2nd the motion for less talk more video.
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Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 11:07:18 +1100
From: Richard
well, how about a video with talk?it's time for me to dust off an early effort on vlog definitions http://www.richardshow.com/2005/06/richard-defines-video-blog.html
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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But it
became a vibrant media once Griffith found and clearly displayed the
60-120 minute, three act model in Birth of a Nation.
'The Birth of a Nation' goes for 187 minutes.
Just for the record.
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is the form of a duration around 90
minutes with three acts that does define the cinematic form.
This is so wrong it's not funny.
The length criterion (not to mention the absurd narrative-biased three
act structure
Warning - do not step into the ring with Matt Clayfield
on matters of the cinema. You will get served.
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Matthew Clayfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is the form of a duration around
It is more useful to have a model that applies somewhat than no model
at all.
-- Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
oxymoron alert!
there is no such thing as a correct model
otherwise it would not be a model
all models are approximations
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Matthew Clayfield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But it
became a vibrant media once Griffith found and clearly displayed the
60-120 minute, three act model in Birth of a Nation.
'The
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Matthew Clayfield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is the form of a duration around 90
minutes with three acts that does define the cinematic form.
This is so wrong it's not funny.
Enric wrote:
It is more useful to have a model that applies somewhat than no model
at all.
-- Enric
i can't say i agree with that enric
i think vlogs are more like canvas...
i looked up the definition of canvas a few times
all the ones i found were pretty lame
and they have no bearing
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 12/17/05, Randolfe Wicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't understand the need to strictly define videoblogging
except to
separate individually (or collectively) produced independent
video from
advertising
Ha, I had mistakenly thought this conversation was dead.
Here's something to think about for those that demand definition. Perhaps
defintions are for
those who can't simply enjoy something, or just plain don't get it? Definitions
are a crutch.
Go do something.
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, chris_koehn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Ha, I had mistakenly thought this conversation was dead.
Here's something to think about for those that demand definition.
Perhaps defintions are for
those who can't simply enjoy something, or just plain don't get
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Loiez D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In my opinion vlogging is not a modele ( there is x modele of vlogging)
may be a spirit the feeling of the media's mastering
i like the sounds of that!
i'm not one for dogma or definitions. but i've always been a sucker
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From a comment on Amazon.com on the running time of Birth of a Nation:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/6305130949/104-5203272-5767925?v=glancen=130:
Amazon offers eight or nine different prints of
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, there's a definition of cinema, I would say too loosely defined.
But a start. I'm not proposing a restrictive defintion of
videoblogging. Just that it is more useful to have a workable
definition than none.
--
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Matthew Clayfield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, there's a definition of cinema, I would say too loosely defined.
But a start. I'm not proposing a restrictive defintion of
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's not a crime to have models...
And I'm not saying it is. And I'm still not talking about videoblogging.
You didn't say that a certain form was or could be a model for a
certain type of cinema, Enric, you said that a
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Matthew Clayfield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From a comment on Amazon.com on the running time of Birth of a Nation:
Amazon offers eight or nine different prints of this film on video.
They are of varying prices, and varying run times: I found run times
of 124min., 125min., 158min., 159min., 190min., and 207min.
Wow, what a great idea. I'd love to be able to order a film at the
length I prefer. Imagine King
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Matthew Clayfield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's not a crime to have models...
And I'm not saying it is. And I'm still not talking about videoblogging.
You didn't say that a
On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 00:21:47 +0100, Richard Bennett-Forrest
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Amazon offers eight or nine different prints of this film on video.
They are of varying prices, and varying run times: I found run times
of 124min., 125min., 158min., 159min., 190min., and 207min.
Wow,
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard Bennett-Forrest
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Imagine King Kong at around 5 minutes.
There's a vlog entry in that.
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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Matthew Clayfield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Birth of a Nation has had different running times depending on what
the various distibutors over time thought worked best.
Oh, so
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Though finding the definition providing the fundatmental
characteristic of videoblogging will also be useful.
The fundamental characteristic of videoblogging is time-based images
exisiting in a more or less permeable network
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just a statement of fact, not value.
You were contradicting yourself.
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Amazon.com is NOT an authority. Check the IMDb if you have to check
anything.
i think Amazon owns IMDB.
-Josh
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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Matthew Clayfield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just a statement of fact, not value.
You were contradicting yourself.
You're correct on that point.
-- Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
i think Amazon owns IMDB.
Really? Wow. I had no idea.
What u$e could they po$$ibly have with a $ite like that, I wonder?
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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please explain and/or example permeable network context.
The multidirectional communication flow of the internet.
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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Matthew Clayfield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please explain and/or example permeable network context.
The multidirectional communication flow of the internet.
OK, what about the blog
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Matthew Clayfield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please explain and/or example permeable network context.
The
At 0:03 + 18/12/05, Enric wrote:
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Matthew Clayfield
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Are you guys having fun with this?
I hope so,
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard Bennett-Forrest
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 0:03 + 18/12/05, Enric wrote:
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Matthew Clayfield
--- In
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard Bennett-Forrest
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Are you guys having fun with this?
I hope so, because its starting to drag on a little...
Starting? A little?
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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard Bennett-Forrest
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Are you guys having fun with this?
I hope so, because its starting to drag on a little...
Starting? A little?
It's all about the tension over time. We'll
which would make videobloggers all gen(i)uses ;-/
On Dec 17, 2005, at 6:42 PM, Matthew Clayfield wrote:
If cinema is a phylum, videoblogging is a genus.
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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard Bennett-Forrest
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's all about the tension over time. We'll come to that later in our
series. :-)
Actually, I can't think of a worse example of storytelling than
discussion list topics! They suck hard when it comes time
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, robert a/k/a r
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
which would make videobloggers all gen(i)uses ;-/
Ha ha.
Seriously, though, we might say that if videoblogging is a genus, then
the various types of videoblogging (personal, citizen journalism,
experimental,
This is a very controversial film. No doubt there are several different cuts
floating around
out there.
Bill Streeter
LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
www.lofistl.com
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard Bennett-Forrest [EMAIL
PROTECTED] wrote:
Amazon offers eight or nine different prints of
Bill - You just nailed it. Well done.On 12/17/05, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is a very controversial film. No doubt there are several different cuts floating around
out there.
Bill Streeter
LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
www.lofistl.com
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard
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