Re: [whatwg] Lists, ins/del, and a

2006-08-30 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Andrew Fedoniouk wrote: Lets forget about ins or del as anyway this is better ol li class=new inversion=Some list item/li li class=removed inversion=Another list item/li /ol I don't know what the inversion attribute is supposed to mean, but the class attribute is semantically

Re: [whatwg] Lists, ins/del, and a

2006-08-30 Thread Ric Hardacre
Michel Fortin wrote: Le 29 août 2006 à 23:00, Lachlan Hunt a écrit : Michel Fortin wrote: How can we markup removed or inserted list items? Here's a general idea: ul insliSome list item/li/ins delliAnother list item/li/del /ul This can be solved by putting the ins and

Re: [whatwg] Lists, ins/del, and a

2006-08-30 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 05:51:39 +0200, Michel Fortin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The meaning of your markup is that you inserted and deleted some text within each list item, not that you added or deleted a list item like in mine. Semantically there is a difference, subtle maybe but still there.

Re: [whatwg] Lists, ins/del, and a

2006-08-30 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Ric Hardacre wrote: Another related thought we could discuss for revision control using ins and del is that they could do with a couple of attributes, a datetime http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/text.html#adef-datetime and an author: pOn a dull and dreary afternoon ins

Re: [whatwg] Lists, ins/del, and a

2006-08-30 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 09:16:54 +0200, Lachlan Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know what the inversion attribute is supposed to mean, but the class attribute is semantically meaningless. However, we could introduce the edit and datetime attributes from the XHTML 2.0 draft's Edit

Re: [whatwg] Lists, ins/del, and a

2006-08-30 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Anne van Kesteren wrote: del { display: none } you'll see a one-item list for my markup, while for your markup you'll see a second, empty list item. That could be seen as a limitation of the styling language. It has been repeated many times on this list that styling should not be taken

Re: [whatwg] Lists, ins/del, and a

2006-08-30 Thread Michel Fortin
Le 30 août 2006 à 2:49, dolphinling a écrit : What's more, it's not backwards compatible. I would *love* it if it were (especially because then fieldset could also go there, and repetition template attributes wouldn't have to apply to all elements), but current UAs turn

Re: [whatwg] Lists, ins/del, and a

2006-08-30 Thread Andrew Fedoniouk
- Original Message - From: Anne van Kesteren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WHATWG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 1:35 AM Subject: Re: [whatwg] Lists, ins/del, and a | On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 09:16:54 +0200, Lachlan Hunt | [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | I don't know what

Re: [whatwg] Lists, ins/del, and a

2006-08-30 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Lachlan Hunt wrote: we could introduce the edit and datetime attributes from the XHTML 2.0 draft's Edit Attributes Module [1]. I just realised that the datetime attribute from the Edit module would clash with the proposed datetime attribute of the t element [1]. e.g. What would the datetime

Re: [whatwg] Lists, ins/del, and a

2006-08-29 Thread James Graham
Michel Fortin wrote: (Note that everything applying to normal lists in this message could also apply to definition lists and tables.) The ongoing thread about a global href attribute versus a block-level a element made me think of a similar situation concerning ins and del. How can we markup

Re: [whatwg] Lists, ins/del, and a

2006-08-29 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 01:09:26 +0700, Michel Fortin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ul insliSome list item/li/ins delliAnother list item/li/del /ul Changing this to allow the above markup has consequences on the DOM: for instance we could no longer iterate on the content of a

Re: [whatwg] Lists, ins/del, and a

2006-08-29 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Michel Fortin wrote: How can we markup removed or inserted list items? Here's a general idea: ul insliSome list item/li/ins delliAnother list item/li/del /ul This can be solved by putting the ins and del elements as the only child nodes of the li elements instead. ul

Re: [whatwg] Lists, ins/del, and a

2006-08-29 Thread Andrew Fedoniouk
- Original Message - From: Lachlan Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michel Fortin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: whatwg List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 8:00 PM Subject: Re: [whatwg] Lists, ins/del, and a Michel Fortin wrote: How can we markup removed or inserted list items

Re: [whatwg] Lists, ins/del, and a

2006-08-29 Thread Michel Fortin
Le 29 août 2006 à 23:00, Lachlan Hunt a écrit : Michel Fortin wrote: How can we markup removed or inserted list items? Here's a general idea: ul insliSome list item/li/ins delliAnother list item/li/del /ul This can be solved by putting the ins and del elements as the only