Re: [whatwg] Select conformance

2006-08-15 Thread Ian Hickson
On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, Henri Sivonen wrote: It still does not make it good UI. The case is similar to a set of radio buttons with no checked button. If we make bad UI non-conforming, conformance checkers will be pretty easy to write... #!/usr/bin/perl -wT use strict; print Your

Re: [whatwg] Select conformance

2006-08-15 Thread Ian Hickson
On Fri, 31 Mar 2006, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: I'm pretty sure we've been through this before -- I think it shouldn't be, ratemy*.com thinks it should be, and there are more of those sites than there are of me. :-) (Why they don't just use a set of numbered input type=submits, which

Re: [whatwg] Select conformance

2006-08-15 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 3 Apr 2006, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: At least some things clearly need to be allowed to be checked/selected and disabled at the same time. In particular, checkboxes really need this. Allowing this in some cases but not others smacks of trying to dictate UI policy for content

Re: [whatwg] Select conformance

2006-04-03 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Mar 29, 2006, at 10:15 AM, Henri Sivonen wrote: Single select: Is it conforming for an option to be both selected and disabled? (I think it shouldn't be conforming.) And analogously: Is is conforming for a radio button to be both checked and disabled if the whole set is not disabled?

Re: [whatwg] Select conformance

2006-04-01 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Mar 30, 2006, at 06:56, Alexey Feldgendler wrote: On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 01:15:38 +0700, Henri Sivonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Single select: Is it conforming for an option to be both selected and disabled? (I think it shouldn't be conforming.) I think it should be allowed. It's useful

Re: [whatwg] Select conformance

2006-04-01 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Mar 31, 2006, at 01:10, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: Is it conforming to have no option that is marked selected? (I think allowing this is safe.) I'm pretty sure we've been through this before -- I think it shouldn't be, ratemy*.com thinks it should be, and there are more of those sites

Re: [whatwg] Select conformance

2006-04-01 Thread Anne van Kesteren
Quoting Henri Sivonen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Whoa! It's even interoperably supported in Firefox and Opera. http://hsivonen.iki.fi/test/wa10/adhoc/option-selected-disabled.html It would be interesting to see what happens if it wasn't the first option element child. -- Anne van Kesteren

Re: [whatwg] Select conformance

2006-04-01 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Apr 1, 2006, at 16:18, Anne van Kesteren wrote: Quoting Henri Sivonen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Whoa! It's even interoperably supported in Firefox and Opera. http://hsivonen.iki.fi/test/wa10/adhoc/option-selected-disabled.html It would be interesting to see what happens if it wasn't the first

Re: [whatwg] Select conformance

2006-04-01 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
On Apr 1, 2006, at 11:04 PM, Henri Sivonen wrote: On Mar 30, 2006, at 06:56, Alexey Feldgendler wrote: ... I think it should be allowed. It's useful for dummy items like Select your country which is pre-selected in the dropdown with the list of countries. Whoa! It's even interoperably

Re: [whatwg] Select conformance

2006-03-30 Thread fantasai
Henri Sivonen wrote: Single select: Is it conforming for an option to be both selected and disabled? (I think it shouldn't be conforming.) I agree with that. And analogously: Is is conforming for a radio button to be both checked and disabled if the whole set is not disabled? (This one is

[whatwg] Select conformance

2006-03-29 Thread Henri Sivonen
Single select: Is it conforming for an option to be both selected and disabled? (I think it shouldn't be conforming.) And analogously: Is is conforming for a radio button to be both checked and disabled if the whole set is not disabled? (This one is harder to check, but anyway...) Is it

Re: [whatwg] Select conformance

2006-03-29 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 01:15:38 +0700, Henri Sivonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Single select: Is it conforming for an option to be both selected and disabled? (I think it shouldn't be conforming.) I think it should be allowed. It's useful for dummy items like Select your country which is