. If there is an abstract model
of Web Documents, then the rest is just a question of
serialization. What Sam Ruby is doing in fact in the discussion.
http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/HtmlVsXhtml
- HTML
- XHTML
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Le 5 déc. 2006 à 08:27, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis a écrit :
On Mon, 2006-12-04 at 15:07 +0900, Karl Dubost wrote:
Give the possibility that the textarea of a form to trigger an
editor, (A kind of setenv $EDITOR editorname)(potentially wysiwyg).
and/or implement a real wysiwyg editor for forms
to eat the document in the end.
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Le 5 déc. 2006 à 11:38, Ian Hickson a écrit :
On Tue, 5 Dec 2006, Karl Dubost wrote:
2. When people edit files locally on their filesystem (outside HTTP
world) and they put them online through FTP (outside HTTP world), to
finally reach a folder controlled by a Web server (inside HTTP
World
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Le 5 déc. 2006 à 15:09, Ian Hickson a écrit :
On Tue, 5 Dec 2006, Karl Dubost wrote:
Le 5 déc. 2006 à 05:34, Ian Hickson a écrit :
The other issue, supporting other vocabularies in HTML5, is an open
issue, but it will be addressed in due course. We need more
implementation experience first
Le 5 déc. 2006 à 22:44, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis a écrit :
On Tue, 2006-12-05 at 09:25 +0900, Karl Dubost wrote:
but there's a point that we might take into consideration: People.
People do not want spend time structuring information, only a
minority like me.
(X)HTML is clearly not for people
Le 6 déc. 2006 à 11:23, Ian Hickson a écrit :
On Wed, 6 Dec 2006, Karl Dubost wrote:
Interesting. That's something that currently can only really be done
with tables, output, and hyperlinks; I wonder if we should add a
fourth way that is more convenient for Microformat-like data.
And it's
), testcases - but I
think the discussion should be on a separate list.
+1
http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTMLAsSheAreSpoke
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.
Specifications are built on social process and they got their value
from and by this social process.
It is perfectly fine to disagree with some principles of community
building, but not with the nature of the document itself. :)
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Le 6 déc. 2006 à 11:17, Karl Dubost a écrit :
What Elias is saying is that the effort of RDFa community is
1. compatible with microformats (no changes are asked on this
front)
2. being able to relate information distributed in a document
(people do not want to have necessary
/HTMLAsSheAreSpoke
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/SVG_In_HTML_Introduction
http://www.w3.org/TR/XHTMLplusMathMLplusSVG/
!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC
-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1 plus MathML 2.0 plus SVG 1.1//EN
http://www.w3.org/2002/04/xhtml-math-svg/xhtml-math-svg.dtd;
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===
Rationale:
So people can add it in a web form, and then do in situ editing.
Metadata can be near the content when needed.
I would also propose the same for the meta element.
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Le 12 déc. 2006 à 09:24, Ian Hickson a écrit :
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006, Karl Dubost wrote:
Le 12 déc. 2006 à 07:19, Ian Hickson a écrit :
I'm not sure what the solution to this problem is.
Me neither. Suggestions welcome.
For example for hcard, you could do:
link rel=hcard href=http
and
meta in the head section. Recovering the tag soup. Though it doesn't
forbid any microformat parsers to analyze the thing in situ in the
tree. And it is still a benefit for the end user.
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which were once done.
question: why do we create specs?
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as well.)
Again sorry for the mischaracterization, but really in the need to
understand how the things are processed.
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* Date and Time Formats
http://www.w3.org/TR/NOTE-datetime
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Le 21 déc. 2006 à 11:36, William Swanson a écrit :
On 12/20/06, Karl Dubost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
An attribute to qualify semantics content seems better than adding
yet another element which will be more difficult to implement in
editing tools and more constraining.
[...]
or something like
, and Lao Niu
is putting two sharp sticks in Henri's ears. Henri is desperate
trying to read the old master tales.
The presentation is useful for understanding the structure in
*certain contexts*. It's all about context (graphics, ability,
cultural, etc.).
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. Plus a bit of manual editing.
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to be visual as well. plus the fact that the
cite can be things like
cite=urn:isbn:0671892584
And it is used on the Web, at least on my personal web site. The Web
is not only about browsers.
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is useless.
And sincerely I do not think the addition of elements will solve many
things for HTML.
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; ISBN-13: 978-0786172948
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.org/TR/css3-ruby/
Intro article
http://www.w3.org/QA/2006/02/ruby_annotation_to_change_the
Implementations? see the bottom of the intro article.
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http://www.sv15.com/img/furigana.jpg
http://wakan.manga.cz/img/shotbig/shot3.png
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Just for the record,
http://ejohn.org/blog/microformats-in-firefox-3/
Open to comments and ideas.
3.
Karl Dubost, W3C Said,
February 1, 2007 @ 2:21 am
Mike,
is there a place where you collect the comments, feedback, etc?
First times are very important and lead
don't
think XSLT is the best tool to do that, but I would be happy to hear
your thoughts about it.
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Le 6 févr. 2007 à 08:55, Karl Dubost a écrit :
Le 5 févr. 2007 à 22:40, Elliotte Harold a écrit :
Has anyone written an XSLT stylesheet that downgrades HTML 5 to
classic HTML+ appropriate div class='' and span class=''
elements? With the right CSS, this might make a lot of it
deployable
Le 8 févr. 2007 à 20:17, Nicholas Shanks a écrit :
On 6 Feb 2007, at 07:57, Karl Dubost wrote:
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/HTMLPlus/htmlplus_1.html
I wish the imagefallback/image tags had made it through the
years. It's so much better than img alt=blah and doesn't suffer
from the self-closing
is put back in the HEAD element.
Q1: Is it happening only in tag soup parsing mode?
Q2: Would a data element which has not been created yet would solve
the issue Q1?
ul
data property=dc:titleHere my caption/data
…
/ul
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of content
- magnitude
- quantity
- amount
another possibility is to use
the latine name: metrum
or the greek name: metron
or japanese: 『計器』 pronunciation: keiki (sure to not be used
elsewhere)
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consider that hN are semantically order
and using CSS counter make them visually ordered too)
It /is/ ordered. Elements of an (XML) tree are ordered (it is one of
the differences with graphs.)
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1997)
http://www.w3journal.com/5/toc.html
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of this and that. History is
not an experiment and can't be tested and proved.
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world, browsers are often considered as first class citizens,
and authoring tools as secondary. I would expect them to be on the
same level, but for this we have to make an extra effort to convince
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of HTML itself, but needed
for authoring HTML, and would need to be shared among an authoring
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to work the way they want with their files
and still communicate files between parties.
my source code layout -- T1 -- canonical form -- T2 -- your
source code layout
T1 and T2 being formatting transformation.
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be cool if the video element *just* supported theora.
Why it is not necessary good to mandate a specific format in a
specification
* When to standardize, especially an RDF API
Dan Connolly
[1] http://www.w3.org/QA/2007/03/orthogonal_specifications_is_good
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Multimedia in Web Documents (part 2)
http://www.webstandards.org/learn/articles/askw3c/may2005/
Some tests here
http://esw.w3.org/topic/ObjectTestResults
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Le 5 mars 2007 à 08:17, Anne van Kesteren a écrit :
It would also make HTMLElement.lang useful for XML documents...
(And user agents have to support and support this stuff already too.)
Interesting.
which supports for which user agents?
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/2004/01/pp-impl/40318/join
2. If you *do not work* for a W3C Member organization
http://cgi.w3.org/MemberAccess/Public
(around 2 days before you can go to next step)
http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/ieapp/
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http://www.oasis-open.org/cover/elementsAndAttrs.html
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kind of someone.
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Le 16 mars 2007 à 12:39, Ian Hickson a écrit :
Wow, what a lot of feedback on video! I've added a video element,
with
basic features, but really what we need is feedback from video
experts.
http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#video
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it.
http://www.webstandards.org/learn/articles/askw3c/may2005/object-tests/
http://esw.w3.org/topic/ObjectTestResults
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values.
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Specifically 3.1 Packaging Format
http://www.w3.org/TR/WAPF-REQ/#requirements_packaging
Best Regards
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of the content (definition)
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do not implement HTML5 will break, because they
show the alt text after the image.
Just FYI. It was not about img element in particular but about the
model.
It promotes the idea of a model ala object
This would not work for backward compatibility.
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queneau-551.php?citations
Toute forme de langage devrait être reconnue et libre
d'exister sans ironie.
/q
/p
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\201d \2018 \2019 ; }
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, but it is an
answer to multiple requests of Web authors and Web designers. The
specification is not readable for them.
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/appformats/
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for example
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2007Jul/0868
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disappeared.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIF#Unisys_and_LZW_patent_enforcement
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abbr
And what is supposed to do an automatic translator when translating
something from English to Chinese for example. Drop the markup for
acronym in some cases? Example
English
abbr title=telephoneTel./abbr: +86-10-8498-5588
Chinese
电话: +86-10-8498-5588
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Le 20 févr. 2008 à 07:36, Ian Hickson a écrit :
Indeed, I spoke with Mark about this, and he didn't seem especially
convinced that the example was convincing. :-)
http://diveintomark.org/archives/2008/02/19/all-these-years
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Committee, or Members of Advisory Board. That's all.
W3C staff is tied by a work contract and a process.
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Le 7 mai 2008 à 09:35, Ian Hickson a écrit :
Summary: profile= doesn't work in practice so we have dropped it.
wrong.
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/prrequest
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that authors can use to record metadata
and configuration parameters about a widget. The packaging format is a
container for files required by a widget.
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* speech
* talking
* converse
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the license with parsed information from the
initial page.
http://joi.ito.com/weblog/2008/08/06/board-report-fr.html#cc
There is also an CC License Validator. (in maintenance as of the time
of this email)
http://validator.creativecommons.org/
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in the social and business
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Gustavo,
Le 21 mars 2011 à 13:33, Gustavo Duenas a écrit :
Does anyone knows a good email list for html5 designers, I'm rather lost
here, this is for programmers.
The oldest of alls
http://www.webdesign-l.com/
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the values
you decide that would make sense.
HTTP Cache can already handle a lot of cases (offline/online) without even
using AppCache, specifically when it is only content.
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check ESI?
http://www.w3.org/TR/esi-lang
For example in
http://symfony.com/doc/2.0/book/http_cache.html#edge-side-includes
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the right cite with the right
blockquote and this is happening often when you write about things referring to
different sources.
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2006Dec/0016
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in the browser to
disable it.
Then it is at least 3 modifications to implement it.
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for=quoteB class=authorSusan Spellchecker/span's writings
blockquote id=quoteA
[…]
/blockquote
compare to cite for=quoteBAmazing title/cite
blockquote id=quoteB
/blockquote
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://github.com/karlcow/QuoteLink
https://addons.opera.com/addons/extensions/details/quotelink/
any suggestions for improving are welcome.
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-insensitive match for one of: _blank,
_self, _parent, or _top.
what about adding
a href=foo.pdf target=_downloadSave a Tree, Eat a beaver/a
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. A person browse flickr, find an image (still rotated), get the link and
insert it in a blog post. The image is not anymore rotated.
Why not having a full EXIF API giving access to more date and helping to fix
the dates, the location, etc. The same way you do with desktop tools?
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, or reapply the transaction
is explicitly defined by an application.
/by an application/by a(n author) script/
- (author) script transaction
ps: I would not put author personally.
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If you want example of Web sites doing responsive design
http://mediaqueri.es/
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Le 30 août 2011 à 10:51, Anne van Kesteren a écrit :
On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 16:31:59 +0200, Karl Dubost ka...@opera.com wrote:
* It is in fact an issue for being able to make the website responsive on
Mobile devices in low banwidth.
The mobile devices are the ones with the high-resolution
) replaced;}
}
[1]: http://www.w3.org/mid/4e5d4a46.7000...@jumis.com
[2]: http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-content/#replacedContent
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with an image without a javascript and/or CSS activated.
The CSS changes the image dynamically depending on the user experience context
controlled by mediaqueries.
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a dynamic site?
could you clarify?
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or the integral of the past
transferRate from the beginning?
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they are clicked on, with some GET variable that triggers an action
on the server.
http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/whenToUseGet.html
http://blog.whatfettle.com/2005/10/31/is-it-safe/
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Le 17 janv. 2012 à 19:37, Tab Atkins Jr. a écrit :
SPDY push allows the server to send down additional resources along
with the main resource, before the client actually requests them.
When you say additional resources. Is that from the same domain?
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the client can prevent that
It might seem unfortunate.
should it try
maybe.
It seems to me that somehow it is partially breaking something along
privacy/security, etc. but I may be missing something.
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h4de a href=[AUTHORLINK]
class=active[AUTHORNAME]/a/span/h4
span class=author[QUOTESOURCETITLE]/span
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://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2295
[2]:
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. But it is a
smaller group with more likely minded people.
http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-dom/
List of documents being worked on
http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-groups-all#tr_Web_Applications_Working_Group
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application/xhtml+xml, expect issues with browser market shares in some
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no ;)
[1]: https://addons.opera.com/fr/extensions/details/quotelink/?display=en
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requirements for quotations?
unrelated and orthogonal.
We are not talking about bibliographical reference model, which would by useful
by its own.
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lang=enUN/abbr
would have to become in French once translated.
acronym title=Organization des Nations Unies
lang=frONU/acronym
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family.
Basically
device != user != web service
The main point, if device ID could be available it would provide more great
possibilities for users and web-services.
And it would create big challenges in usability and privacy.
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3. Report on each browser individual issue trackers the bug.
You will help the community by doing this. Thanks.
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