Re: [whatwg] video element proposal

2007-03-05 Thread Maik Merten
Gervase Markham schrieb: They estimate the increase in download size for a browser shipping Ogg + Theora-ng + Vorbis at 130k. Actually I took the liberty of trying to squeeze a functional set of Ogg decoding libraries into a small footprint (mainly by stripping binaries and using -Os instead of

Re: [whatwg] audio vs. video

2007-03-05 Thread Maik Merten
Elliotte Harold schrieb: If we add a video element, should we for the same reasons add an audio element? If not, why not? I'd say that audio and video actually are pretty similiar. They need controls to start playback, to stop playback, to seek, to pause, ... Perhaps there shouldn't be a video

Re: [whatwg] audio vs. video

2007-03-05 Thread Håkon Wium Lie
Also sprach Elliotte Harold: If we add a video element, should we for the same reasons add an audio element? Yes. It seems to me these two cases are similar enough to justify similar treatment. Is there any distinction between the two that would suggest audio is inappropriate while

Re: [whatwg] href attribute

2007-03-05 Thread Colin Lieberman
Cheers Matthew - That's probably the most sensible explanation possible. Well done. I'm convinced. Matthew Raymond wrote: carmen wrote: On Fri Mar 02, 2007 at 08:09:10PM +0100, David Håsäther wrote: I don't see the href attribute specified anywhere but the a element in the current

[whatwg] JavaScipt in output?

2007-03-05 Thread Elliotte Harold
Consider this example of the output element from the spec: form p input name=a type=number step=any value=0 * input name=b type=number step=any value=0 = output name=result onforminput=value = a.value * b.value0/output /p /form This is probably an obvious question, but is the language

Re: [whatwg] base versus xml:base

2007-03-05 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 22:07:03 +0100, Keryx Web [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It may be that I've implemented this in the wrong way - corrections are welcome - but it seems to me that even though xml:base is legal today, it is **not** supported by UAs. Which makes Anne's proposal, that base should

Re: [whatwg] video element proposal

2007-03-05 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Mar 4, 2007, at 16:31, Geoffrey Sneddon wrote: Also note that patents haven't stopped the web in the past (see: GIF). The fact that the Welch patent did not totally wreck the Web and did not cause browsers to drop GIF support should *not* be considered evidence of the harmlessness of

Re: [whatwg] base versus xml:base

2007-03-05 Thread Geoffrey Sneddon
On 5 Mar 2007, at 21:07, Keryx Web wrote: Geoffrey Sneddon wrote: XHTML 1.0/1.1 doesn't allow xml:base, though, so base is the only way to set a base URL within the document. In what way would the XHTML 1.0/1.1 spec **disallow** the use of this element from the xml namespace? It's not

[whatwg] article: do we really need this?

2007-03-05 Thread Elliotte Harold
Has there been any extensive discussion of the article element in Web Apps 1.0? It is currently described as: represents a section of a page that consists of a composition that forms an independent part of a document, page, or site. This could be a forum post, a magazine or newspaper article,

Re: [whatwg] Distinguishing XML and HTML by content sniffing

2007-03-05 Thread Michael Day
Hi Simon, If you load a file from disk, then use any meta information the OS can provide. (I think Linux can store Content-Type information for files.) If the OS relies on file extensions (like Windows does) then use that. Some Linux file systems might potentially be capable of storing extra

Re: [whatwg] audio vs. video

2007-03-05 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 02:56:31 +1100, Maik Merten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Elliotte Harold schrieb: If we add a video element, should we for the same reasons add an audio element? If not, why not? I'd say that audio and video actually are pretty similiar. They need controls to start playback,

Re: [whatwg] article: do we really need this?

2007-03-05 Thread fantasai
Elliotte Harold wrote: Has there been any extensive discussion of the article element in Web Apps 1.0? It is currently described as: represents a section of a page that consists of a composition that forms an independent part of a document, page, or site. This could be a forum post, a

Re: [whatwg] href attribute

2007-03-05 Thread Matthew Raymond
Leons Petrazickis wrote: The sister issue of easy-of-typing is ease-of-reading. Human editing of raw HTML isn't going away. In headier coding disciplines, high readability is prized. Most code -- even HTML code -- will spend a lot more of its time being maintained than being written. Being

Re: [whatwg] article: do we really need this?

2007-03-05 Thread Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
The HyperTextuality Firefox extension I've been writing attempts to work out the most relevant URI for a given piece of content, for bookmarking or quoting. Front pages of blogs, the most important use-case, also pose a particular problem as many blogs don't have an obvious structure (to an

Re: [whatwg] video element proposal

2007-03-05 Thread Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
Maciej Stachowiak wrote: Restricting the types of content that the video element can handle will stifle future innovation, and will likely be ignored by browser vendors who decide they would like to support new formats. It would also be unprecedented relative to type restrictions on