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I'm sorry, but that's factually incorrect. Nobody was excluded. The WMF
wrote
a report, but provided the full data to the research team. We've
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(In reply to comment #106)
(In reply to comment #105)
I'm sorry, but that's factually incorrect. Nobody was excluded. The WMF
wrote
a report, but provided the full data
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I'm summarizing your comment here to make sure I understand your issues:
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That report, published nearly
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If you want to see how the WMF is attempting to help the community achieve its
goals, see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Page_Triage as well as
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(In reply to comment #103)
If you want to see how the WMF is attempting to help the community achieve its
goals, see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Page_Triage as well as
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I'm sorry, but that's factually incorrect. Nobody was excluded. The WMF wrote
a report, but provided the full data to the research team. We've
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Sorry to interrupt but I think such problem can be solved by abuse filter.
Such
trial can be made by setting this filter for
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Sorry to interrupt but I think such problem can be solved by abuse filter. Such
trial can be made by setting this filter for non-autoconfirmed users.
Regards
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(In reply to comment #97)
Sorry to interrupt but I think such problem can be solved by abuse filter.
Such
trial can be made by setting this filter for
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(In reply to comment #98)
(In reply to comment #97)
Sorry to interrupt but I think such problem can be solved by abuse filter.
Such
trial can be made by
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(In reply to comment #99)
(In reply to comment #98)
(In reply to comment #97)
Sorry to interrupt but I think such problem can be solved by abuse
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--- Comment #82 from c...@edubkk.org 2011-09-16 07:57:57 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #80)
(In reply to comment #79)
(In reply to comment #74)
Someone editing Wikipedia in their spare time, contributing useful
information
may
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(In reply to comment #1)
Call me dumb, but don't see any strong consensus here. If we simply sum the
number of people supporting and opposing this change in principle, it will
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--- Comment #84 from c...@edubkk.org 2011-09-16 08:10:24 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #21)
To fill up everyone's inboxes just that little bit more, I think it's worth
rebutting the above inaccuracy:
Wikipedia is indeed the encyclopedia
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(In reply to comment #25)
(In reply to comment #23)
This can be done with a one-line hook, no changes in core are needed, I
think.
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--- Comment #89 from The Blade of the Northern Lights yanksinfin...@aol.com
2011-09-16 18:34:11 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #88)
(In reply to comment #82)
I've reopened this - it's long from finished. The refusal to conduct
this
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Erik Moeller, and Happy Melon,
This is indeed not the place to re-litigate a decision but I strongly
insist that there is no case for rediscussion the consensus anyway.
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(In reply to comment #88)
(In reply to comment #82)
I've reopened this - it's long from finished. The refusal to conduct
this
trial is based not on 'buckets' of
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--- Comment #92 from The Blade of the Northern Lights yanksinfin...@aol.com
2011-09-16 23:44:08 UTC ---
I too share the sentiments echoed in the above two comments.
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(In reply to comment #90)
Erik Moeller, and Happy Melon,
This is indeed not the place to re-litigate a decision but I strongly
insist that there is
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--- Comment #94 from The Blade of the Northern Lights yanksinfin...@aol.com
2011-09-17 00:00:53 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #93)
(In reply to comment #90)
Erik Moeller, and Happy Melon,
This is indeed not the place to re-litigate a
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(In reply to comment #94)
(In reply to comment #93)
(In reply to comment #90)
Erik Moeller, and Happy Melon,
This is indeed not the place to re-litigate a
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(In reply to comment #94)
8 [SNIP] 8
Furthermore, I know when I'm being patronized, as it has happened to me
innumerable times in my 21 years of
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Someone editing Wikipedia in their spare time, contributing useful
information
may not wait 4 days. They may never come back.
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--- Comment #80 from The Blade of the Northern Lights yanksinfin...@aol.com
2011-09-15 19:46:30 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #79)
(In reply to comment #74)
Someone editing Wikipedia in their spare time, contributing useful
information
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06:59:04 UTC ---
First off I should say this is being said completely as a volunteer
([[User:Jamesofur]] ) and not as a staff member in any way. The only reason
this is
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07:00:58 UTC ---
I should also mention that while I've obviously had discussions about my own
opinions on this I was not in a position to influence anything Erik was
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On what data are you basing this opinion? The specific way that new editors
will respond to various interface changes is an
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--- Comment #53 from c...@edubkk.org 2011-09-14 13:19:32 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #52)
I, too, write this as a private individual, not as a WMF contractor. I haven't
really been involved in this discussion, but something in the comments
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UTC ---
(In reply to comment #53)
I don't quite understand what you are basing this message on - it
appears
to me to be more than little off topic
A bit,
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(In reply to comment #54)
(In reply to comment #53)
I don't quite understand what you are basing this message on - it
appears
to me to be more than little off
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--- Comment #56 from c...@edubkk.org 2011-09-14 14:14:05 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #29)
We have buckets and buckets of hard data that says this change will harm the
encyclopedia. The fact that it was ignored by those who push for this
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--- Comment #57 from c...@edubkk.org 2011-09-14 16:11:43 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #51)
(In reply to comment #45)
On what data are you basing this opinion? The specific way that new editors
will respond to various interface changes is
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UTC ---
(In reply to comment #46)
The trial as proposed treats a symptom of the problem (too many bad articles
created), not the actual problem (creating articles
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Hi,
I'll post some additional thoughts later today or tomorrow, but wanted to post
a quick note just thanking everyone who's posted here, and re-stating that
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--- Comment #60 from The Blade of the Northern Lights yanksinfin...@aol.com
2011-09-14 17:28:12 UTC ---
I don't know where anyone is getting the idea that there was no clear
consensus. The proposal was closed by an admin, who made an
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(In reply to comment #58)
I just want to make sure my previous comments were not misunderstood:
Improving the editing interface is a good thing; it will
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(In reply to comment #61)
I've glanced over Erik's proposal and it seems to
address both issues, simplifying the interface and process while also
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--- Comment #63 from The Blade of the Northern Lights yanksinfin...@aol.com
2011-09-14 18:38:03 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #62)
(In reply to comment #61)
I've glanced over Erik's proposal and it seems to
address both issues, simplifying
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18:55:14 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #58)
(In reply to comment #46)
The trial as proposed treats a symptom of the problem (too many bad articles
created), not the
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Hi guys!
I think at this point it would probably be best to move this discussion off
bugzilla and onto the wiki page about the issue itself:
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I definitely agree we should be focusing on making it easier for new users to
put in pages that may not be that great, but can be expanded on by others
without being
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--- Comment #68 from The Blade of the Northern Lights yanksinfin...@aol.com
2011-09-14 21:29:15 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #66)
Hi guys!
I think at this point it would probably be best to move this discussion off
bugzilla and onto the
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(In reply to comment #68)
And in response to comment 65; the best thing to do would be to implement the
simple solution (the consensus at the above
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(In reply to comment #68)
And in response to comment 65; the best thing to do would be to implement the
simple solution (the consensus at the above mentioned RfC)
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--- Comment #71 from The Blade of the Northern Lights yanksinfin...@aol.com
2011-09-14 21:39:47 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #70)
(In reply to comment #68)
And in response to comment 65; the best thing to do would be to implement
the
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(In reply to comment #57)
(In reply to comment #51)
As I said above, I don't think that 500 editors vs. WMF is a fair
characterization of what's happening
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--- Comment #73 from The Blade of the Northern Lights yanksinfin...@aol.com
2011-09-14 21:51:49 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #72)
(In reply to comment #57)
(In reply to comment #51)
As I said above, I don't think that 500 editors vs. WMF
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(In reply to comment #73)
Huh? He never said you couldn't express your opinion. He merely said that it
takes some experience to understand why people
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(In reply to comment #73)
(In reply to comment #72)
---8 [SNIP] 8
Please stop telling people they don't have a right to express their
opinions.
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(In reply to comment #74)
[[mw:ArticleCreationWorkflow]] doesn't discuss any real solutions to the
problem, so I will not be contributing there.
I
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(In reply to comment #74)
A very nice jab at the first article I created, but your lack of knowledge is
showing. If you have any familiarity with enwiki's speedy
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--- Comment #44 from The Blade of the Northern Lights yanksinfin...@aol.com
2011-09-14 02:47:45 UTC ---
I will have more to say on this later, but what there would prevent us from
working on that with, instead of despite, this idea?
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(In reply to comment #43)
However, we believe that creating a restriction of this type is a strong a
statement of exclusion, not inclusion, and that it
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03:57:52 UTC ---
The trial as proposed treats a symptom of the problem (too many bad articles
created), not the actual problem (creating articles is wonky and
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--- Comment #47 from The Blade of the Northern Lights yanksinfin...@aol.com
2011-09-14 04:59:10 UTC ---
Don't patronize us; Snottywong put a great deal of time into drafting this, and
he's clearly frustrated at your response. I will expand on
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I know I said I was done responding, but apparently I lied.
(In reply to comment #46)
The trial as proposed treats a symptom of the problem (too many bad
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--- Comment #42 from The Blade of the Northern Lights yanksinfin...@aol.com
2011-08-16 00:53:03 UTC ---
To echo Snottywong in the comment above me, we'd love input from any or all of
the devs at [[WP:ACTRIAL]]. Your suggestions are quite
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FYI - I have started a work page for ideas on how to best implement this trial
in such a way as to minimize the frustration caused to our new users. It can
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We have buckets and buckets of hard data that says this change will harm the
encyclopedia. The fact that it was ignored by those who push for this change
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--- Comment #30 from Snottywong snottywong.w...@gmail.com 2011-08-09 06:55:58
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(In reply to comment #29)
We have buckets and buckets of hard data that says this change will harm the
encyclopedia. The fact that it was ignored by those
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(In reply to comment #30)
Please provide a link showing actual hard data (i.e. non-theoretical proof
and/or experimental evidence) which specifically
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(In reply to comment #31)
Please provide a link showing actual hard data (i.e. non-theoretical proof
and/or experimental evidence) which specifically
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--- Comment #35 from The Blade of the Northern Lights yanksinfin...@aol.com
2011-08-09 15:47:29 UTC ---
I'd also add that most experienced editors won't touch NPP because 1. it's like
drinking out of the sewer of articles (to crib from
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--- Comment #36 from Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com 2011-08-09 16:56:50 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #34)
That statistic was never intended to prove that everyone in the world has bad
faith. It was intended to show that the vast majority of
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--- Comment #39 from The Blade of the Northern Lights yanksinfin...@aol.com
2011-08-09 20:22:06 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #36)
(In reply to comment #34)
That statistic was never intended to prove that everyone in the world has
bad
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(In reply to comment #39)
I myself joined only in March 2010; I didn't
join because I saw articles that looked like shit, but because I was so
impressed
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--- Comment #27 from Snottywong snottywong.w...@gmail.com 2011-08-09 00:42:57
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(In reply to comment #24)
I understand that there's a poll that came to consensus, but we are in the
midst of a push toward editor retention, and it seems
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--- Comment #28 from Snottywong snottywong.w...@gmail.com 2011-08-09 00:46:07
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(In reply to comment #27)
I'm not saying there's any hard evidence either way, but I don't think it's
fair to say that restricting article creation to
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Just so that people realize this isn't a easy flip of a switch that some
people have been talking about. The proposal is to turn off ARTICLE SPACE ONLY
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(In reply to comment #22)
Just so that people realize this isn't a easy flip of a switch that some
people have been talking about. The proposal is to turn off
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(In reply to comment #23)
This can be done with a one-line hook, no changes in core are needed, I think.
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(In reply to comment #25)
(In reply to comment #23)
This can be done with a one-line hook, no changes in core are needed, I
think.
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--- Comment #14 from The Blade of the Northern Lights yanksinfin...@aol.com
2011-08-05 06:36:48 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #13)
I don't think there is strong enough consensus for this.
I also think it is something that will
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--- Comment #15 from Brandon Harris bhar...@wikimedia.org 2011-08-05 11:30:33
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Note to shell users: This bug is controversial; please do not implement at
this time.
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--- Comment #16 from Snottywong snottywong.w...@gmail.com 2011-08-05 14:16:42
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Frankly, I'm appalled by the way this request has been handled. You seem to be
more interested in the WMF's goals of editor engagement, and not interested
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--- Comment #17 from Chad H. innocentkil...@gmail.com 2011-08-05 14:51:24 UTC
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(In reply to comment #15)
Note to shell users: This bug is controversial; please do not implement at
this time.
There's pretty clear consensus on-wiki for
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--- Comment #18 from The Blade of the Northern Lights yanksinfin...@aol.com
2011-08-05 15:23:29 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #17)
(In reply to comment #15)
Note to shell users: This bug is controversial; please do not implement at
this
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--- Comment #19 from c...@edubkk.org 2011-08-05 18:32:32 UTC ---
Wikipedia is indeed the encyclopedia anyone can edit. There has however, never
been a policy that anyone can create new pages. If the trial delivers the
expected results, it
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Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com changed:
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--- Comment #21 from James F. ja...@jdforrester.org 2011-08-05 20:52:44 UTC
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To fill up everyone's inboxes just that little bit more, I think it's worth
rebutting the above inaccuracy:
Wikipedia is indeed the encyclopedia anyone can edit.
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--- Comment #2 from Snottywong snottywong.w...@gmail.com 2011-08-04 14:08:33
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I don't think this is the time or the place to second-guess the way the
proposal was closed by an experienced admin. Note that over 500 editors
participated,
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