Re: [Wikidata] Verifiability and living people

These are great -- and love the videos. THANK YOU -- dreams can come true! :-) - Erika *Erika Herzog* Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle * On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Magnus Manske wrote: > Sure, maybe it gets more people

Re: [Wikidata] Verifiability and living people

My concern is that I don't want to bring up anything that might be even a little negative or critical -- as I think this is a delicate issue that could have a real blow-back effect on Wikidata. It would be framed from a constructive perspective, and would reference these upcoming tools, but what

Re: [Wikidata] Verifiability and living people

On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 9:01 PM, Magnus Manske wrote: > Sure, maybe it gets more people involved in coding as well. Having thigs > show up in a "proper" way after dropping would be nice, but I'd have no idea > where to start. Ok If you write down what the exact issue

Re: [Wikidata] Verifiability and living people

Sure, maybe it gets more people involved in coding as well. Having thigs show up in a "proper" way after dropping would be nice, but I'd have no idea where to start. Speaking of: Do I suggest that new gadget on Phabricator, or a Wikidata page? Actually, I made that script a while ago, but it

Re: [Wikidata] Verifiability and living people

On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 8:06 PM, Magnus Manske wrote: > OK, this thread seems appropriate, so I just fixed up one of my scripts, it > lets you > *drag'n'drop references between statements > *drag'n'drop URL references from Wikipedia (sidebar preview) onto statements >

Re: [Wikidata] Verifiability and living people

OK, this thread seems appropriate, so I just fixed up one of my scripts, it lets you *drag'n'drop references between statements *drag'n'drop URL references from Wikipedia (sidebar preview) onto statements *drag'n'drop Wikipedia links as new statements (asks for a property to use)

Re: [Wikidata] Verifiability and living people

On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Magnus Manske wrote: > The Visual editor has a whole UI team behind it, who've been working on it > for years. Yes, citations are only a small part of it, but there is nothing > equivalent in WMF or German chapter for Wikidata, AFAIK.

Re: [Wikidata] Verifiability and living people

The Visual editor has a whole UI team behind it, who've been working on it for years. Yes, citations are only a small part of it, but there is nothing equivalent in WMF or German chapter for Wikidata, AFAIK. The Wikidata UI is improved constantly, but I don't think there is anyone, let alone a

Re: [Wikidata] Verifiability and living people

These are great, important suggestions. But like with the library science resources, it seems like Wikidata is again trying to re-invent an existing wheel. Why are the existing tools in Wikipedia not being migrated and/or pathway'd into Wikidata? The stripping of Wikipedia citations to push it to

Re: [Wikidata] Verifiability and living people

I sometimes feel that I need a "citation needed" button on claims. :) /Finn On 07/07/2016 04:12 PM, Magnus Manske wrote: While the proposal of all statements requiring citation is obviously overshooting, I believe we all agree that more/better citations improve Wikidata. One component here

Re: [Wikidata] Verifiability and living people

While the proposal of all statements requiring citation is obviously overshooting, I believe we all agree that more/better citations improve Wikidata. One component here would be a social one, namely that it first becomes good practice, then the default, to cite statements. For that, improved

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Re: [Wikidata] Verifiability and living people

I understand the intention behind the RFC but it's pretty clear that if enforced these changes would effectively ruin Wikidata. This underlying issue is that Wikidata does not have a good enough mechanism to fully cite the way Wikipedia does, and even Wikipedia does not require the type of

[Wikidata] Verifiability and living people

The current RfC: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_comment/Verifiability_and_living_persons would make massive changes to the way Wikidata operates (for all content, not just that about living people) Very few people have commented. I urge everyone to read the proposals,