Re: [whatwg] Should address be more general-purpose?

2007-03-08 Thread fantasai
Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis wrote: An author element might kill several of these birds with one stone. I'd rather see an attribution element than an author element. It is more generally useful. ~fantasai

Re: [whatwg] Should address be more general-purpose?

2007-03-08 Thread Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
fantasai wrote: I'd rather see an attribution element than an author element. It is more generally useful. Can you explain what the difference would be? Would an attribution element include copyright holders as opposed to creators? If so, I think bundling them together makes gathering citation

Re: [whatwg] Should address be more general-purpose?

2007-02-27 Thread Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
Simon Pieters wrote: * Providing contact details of any type for any person or organisation. Would generalizing address to that extent would prevent automated agents being able to distinguish an address for a article (e.g. a blog comment) from an address mentioned in a article? This would make

Re: [whatwg] Should address be more general-purpose?

2007-02-27 Thread Simon Pieters
On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:03:49 +0100, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simon Pieters wrote: * Providing contact details of any type for any person or organisation. Would generalizing address to that extent would prevent automated agents being able to distinguish an address for

Re: [whatwg] Should address be more general-purpose?

2007-02-27 Thread Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
Simon Pieters wrote: Do UAs need to know the scope of the address? What could they do with this information? (If it is important, then we could use a class name or a new attribute for this IMHO.) Using address in this way has been difficult since it's hard for agents to infer document

Re: [whatwg] Should address be more general-purpose?

2007-02-27 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Simon Pieters [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes should address be more general-purpose? what benefit would that have, over the adr microformat? http://microformats.org/wiki/adr The latter has better granularity, allowing for street-address, locality, region,

Re: [whatwg] Should address be more general-purpose?

2007-02-27 Thread Colin Lieberman
Hi; This is my first post to the list. Andy - one of my first thoughts when reading through the HTML5 spec was that one of the benefits of dramatically improving available markup would be getting rid of the need for microformats-type approaches. With all possible respect to microformats, I

Re: [whatwg] Should address be more general-purpose?

2007-02-27 Thread Simon Pieters
On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:35:50 +0100, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Isn't it better to make address more general so that its semantics is more like how most authors use it so that it becomes a convenient styling hook for authors? [snip] I don't think it's a good

Re: [whatwg] Should address be more general-purpose?

2007-02-27 Thread Simon Pieters
On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:40:46 +0100, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Simon Pieters [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes should address be more general-purpose? what benefit would that have, over the adr microformat? http://microformats.org/wiki/adr Ease

Re: [whatwg] Should address be more general-purpose?

2007-02-27 Thread Keryx Web
Simon Pieters wrote: Ease of use, mostly. It's simpler to say: address665 3rd St.br Suite 207br San Francisco, CA 94107br U.S.A./address ...than: div class=adr div class=street-address665 3rd St./div div class=extended-addressSuite 207/div span

Re: [whatwg] Should address be more general-purpose?

2007-02-27 Thread ddailey
Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis and Simon Pieters are having a discussion that I understand (at last... at least, sort of, or at least ... I think I do) . The discussion concerns the meaning of the word address and the tag address. How much of the meaning of the word should reflect (for good or for ill)

Re: [whatwg] Should address be more general-purpose?

2007-02-27 Thread Simon Pieters
On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 04:42:58 +0100, ddailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis and Simon Pieters are having a discussion that I understand (at last... at least, sort of, or at least ... I think I do) . The discussion concerns the meaning of the word address and the tag

[whatwg] Should address be more general-purpose?

2007-02-26 Thread Simon Pieters
Posting this to the list so that it won't be forgotten. From http://forums.whatwg.org/viewtopic.php?t=5 | In HTML4, the address element was defined as this: | | | The ADDRESS element may be used by authors to supply contact | | information for a document or a major part of a document such as a