Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh is dead

2010-02-19 Thread Adam Quirk
You're awesome Rox. Thanks for persevering and doing what you love. You are a great example to point to when people start out in this medium, or any medium actually. Some people get into something like web video or blogging and make something for a couple months, then get frustrated when nobody

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh is dead

2010-02-19 Thread Rupert Howe
It's not unlike TV, really. There are thousands of bad channels, a lot of shitty formats, and a small amount of shows of real quality. In terms of availability of IPTV, and the development of web TV, it's like TV was back in the mid 1940s. The money and infrastructure in TV allows the

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh is dead

2010-02-18 Thread Roxanne Darling
I am enjoying reading all these comments - though my head is like a ping pong ball banging back and forth as I agree with virtually all of the statements! Most of all though I have had a lifelong irritation with virtually every industry I have worked in that values the stuff more than the people.

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh is dead

2010-02-12 Thread Josh Paul
One word: Karma. Anyone remember them scraping various video sites (*cough*blip*cough*) and claiming the videos/users as their own? That was just before they closed a big round of funding... -- Josh Paul twitter: joshpaul linkedin: joshpaul

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh is dead

2010-02-12 Thread Dina
That is true...but they did eventually take all those videos down. I have to say that Dmitri has always been really friendly and nice, across many interactions over many years, and today of all days I want to wish him and everyone who worked at Veoh well. I actually think about everyone in

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh is dead

2010-02-12 Thread Jay dedman
I have to say that Dmitri has always been really friendly and nice, across many interactions over many years, and today of all days I want to wish him and everyone who worked at Veoh well. I actually think about everyone in our Web video world all those years ago as being somewhat of a pioneer.

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh is dead

2010-02-12 Thread elbowsofdeath
There is a rich spectrum of problems in this area and I dont see any signs that any have improved since we first talked about these issues years ago. Problems such as: Creating compelling content Getting an audience large enough to monetize in any meaningful way Lack of promotion capabilities

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh is dead

2010-02-12 Thread Jay dedman
As a viewer I remain pissed off that when I go looking for regular compelling content I usually find magazine-format programs that dont float my boat for reasons of my age, the pace of the show, or cultural incompatibilities (eg I like Americans but where the hell are the British shows not

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh is dead

2010-02-12 Thread Bohuš
elbowsofdeath wrote: There is a rich spectrum of problems in this area and I dont see any signs that any have improved since we first talked about these issues years ago. I'm decloaking to roundly agree with you. I've been in discussions with several local TV broadcasters here in Chicago who

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh is dead

2010-02-12 Thread elbowsofdeath
Do you think its safe to try discussing the creation aspect, now that there are presumably less people participating here, and there is no longer a danger of urinating on the newborn flames of vlog hope where everything seemed possible because that time has long passed? I'll pick one vital

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh is dead

2010-02-12 Thread Jay dedman
I suppose one of the reasons Ive always liked non-commercial personal vlogs is that many people can be entertaining in ways that are not 'larger-than-life' that showbiz requires, that are just the same as the ways normal people have entertained eachother on a close personal level since time

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh is dead

2010-02-12 Thread Jay dedman
Do you think its safe to try discussing the creation aspect, now that there are presumably less people participating here, and there is no longer a danger of urinating on the newborn flames of vlog hope where everything seemed possible because that time has long passed? My friend, David,

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh is dead

2010-02-12 Thread Michael Sullivan
i dont think their is much getting around the fact that making good money with web video 'shows' is extremely difficult and frustrating. in a sense, technology advancements have helped and hindered. accessible tech equates to enormous competition, redundancy and noise. imagine if rocketboom

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh is dead

2010-02-11 Thread elbowsofdeath
Oh. I expected more web video companies to go bust more quickly than has actually been the case, so in some ways I am surprised it took this long for another well-known player to fail. Ive read at least one article that suggests the Universal Music lawsuit was the main factor that killed them

[videoblogging] Re: Veoh is dead

2010-02-11 Thread elbowsofdeath
By the way their website is still up as I write this, although when poking around I note they havnt put a new press-release on their site since December 2008. Did some brief trawling through the archives of this group circa 2005-2006 and saw one reason why I remember Veoh - Their founder was

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh is dead

2010-02-11 Thread Jay dedman
Did some brief trawling through the archives of this group circa 2005-2006 and saw one reason why I remember Veoh - Their founder was active here when they started, and the Halycon bloke with pink hair rather overpromoted them on this group from time to time. Those were the days when you