[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T284882: Creating a new lexeme always asks for spelling variant for languages without an ISO 639-1 code

Arian_Bozorg closed subtask T348923: Switch Property that we use for determining available language codes as Resolved. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T284882 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Arian_Bozorg Cc:

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T284882: Creating a new lexeme always asks for spelling variant for languages without an ISO 639-1 code

Lydia_Pintscher added a comment. I've opened T348923 for switching the Property. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T284882 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Lydia_Pintscher

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T284882: Creating a new lexeme always asks for spelling variant for languages without an ISO 639-1 code

Nikki added a comment. Regardless of what the "perfect" solution should be, can it //please// at least be changed from `P218` to `P305`? Pros: - One-line change (here

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T284882: Creating a new lexeme always asks for spelling variant for languages without an ISO 639-1 code

Nikki added a comment. In T284882#8609919 , @Bugreporter wrote: >> - `P9753` has only been used on 23 items and all of the values are either BCP 47 codes or can't be used on Special:NewLexeme. > > In my opinion this means we need to

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T284882: Creating a new lexeme always asks for spelling variant for languages without an ISO 639-1 code

Bugreporter added a comment. > - `P9753` has only been used on 23 items and all of the values are either BCP 47 codes or can't be used on Special:NewLexeme. In my opinion this means we need to populate the property. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T284882 EMAIL

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T284882: Creating a new lexeme always asks for spelling variant for languages without an ISO 639-1 code

Nikki added a comment. In T284882#7912259 , @Lydia_Pintscher wrote: > So what do people think about Daniel's proposal? Would it work and be an improvement in your opinion? Reminder we are talking about this: "check P9753

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T284882: Creating a new lexeme always asks for spelling variant for languages without an ISO 639-1 code

Nikki added a comment. In T284882#7158324 , @Nikki wrote: > Also, in my experience, the way it currently behaves is extremely confusing for users and has led to multiple people thinking we don't support a language when we actually do

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T284882: Creating a new lexeme always asks for spelling variant for languages without an ISO 639-1 code

mrephabricator added a comment. I think it should always ask spelling variant. Many languages use multiple scripts and have multiple codes, and picking one automatically makes it seem like there is only one "preferred" variant. One should have the option to add a "tg" representation of a

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T284882: Creating a new lexeme always asks for spelling variant for languages without an ISO 639-1 code

Lydia_Pintscher added a comment. Thank you, Daniel! So what do people think about Daniel's proposal? Would it work and be an improvement in your opinion? Reminder we are talking about this: "check P9753 (explicit wikidata code), then fall back to

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T284882: Creating a new lexeme always asks for spelling variant for languages without an ISO 639-1 code

Bugreporter added a comment. For mis-x-Qxxx, see also T167166: Specify the use of extended language codes in Lexemes TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T284882 EMAIL PREFERENCES

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T284882: Creating a new lexeme always asks for spelling variant for languages without an ISO 639-1 code

daniel added a comment. For the record, I don't remember what specifically went into the decision to rely on ISO-639-1. I have tried to gather some information around the topic. here are some thoughts and observations: - Allowing both ISO-639-1 and ISO-639-3 would mean we'd end up with

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T284882: Creating a new lexeme always asks for spelling variant for languages without an ISO 639-1 code

Bugreporter added a comment. We now have https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P9753 for this. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T284882 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Bugreporter Cc: daniel, Denny, Mahir256,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T284882: Creating a new lexeme always asks for spelling variant for languages without an ISO 639-1 code

Lydia_Pintscher added subscribers: Mahir256, Denny, daniel. Lydia_Pintscher added a comment. @Denny @daniel Can you chime in on this? (Becoming more pressing because of the upcoming work on the rework of Special:NewLexeme and @Mahir256's comment at T298142#7585471

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T284882: Creating a new lexeme always asks for spelling variant for languages without an ISO 639-1 code

Bugreporter added a comment. Therefore there would be a proposed property dedicated to this. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T284882 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Bugreporter Cc: Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T284882: Creating a new lexeme always asks for spelling variant for languages without an ISO 639-1 code

Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE added a comment. It looks like our Brazilian Portuguese item doesn’t actually have an ISO 639-3 code statement? The only language codes I see are IETF language tag (pt-BR) and POSIX

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T284882: Creating a new lexeme always asks for spelling variant for languages without an ISO 639-1 code

Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE renamed this task from "Creating a new lexeme always asks for spelling variant for languages without an ISO 936-1 code" to "Creating a new lexeme always asks for spelling variant for languages without an ISO 639-1 code". Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE updated the task