[Wicket-user] links about wicket scalability...

2006-09-26 Thread Erik Brakkee
Hi all, A collegue of mine at a very big and slow organization is evaluating web frameworks, of which one is wicket. As expected, there is the remark that wicket is not scalable because of its use of session scope. I already gave the most important arguments, but it would be nice to have some

Re: [Wicket-user] links about wicket scalability...

2006-09-26 Thread Erik van Oosten
(Breaking my week-long self-inflicted moratorium) Erik, I am very interested in your other arguments that would interest big slow companies. Regards, Erik. Erik Brakkee schreef: Hi all, A collegue of mine at a very big and slow organization is evaluating web frameworks, of which

Re: [Wicket-user] links about wicket scalability...

2006-09-26 Thread Erik Brakkee
Ok, and don't forget the robustness. I really haven't seen any weird or unexpected behavior or wicket at all. On 9/26/06, Erik Brakkee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/26/06, Erik van Oosten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Erik,Let me rephrase the question:What arguments did you use, that would

Re: [Wicket-user] links about wicket scalability...

2006-09-26 Thread Erik Brakkee
The first argument was that not every application needs to scale to thousands of concurrent users. The second argument is that active replication is only one strategy for clustering. In practise, server affinity is also a very good option. Perhaps another argument, that I did not mention yet, is

Re: [Wicket-user] links about wicket scalability...

2006-09-26 Thread Erik van Oosten
Or this one? http://www.javalobby.org/java/forums/t70272.html Erik. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT

Re: [Wicket-user] links about wicket scalability...

2006-09-26 Thread Erik van Oosten
Hi Erik, Let me rephrase the question: What arguments did you use, that would interest big slow companies in adopting Wicket? Regards, Erik. PS. Too many Eriks in The Netherlands :) -- Erik van Oosten http://www.day-to-day-stuff.blogspot.com/

Re: [Wicket-user] links about wicket scalability...

2006-09-26 Thread Erik Brakkee
On 9/26/06, Erik van Oosten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or this one?http://www.javalobby.org/java/forums/t70272.htmlErik. Yes that was it! Thanks! - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's

Re: [Wicket-user] links about wicket scalability...

2006-09-26 Thread Dirk Markert
Erik,did you search this link?http://www.virtuas.com/articles/webframework-sweetspots.html -Dirk2006/9/26, Erik Brakkee [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, A collegue of mine at a very big and slow organization is evaluating web frameworks, of which one is wicket. As expected, there is the remark that

Re: [Wicket-user] links about wicket scalability...

2006-09-26 Thread Eelco Hillenius
Not anything downloadable I'm afraid. But here is my current brain dump on the matter. The most important question: what are your scalability needs? If you are creating a public facing web site with possibly *very* large fluctuations in user behavior, your scalability needs are way more important

Re: [Wicket-user] links about wicket scalability...

2006-09-26 Thread Eelco Hillenius
Perhaps another argument, that I did not mention yet, is that the next version of wicket will also provide other ways for storing session state. That exists today/ for 2.0 and 1.2 actually. Session represents the session state, but ISessionStore hides where the information is actually stored.

Re: [Wicket-user] links about wicket scalability...

2006-09-26 Thread Erik Brakkee
On 9/26/06, Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps another argument, that I did not mention yet, is that the next version of wicket will also provide other ways for storing session state.That exists today/ for 2.0 and 1.2 actually. Ok, thanks for the clarification. But, in my

Re: [Wicket-user] links about wicket scalability...

2006-09-26 Thread Igor Vaynberg
When can we expect to see the first alpha and beta releases for 2.0 in the maven2 repository? This would be nice for use since then we could start using it already (I don't want to distribute the jars with my project).http://maven.sateh.com/wicket/-Igor

Re: [Wicket-user] links about wicket scalability...

2006-09-26 Thread Eelco Hillenius
Good question. I'll propose on the dev list. Eelco On 9/26/06, Erik Brakkee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/26/06, Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps another argument, that I did not mention yet, is that the next version of wicket will also provide other ways for storing

Re: [Wicket-user] links about wicket scalability...

2006-09-26 Thread Eelco Hillenius
Ah, yeah. We have the snapshots to start with. Eelco On 9/26/06, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When can we expect to see the first alpha and beta releases for 2.0 in the maven2 repository? This would be nice for use since then we could start using it already (I don't want to