[videoblogging] Re: H264 still free till 2016

2010-02-06 Thread elbowsofdeath
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Brook Hinton bhin...@... wrote: If we accept EITHER h.264 or Ogg as even close to an acceptable standard for online video quality we're in trouble. We have a long long long way to go in this area before we can call any codec at online bandwidth good. h.264

[videoblogging] Re: H264 still free till 2016

2010-02-06 Thread tom_a_sparks
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, elbowsofdeath st...@... wrote: snip I now what you mean but I dont really agree. I think where we are at is at an acceptable quality:size ratio and I dont see any signs that things will improve much in the short to medium term. Considering how much

[videoblogging] Re: H264 still free till 2016

2010-02-04 Thread elbowsofdeath
Good. And for those still worried about the future for h.264 after 2016 this buys a lot of time for alternative codecs to be improved. One of the reasons Ive been quite relaxed about all this licensing stuff is that generally companies are only after money from those who can afford to pay, its

Re: [videoblogging] Re: H264 still free till 2016

2010-02-04 Thread Jay dedman
They still gain in other ways by having h.264 as the standard, ie they get larger payments from companies that distribute a lot of video, sell video, make hardware software that encodes decodes, etc etc. The end user or small creator still ends up paying in the form of a small chunk of

[videoblogging] Re: H264 still free till 2016

2010-02-04 Thread elbowsofdeath
Well I always have very mixed feelings about patents because of what a mess can potentially be caused, especially for the web. Luckily some pragmatism tends to occur otherwise we'd have been stuffed by previous patent woes such as Amazon 1-click buy or BTs claim to hold a patent for hyperlinks.

Re: [videoblogging] Re: H264 still free till 2016

2010-02-04 Thread Brook Hinton
If we accept EITHER h.264 or Ogg as even close to an acceptable standard for online video quality we're in trouble. We have a long long long way to go in this area before we can call any codec at online bandwidth good. h.264 is just the first one that isn't HORRIBLE, and Ogg is better than the