:12 PM, Steve Garfield wrote: It's fixed, now says: “35″ premieres tonight! September 19,

Re: [videoblogging] Re: [Reminder] 35 Live @ Wed Sep 19 17:00 - 23:00 (Jan McLaughlin)

2007-09-19 Thread Jen Simmons
It's pretty dorky to put a link on your website front page to a live show that starts in a matter of hours, and then not even check the link to make sure it's right!!! DUH! (And a mistake we've all made). They've done such a professional job at promoting this thing and getting pre-press.

Re: [videoblogging] Re: [Reminder] 35 Live @ Wed Sep 19 17:00 - 23:00 (Jan McLaughlin)

2007-09-19 Thread Steve Garfield
It's fixed, now says: “35″ premieres tonight! September 19, 2007 – 7:47 pm Tune in right here to watch the premiere episode of “35″…or visit us over at ustream.tv --- But that's still a little confusing since the date stamp on the blog post looks like the time that the video is going to

[videoblogging] Re: [Reminder] 35 Live @ Wed Sep 19 17:00 - 23:00 (Jan McLaughlin)

2007-09-19 Thread jonny goldstein
One place you can watch is Jonny's Par-tay at 9PM Eastern. I'm going to embed the ustream in the Par-tay webpage with a chatroom underneath, then after the 10 minute episode, we'll keep talking. If you have a webcam and an operator11.com account, I'll try to put you on camera. If not, you can let

[videoblogging] Re: [Reminder] 35 Live @ Wed Sep 19 17:00 - 23:00 (Jan McLaughlin)

2007-09-19 Thread bordercollieaustralianshepherd
Hey Thanks Steve. I am still confused as a dog on a plane. http://www.ustream.tv/channel/35--a-scripted-live-webisode grabbed the URL from UStream. The banner for 35 reads 9PM Eastern Standard time. Can't miss that sweet audio and creamy colors. This does present a bit of a dilemma though.

[videoblogging] Re: YouTube suspends Vloggers account for Fair Use.

2007-09-19 Thread bordercollieaustralianshepherd
Is the video back up anywhere that we can see what all the fuss is about? Reads like fair use. The station has used his videos on their newscasts. Now that's Damning evidence. or Damn, that is evidence. What I did see that I do not recall in other cases is that YouTube's takedown notice where

[videoblogging] 35 series premire

2007-09-19 Thread bordercollieaustralianshepherd
I liked it a lot!

[videoblogging] Re: 35 series premire

2007-09-19 Thread jonny goldstein
I liked it a bunch too. If ya missed the debut of 35 you can check it out, along with our jonny's par-tay post mortem at http://tinyurl.com/2t24ru next week: drew olanoff of http://scriggity.com/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, bordercollieaustralianshepherd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I

Re: [videoblogging] Re: [Reminder] 35 Live @ Wed Sep 19 17:00 - 23:00 (Jan McLaughlin)

2007-09-19 Thread Harold Johnson
Yeah, Jan and I were talking during Tuesday's FlashMeeting about some of the website's needs. It was unclear whether the webcast would be presented at synchronis.tv or at ustream.tv. Anyway, I started at ustream tonight but then switched right over to synchronis.tv and it presented there very

Re: [videoblogging] State of the art political videoblogging?

2007-09-19 Thread Jay dedman
What organizations are doing highly innovative stuff with political videoblogging? Where are the case studies or at least links to current best practice? i dont think there are good examples for what you're talking about. all ive seen are things like this: http://www.foodbattle.org/ its

Re: [videoblogging] State of the art political videoblogging?

2007-09-19 Thread David King
Hmm... I have talked to my library a time or two about creating issue casts - you know, go bug all the local mayorial candidates, ask them to talk about one issue for 1-2 minutes, then schmush them all together into one video, and put it up on our library's website. Cool way to be fair

[videoblogging] Thank you for participating in the FlashMeetings

2007-09-19 Thread Harold Johnson
I've been meaning to thank all of you who've participated in the FlashMeeting sessions these past couple of weeks. Since taking over the moderation responsibilities, we've had visits from a variety of videobloggers, including: John Leeke, sharing his homeworking (de)construction ( on view at