Re: [videoblogging] Re: what is vlogging...

2005-12-18 Thread Richard Show
maybe some of you McLuhan experts can tell me if you know of a reference for a quote that someone attributed to him that was something likeAnyone who thinks that entertainment and education are different doesn't know the first thing about either. ... I like the quote and would like to find the

[videoblogging] Re: what is vlogging...

2005-12-18 Thread Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard Show [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: maybe some of you McLuhan experts can tell me if you know of a reference for a quote that someone attributed to him that was something like Anyone who thinks that entertainment and education are different doesn't

Re: [videoblogging] Re: what is vlogging...

2005-12-18 Thread Richard Show
Thanks Enric for the exact quote ... I'm also trying to figure out exactly where it came from and, for the record, it appears that maybe it's from a 1960 article called Classroom Without Walls in a book called Explorations in Communication (Boston: Beacon Press, 1960) Marshall McLuhan, excerpt

[videoblogging] Re: what is vlogging...

2005-12-17 Thread Matthew Clayfield
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would amend this to the opportunity to be heard or maybe the right to the opportunity... And that's what counts. The read-write web has turned negative liberties into positive liberties. At least for some. I

[videoblogging] Re: what is vlogging...

2005-12-17 Thread Matthew Clayfield
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Christopher Weagel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This can only be enforced with STRICT and REGULAR purges and TESTS of the impure. I urge you to begin them immediately. Chris Weagel www.human-dog.com Videobloggers of the world, unite!

[videoblogging] Re: what is vlogging...

2005-12-17 Thread Chuck Olsen
We were the media --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Matthew Clayfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Christopher Weagel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This can only be enforced with STRICT and REGULAR purges and TESTS of the impure. I urge you to

[videoblogging] Re: what is vlogging...

2005-12-17 Thread Matthew Clayfield
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Chuck Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We were the media Actually, I've always had a problem with the term we are the media. I mean, do we really want to be the media? The media are evil. I personally think the 'the' should have been removed. We are

Re: [videoblogging] Re: what is vlogging...

2005-12-17 Thread Loiez D.
we will be "the" media ?Le 17 déc. 05 à 22:47, Chuck Olsen a écrit : We were the media --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Matthew Clayfield" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Christopher Weagel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This can only be enforced with

[videoblogging] Re: what is vlogging...

2005-12-17 Thread Matthew Clayfield
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Loiez D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we will be the media? A media, among many. There will be no 'the.' Now, *this* is absurd... :D Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income homes are not online. Make a

Re: [videoblogging] Re: what is vlogging...

2005-12-17 Thread Loiez D.
Désolé, j'ai peut-être fait un contresens et il serait plus facile pour moi de m'exprimer en français ;-(LoiezWhy you don't speak french ? and spanish, turkish, german..Le 17 déc. 05 à 23:07, Matthew Clayfield a écrit : --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Loiez D." [EMAIL

[videoblogging] Re: what is vlogging...

2005-12-17 Thread Matthew Clayfield
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Loiez D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why you don't speak french ? and spanish, turkish, german.. Because I can't! Puisque je ne peux pas! Weil ich nicht kann! ¡Porque no puedo! And so on and so forth. Yahoo! Groups

Re: [videoblogging] Re: what is vlogging...

2005-12-17 Thread Loiez D.
Sorry for this thread i was angry ;-n because it's difficult to be a citizen of the world But I think vlogging could be a way for that Peace, love, and vlogging for all !!! Loiez Le 17 déc. 05 à 23:29, Matthew Clayfield a écrit : And so on and so forth.

[videoblogging] Re: what is vlogging...

2005-12-17 Thread Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Matthew Clayfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Chuck Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We were the media Actually, I've always had a problem with the term we are the media. I mean, do we really want to be the media?

Re: [videoblogging] Re: what is vlogging...

2005-12-17 Thread Michael I
Define mediaEnric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Matthew Clayfield" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Chuck Olsen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:We were the mediaActually, I've always had a problem with the term "we are

[videoblogging] Re: what is vlogging...

2005-12-17 Thread Matthew Clayfield
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For now we are human beings that produce and consume media through tools. Have to wait for nanotechnology and genetical capabilities to be media. Sigh. Enric, that remains true with or without the 'the'.

Re: [videoblogging] Re: what is vlogging...

2005-12-17 Thread Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 00:00:09 +0100, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For now we are human beings that produce and consume media through tools. Have to wait for nanotechnology and genetical capabilities to be media. Since I managed to bring up McLuhan in the video conference today: We don't