year suggesting that the values of input
elements be derived from their value attributes - the purpose there
being to be able to control the form via the microdata interface. I've
only been able to read it in the archives - the brief exchange was
between Igor Nikolev and Ian Hickson, who
(and recommended) implemenation
strategy.
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even do that, they just
encode their data in a well-defined order with no delimiters at all.
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On Sun, 27 Jan 2013, Jack (Zhan, Hua Ping) wrote:
The postMessage design outlined in the W3C document edited by Ian
Hickson is not good! The design of the cross document messaging by Ian
Hickson (Google, Inc.) is very bad. Even the last version is not good
either.
:-(
The design can
can't you put plain text or XML data in other files? So long as
everything is same origin, you can read anything you want via XHR.
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tables long before we're going to reach practical limits
of document size. A multimegabyte table is going to cause layout problems
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2013/7/31 Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch
On Wed, 31 Jul 2013, Benoit Jacob wrote:
Ping --- I thought that there was sufficient agreement in this
thread, around the fact that supportsContext, as currently spec'd
and currently implementable
on a misunderstanding of document.domain. For
document.domain to work, _both_ sides have to do it.
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of file token, and that causes the head element
to be generated, and switches you to in head, where head is popped and
you switch to after head, where you insert a body element and switch
to in body, at which point you stop parsing.
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On Fri, 2 Aug 2013, Yasuhiko Minamide wrote:
On Mon, 1 Jul 2013, Ian Hickson wrote:
One option would be to remove from the stack of open elements any
elements that we are skipping when we bail out of the AAA.
Can anyone see a problem with doing that?
I think that this solves
#location, then insert the newly created element at the adjusted
#insertion location.
...which appends the body element to the html element (after the
head element, which goes through the same process earlier). When you
append a node to another, they end up in the same Document.
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On Fri, 2 Aug 2013, Boris Zbarsky wrote:
On 8/2/13 6:55 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
How does it solve it? (What _is_ the mail.google.com vs
calendar.google.com case?)
The case is when mail.google.com tries to attack calendar.google.com,
and they can't be in different processes as mitigation
it.
Basically, I think you should view as splash screens as much the same way
as installation -- bugs from a legacy world that we should work hard to
avoid reintroducing into the Web platform.
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the words in the HTML
namespace everywhere in the spec.
I don't really understand why that case is ambiguous, but thousands of
others aren't. Can you elaborate on what the difference is?
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these.
As you can see, it's really only a few dozen ambiguous cases, not
thousands.
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, but not other parts of
the spec.
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-conforming. I think authors would have more difficulty with the idea
that certain rel= values are ok in certain places, than they would with
the idea that certain attributes are ok there and others aren't. (With
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actually has scoping built-in, so
it'd be even more dire with CSS, as far as I can tell.
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explicit in some
places but not others, and they'll assume there's some meaningful
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for
which the feature was added. So it's not as clear cut as it might seem.
(Note that decisions for WHATWG specs aren't made based on consensus. Even
if everyone agrees on something, if there's one more compelling argument
to the contrary, that's the one that's going to win.)
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On 17/01/2013 23:31, Ian Hickson wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jan 2013, David Carlisle wrote:
http://www.w3.org/2003/entities/2007doc/xhtmlpubid.html
But basically it solves the problem that the existing list leads to
a situation where data
enough for the user. (For example, even really
large and expensive pages like Google+ render in a usable state quickly,
even though they continue to load assets and scripts in the background and
thus actually don't present an interactive UI straight away.)
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One option would be to remove from the stack of open elements any
elements that we are skipping when we bail out of the AAA.
Can anyone see a problem with doing that?
Since nobody raised any problems with this, I've now done this.
For background
On Mon, 1 Jul 2013, Glenn Maynard wrote:
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 6:16 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
It seems bad, and maybe rather full of hubris, to make it conforming
to use a label that we know will be interpreted in a manner that is a
willful violation of its spec
anyway,
- the quirk needs special handling in the fragment case anyway,
- it's not clear what the behaviour should be,
- in many cases, we're not error-correcting in a useful way anyway.
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ASCII is a 7 bit encoding).
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On Mon, 29 Jul 2013, Rik Cabanier wrote:
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013, Rik Cabanier wrote:
Does that mean it should be stroked along the path?
That depends on the platform. Some platforms render the focus as a
highlight, some
shouldn't support it
with its own dedicated field. In particular, since it's so rare that most
people don't implement it, we'd have to come up with a way to split up the
information when only one field was available, anyway. This just seems
like a world of pain.
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just a lot of work, and then a
lot more work cleaning up the edges.
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the type attribute is changed, and when the element is created, and
so forth.) The other algorithms are invoked when they say they are
invoked, so they don't need a label -- nothing else directly invokes them.
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of running commentary of
what's going on, and having the placeholder appear there when you hover
over the control, or...). It's up to the UAs to pick the right behaviour
for their users.
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guess.
I'd been intentionally not specifying this so as to not bias
implementations, and so as to see what implementations settled upon. If
implementations are ready to freeze their current behaviours, I'm happy
to start adding this kind of detail to the spec. Has this time come?
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, which makes no sense to me.
Are we sure people in locales that use CEDEX won't find it more intuitive
to add it after the locality, the way it is written on envelopes?
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ring should be around the path and drawn in
accordance to the browser's algorithm of focus regions.
Not really should what you're asking. Can you elaborate?
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On Mon, 14 Jan 2013, Jonas Sicking wrote:
On Jan 8, 2013 1:47 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2012, Mikko Rantalainen wrote:
Ian Hickson, 2012-11-22 07:15 (Europe/Helsinki):
On Wed, 21 Nov 2012, Mounir Lamouri wrote:
Then, maybe a better naming could
.
As for the color of the focus ring, shouldn't it come from the ':focus'
style of the element that is passed in?
It should come from the platform. See also this recent discussion:
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that we make the
element take a timezone as an input (through an attribute or some such).
The picker would then select just date+time but return a result using
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is actually left off of the returned value, too.
That's type=datetime-local. It's not only useful for floating times, as
noted in the response on this bug, which is why it's not called something
with floating in the name:
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17856
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not making judgements on whether
they're right or wrong; vendors disagree on this, which is why I'm
couching my response in these terms.)
Thus the current unfortunate situation.
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On Tue, 30 Jul 2013, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jul 2013, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:
I actually think we need to distinguish between local and floating
time zones.
When using datetime-local, I would actually expect
that the spec should be precise. If there's concrete examples
where it's not, please do bring them up so we can fix them.
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013, Henri Sivonen wrote:
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 10:00 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jan 2013, Henri Sivonen wrote:
I understand
to in Firefox.
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On Wed, 9 Jan 2013, Anne van Kesteren wrote:
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
Advantages of putting this in JS over multipart:
- it's backwards-compatible
- it's easier to parse a static barrier than a multipart/*'s wacky
syntax.
- it doesn't
On Fri, 12 Jul 2013, James Greene wrote:
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Tue, 5 Feb 2013, Nathan Broadbent wrote:
The current information passed to window.onerror rarely provides
sufficient information to find the cause of the error. The column
On Mon, 31 Dec 2012, Pierre Dubois wrote:
On Fri Dec 14 2012, Ian Hickson wrote:
I don't think this works for all tables. For example, the first
example in the spec in the th element's section does not get handled
correctly by your algorithm -- it treats the ID column as important
origin doesn't match the URL's origin, the page's origin
will always just serialise as null, so it's not clear that it's actually
useful to expose that really anyway. What would the use cases be?
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. The
scripting-is-enabled stuff is only checked when HTML itself tries to
compile or run a script, e.g. in a script block or event handler.
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that in this case, you should
update the placeholder?
This seems hard to define.
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tell, it _is_ written in the spec. scale(0,0) would reduce
all coordinates and lines and so forth to 0,0. That's what the spec
requires. I don't see the problem here.
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preference, modulo logistics around
editing -- I think we should just have one Web spec), it seems
impractical to actually mention all of them in the HTML spec. This is why
we don't list them currently.
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On Mon, 31 Dec 2012, Jonas Sicking wrote:
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 11:07 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Fri, 28 Dec 2012, Jonas Sicking wrote:
I don't think it's a good solution to leave it undefined if
all/none/some of the UA menuitems are displayed by default. While
On Thu, 20 Dec 2012, Rik Cabanier wrote:
On Thu, 20 Sep 2012, Dirk Schulze wrote:
On Sep 21, 2012, at 3:12 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
The only situation that might be reasonable would be a transform
on the Canvas that an author want to cover in the Path
.
Oops. Fixed.
Your other bug (about whether math and svg are supposed to get foster
parented) is also valid, but harder to fix, so I added it to the queue
but haven't fixed it yet. (The short answer is yes, they're supposed to be
foster parented.)
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).
Wouldn't that be 0.0 .. Infinity, basically?
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dimensions and positions (colours might differ). Nobody seems to
quite agree, but I can't work out what they're doing exactly (or why). The
spec seems like a pretty sane middle ground, though.
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in terms of
rules for parsing dimension values, which never returns a value less
than 1; the value 0 is treated like an error.
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Things
could just create img elements then lose references to them
when you wanted them GC'ed; if that isn't working today, I don't see why
it would start working with ImageBitmap.
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, if it is assumed to be infinite).
For clip, why isn't it possible to just say that clip() does not clip if
there is no currentPath? This would at least avoid this trap.
Fixed. Thanks.
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having implemented it is expected.
If browsers don't implement it, it'll get removed in due course. But it
would be sad for authors, who are the main concern here.
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the result will be. Zero. Firefox's behaviour is the right one.
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don't think a utility method to do this is much of a win. Maybe once
this sorting algorithm is widely implemented and we see what people do a
lot, we can consider adding things like this.
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in a system that usually
isolates origins.
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have anything that uses the interface.create() pattern.
URL.createObjectURL() is the closest, and it's not a factory.
The constructor pattern is obviously better where possible, but in this
case it's not, since it has to be async (hence Promises).
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We can never remove functionality. I don't think it's ever good to have
duplicate functionality. But in this case I think this is a non-issue.
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I guess I'm asking for JS dev input here...
Promises are just regular callbacks, with the synchronisation done by the
browser (or shim library) rather than by author code. I don't really
understand the problem here.
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used Promises, but moved away from them for
several reasons, not least because they created a 20% performance
degradation with v8:
https://github.com/gladiusjs/gladius-core/issues/127#issuecomment-5212272
I think you're massively misreading that parenthetical.
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with a script that
does have access to the DOM?
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for the same Unicode
codepoint.
Sure, but internal UA uses aren't use cases for the Web.
The use cases Peter gave over the weekend are valid, though.
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On Fri, 1 Feb 2013, Cameron McCormack wrote:
On 30/01/13 6:28 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
That's weird. heycam, can you elaborate on this? The addHitRegion()
case in particular never makes sense to be called without a dictionary
containing at least one member. Do we have to allow
filed. A few people may have
been bcc'ed who did not contribute to these threads. Please accept my
apologies for any inconvenience caused.)
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On Wed, 17 Jul 2013, Tobie Langel wrote:
On Tuesday, July 16, 2013 at 7:53 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
Can't you do window.isSameOrigin by just trying to access
window.location.href and seeing if you get an exception?
Unfortunately not, because of the previously mentioned WebKit bug which
-accelerated performance concerns, IIRC.
No, it was removed because it had no spec.
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and Blending spec is on my TODO
list. I currently owe you a response to:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-whatwg-archive/2012Dec/0229.html
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= surround, etc).
A use case can be: A user has an encoded video with multiple audio
tracks. Track 1 and 2 are both English, but one is stereo, one is
surround.
Can you elaborate on the use case? Wouldn't the browser be the one in the
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are
provided as attributes of the media element.
This seems less good than just having the browsers support all playback
speeds, e.g. by decoding into a local buffer. Why would we prefer to
expose the media's limitations rather than removing them?
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On Tue, 18 Dec 2012, Boris Zbarsky wrote:
On 12/18/12 3:53 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
Per the spec, calls that would create a new browsing context are
blocked unless called from the handler of a trusted 'click' event.
That's not web-compatible...
I don't know if the spec is overly strict
On Mon, 15 Jul 2013, Boris Zbarsky wrote:
On 7/15/13 4:44 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
Can't they just resize the window or scroll it?
It depends. It's common to open these windows non-scrollable (which UAs
usually obey) and unresizable (which they don't necessarily obey)
Fair enough
this in HTML?
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or decrease its width and height in both directions, exactly
like Flash can do it.
This seems like a presentational/styling request. I recommend approaching
the CSS working group.
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for
there to be available resources. Or, even better, to run workers in a
thread pool, and when you have more workers than threads, time share the
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of the animated class stuff from SVG), before we
start making even more changes on this front. That seems reasonable.
Anyway, whenever this gets added to Element, I'll remove it from
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with that list.
I believe feedback on this specification is intended to be sent to
public-weba...@w3.org.
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-TileColor and
msapplication-navbutton-color elements aim to fulfill this purpose in
IE by coloring the app's tile on the Windows 8 homescreen and IE's own
navigation UI, respectively.
Seems like there's already a solution, then.
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On Thu, 14 Mar 2013, Anne van Kesteren wrote:
On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 8:42 PM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote:
On 3/5/13 3:30 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
I'd be fine with having a Document descendant that is used for
Documents that have global scopes / browsing contexts / the works
with the phone number provided)
They seem to be in line with those currently in the list. Should they be
added to the spec?
Added.
BTW, the spec's list is not in alphabetical order.
Fixed.
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show the non-ASCII chars in some cases.
That's correct per spec (assuming the punycoding is required anywhere).
The latter two are set separately than document.referrer:
http://whatwg.org/html/#set-the-document's-address
If other browsers don't match this, file bugs on them. :-)
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(which give
the width height) will fire load but not error.
Right.
I agree with this, as it means the browser can defer decoding to render
time, but do we need a way in JS to confirm an image is decodable?
What's the use case? (Surely the server should check this on the server.)
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as something that, when fetched, retrieves the value
currently stored in the srcdoc attribute.
That doesn't seem defensible per the spec. In fact, the spec explicitly
says that about:srcdoc is unresolvable.
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window however I want, to be
landscape or portrait. Why wouldn't I be allowed to do the same on any
other device?
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Things that are impossible just
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Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL
http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,.
Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'
applies to a button element, the element is
# expected to render as an 'inline-block' box rendered as a button whose
# contents are the contents of the element.
-- http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#the-button-element-0
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Ian Hickson U+1047E
to be more accurate if there's a problem with it; that would be my
preference if at all possible.
See also Adam's response to the message you cite above:
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/websec/current/msg01520.html
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Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL
http
still confusing.
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Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL
http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,.
Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'
On Wed, 9 Jan 2013, TAMURA, Kent wrote:
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Fri, 7 Sep 2012, TAMURA, Kent wrote:
* For date, datetime, datetime-local, month, time, week, the
attribute returns a string in a field. If a field is text-editable
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