Re: [videoblogging] pyro.tv transcoding and rehosting your stuff

2007-04-14 Thread Adam Quirk, Wreck Salvage
In the gold rushes the people who got rich were the ones selling pans and
shovels, not the panners. People who are out to make a buck on the back of
another will always be able find a way to do that.  I don't respect them,
but I accept them.  Like I accept the existence of bacteria in my
intestine.  I know it's living in there, serving some kind of purpose, I
just usually avoid thinking about it.

If they become larger, like a tapeworm say, and start causing health
problems, like stealing viewership and therefore ad revenue, then maybe it's
time to call in the Quinacrine, or a lawyer.

Drunken metaphoring, sorry if none of that made sense.



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Re: [videoblogging] pyro.tv transcoding and rehosting your stuff

2007-04-14 Thread Jan McLaughlin
Blip's ads do not play through.

That's a factor...

Jan

On 4/14/07, Adam Quirk, Wreck  Salvage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In the gold rushes the people who got rich were the ones selling pans and
 shovels, not the panners. People who are out to make a buck on the back of
 another will always be able find a way to do that.  I don't respect them,
 but I accept them.  Like I accept the existence of bacteria in my
 intestine.  I know it's living in there, serving some kind of purpose, I
 just usually avoid thinking about it.

 If they become larger, like a tapeworm say, and start causing health
 problems, like stealing viewership and therefore ad revenue, then maybe
 it's
 time to call in the Quinacrine, or a lawyer.

 Drunken metaphoring, sorry if none of that made sense.



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 Wreck  Salvage
 551.208.4644
 Brooklyn, NY
 http://wreckandsalvage.com


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Re: [videoblogging] pyro.tv transcoding and rehosting your stuff

2007-04-14 Thread Steve Garfield
I blogged about it here:

http://offonatangent.blogspot.com/2007/03/mike-hudacks-rules-for- 
video-sharing.html

or

http://tinyurl.com/2pvyg9

And posted their initial response:

Update from Pyro.tv via Roxanne:

I understand the importance of tracking views and data. We will be  
soon releasing a tool for publishers like yourself to get direct  
visibility to your feed and titles performance through our service. I  
will let you know when it is available. In the meantime, I'd be happy  
to pass along any data we had already gathered (granted we have only  
been public for a few days).

I have passed your feedback to our product group and will be  
implementing changes as soon as we can. If you visit the site you  
should see that the pyro.tv watermark in the player has already been  
removed.

I am also recommending a clear link in the player area titled Visit  
this publisher's website or something similar, among other changes  
to provide clear information about the content owner and rights.

Any additional feedback you can provide would be greatly appreciated. 


On Apr 14, 2007, at 7:44 AM, Steve Garfield wrote:

 Hey,
 A few of us contacted them last month and since then they have
 removed the branding from the video and added a link back to the
 website.

 They still don't link to the permalink of the post and they don't
 display the CC license that's embedded in my RSS feed.

 It's right in my feed:

 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/

 --Steve

 On Apr 14, 2007, at 6:10 AM, Jan McLaughlin wrote:

 Blip's ads do not play through.

 That's a factor...

 Jan

 On 4/14/07, Adam Quirk, Wreck  Salvage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 In the gold rushes the people who got rich were the ones selling
 pans and
 shovels, not the panners. People who are out to make a buck on the
 back of
 another will always be able find a way to do that.  I don't
 respect them,
 but I accept them.  Like I accept the existence of bacteria in my
 intestine.  I know it's living in there, serving some kind of
 purpose, I
 just usually avoid thinking about it.

 If they become larger, like a tapeworm say, and start causing health
 problems, like stealing viewership and therefore ad revenue, then
 maybe
 it's
 time to call in the Quinacrine, or a lawyer.

 Drunken metaphoring, sorry if none of that made sense.



 --
 Adam Quirk
 Wreck  Salvage
 551.208.4644
 Brooklyn, NY
 http://wreckandsalvage.com


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Re: [videoblogging] pyro.tv transcoding and rehosting your stuff

2007-04-14 Thread ryanne hodson
i also got a response from them saying what sull had said
that they transcode so it's a more reliable playback experience...

Ryanne - I'll have your channel removed as soon as possible.  Just an FYI,
I
understand that transcoding and hosting is an issue, but we decided to go
ahead with it because it significantly improves the viewing experience in a
web environment.  We track all viewing data (not just downloads) and will be
making it available to all publishers in the next week.




On 4/14/07, Steve Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   I blogged about it here:

 http://offonatangent.blogspot.com/2007/03/mike-hudacks-rules-for-
 video-sharing.html

 or

 http://tinyurl.com/2pvyg9

 And posted their initial response:

 Update from Pyro.tv via Roxanne:

 I understand the importance of tracking views and data. We will be
 soon releasing a tool for publishers like yourself to get direct
 visibility to your feed and titles performance through our service. I
 will let you know when it is available. In the meantime, I'd be happy
 to pass along any data we had already gathered (granted we have only
 been public for a few days).

 I have passed your feedback to our product group and will be
 implementing changes as soon as we can. If you visit the site you
 should see that the pyro.tv watermark in the player has already been
 removed.

 I am also recommending a clear link in the player area titled Visit
 this publisher's website or something similar, among other changes
 to provide clear information about the content owner and rights.

 Any additional feedback you can provide would be greatly appreciated. 


 On Apr 14, 2007, at 7:44 AM, Steve Garfield wrote:

  Hey,
  A few of us contacted them last month and since then they have
  removed the branding from the video and added a link back to the
  website.
 
  They still don't link to the permalink of the post and they don't
  display the CC license that's embedded in my RSS feed.
 
  It's right in my feed:
 
  http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/
 
  --Steve
 
  On Apr 14, 2007, at 6:10 AM, Jan McLaughlin wrote:
 
  Blip's ads do not play through.
 
  That's a factor...
 
  Jan
 
  On 4/14/07, Adam Quirk, Wreck  Salvage [EMAIL 
  PROTECTED]quirk%40wreckandsalvage.com
 
  wrote:
 
  In the gold rushes the people who got rich were the ones selling
  pans and
  shovels, not the panners. People who are out to make a buck on the
  back of
  another will always be able find a way to do that. I don't
  respect them,
  but I accept them. Like I accept the existence of bacteria in my
  intestine. I know it's living in there, serving some kind of
  purpose, I
  just usually avoid thinking about it.
 
  If they become larger, like a tapeworm say, and start causing health
  problems, like stealing viewership and therefore ad revenue, then
  maybe
  it's
  time to call in the Quinacrine, or a lawyer.
 
  Drunken metaphoring, sorry if none of that made sense.
 
 
 
  --
  Adam Quirk
  Wreck  Salvage
  551.208.4644
  Brooklyn, NY
  http://wreckandsalvage.com
 
 
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[videoblogging] pyro.tv transcoding and rehosting your stuff

2007-04-13 Thread ryanne hodson
yep.
another one

http://www.pyro.tv/

transcoding your stuff to flash (heck, it even looks ok)
but then re-hosting.

and i so sick and tired that i'll just let this one slide?
um no.
that ain't cool.

SIGH

-ryanne

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