Re: [whatwg] several messages

2007-11-07 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 6 Nov 2007, Geoffrey Sneddon wrote: I think it's way better to stay consistent. Especially as the feature affects the Referer (sic) header. I too think Anne is right here � there are enough things that are inconsistent in the web already. Don't add another thing that requires

[whatwg] Improving specification of accesskey?

2007-11-07 Thread Darin Adler
Hi folks. I've been looking at an accesskey bug or two in Safari and I am quite frustrated about the poor standardization of the meaning of this attribute. I concur with the comments at http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/forms/accesskey.html that quote the HTML 4 specification and then says:

Re: [whatwg] Improving specification of accesskey?

2007-11-07 Thread Darin Adler
On Nov 7, 2007, at 11:25 AM, Michael(tm) Smith wrote: A few months back, Charles McCathieNevile proposed a spec for accesskey on the public-html list: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2007Jul/thread.html#msg185 That thread is maybe worth taking some time to read I've just

Re: [whatwg] Improving specification of accesskey?

2007-11-07 Thread Michael(tm) Smith
Darin Adler [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2007-11-07 09:22 -0800: I've been looking at an accesskey bug or two in Safari and I am quite frustrated about the poor standardization of the meaning of this attribute. [...] I think it would be useful to specify this precisely in HTML 5. accesskey is in wide

Re: [whatwg] Improving specification of accesskey?

2007-11-07 Thread Michael(tm) Smith
Darin Adler [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2007-11-07 11:38 -0800: [...] I was hoping HTML 5 would document existing practice in a way that's less vague than what HTML 4 says. We could consider changes and new features as well, but that's even more challenging. Maciej suggested that we dump accesskey

[whatwg] OT: Re: several messages (trolly-style)

2007-11-07 Thread Krzysztof Żelechowski
Dnia 07-11-2007, śro o godzinie 15:27 +, Ian Hickson napisał(a): On Tue, 6 Nov 2007, Geoffrey Sneddon wrote: And as far as I can tell, standards other than HTTP have taken this tack too. For example, the document you can access from JavaScript has a referrer property, without the

Re: [whatwg] Improving specification of accesskey?

2007-11-07 Thread timeless
On Nov 7, 2007 9:38 PM, Darin Adler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We could consider changes and new features as well, but that's even more challenging. Maciej suggested that we dump accesskey and replace it with something that would solve the real problem, and I think that's also worth pursuing

Re: [whatwg] [HTML5] Named start values for lists?

2007-11-07 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 26 Jun 2006, dolphinling wrote: HTML5 brings back the |start| attribute on ordered lists. This allows a list to semantically start with a number other than one. It seems like the major use case for this is to split lists up, so that a single list is marked by multiple ols. Would

Re: [whatwg] Definition Lists Recommendations

2007-11-07 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006, Eugene T.S. Wong wrote: Should DL children be LI? I ask because I think that it will create better structure than having all DT DD elements be children of the same parent. If we use LI as children of DL elements, and then make DT DD elements the children of the LI

Re: [whatwg] [WA1] ol type=a is semantic

2007-11-07 Thread Ian Hickson
In conclusion, ol type=... hasn't been added to HTML. The suggestion for addressing the main use case (reference) is to use a hyperlink and CSS to do the cross-references; CSS is working on this kind of thing. In coming to this conclusion, the big concern from my point of view was that there