Re: [Wikimania-l] Registration payment options

2014-06-16 Thread Jeremy Baron
On Jun 4, 2014 2:19 PM, Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com wrote: The reason people are cautious about giving out bank details is because of things like this: http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/weblog/permalink/clarksons_account_gets_hacked/ ... Wow. That's really bad. I'm surprised the

Re: [Wikimania-l] Registration payment options

2014-06-07 Thread Deror Avi
] Registration payment options Message-ID: can8a5noz7vuqs5_dh2wugx-4a8kdq0istws_wskfkdqc5eg...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 4:17 AM, Bence Damokos bdamo...@gmail.com wrote: In the interest of providing free knowledge for all(/me), how is Paypal

Re: [Wikimania-l] Registration payment options

2014-06-06 Thread Lodewijk
I'm quite disappointed to see that the UK-based wikimania team seems to have decided that everyone will have to get a credit card to be able to participate wikimania. A few years back this would indeed have stopped me from participating in Wikimania. Paypal was already a huge step for me to take -

Re: [Wikimania-l] Registration payment options

2014-06-06 Thread aude
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 8:32 AM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: I'm quite disappointed to see that the UK-based wikimania team seems to have decided that everyone will have to get a credit card to be able to participate wikimania. A few years back this would indeed have stopped me

Re: [Wikimania-l] Registration payment options

2014-06-06 Thread Andrew Gray
On 6 June 2014 08:03, aude aude.w...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like Eventbrite has made paypal a bit easier to integrate: http://help.eventbrite.com/customer/portal/articles/426298-use-paypal-to-process-orders (the openstreetmap conferences do this, using eventbrite and also allow me to send

Re: [Wikimania-l] Registration payment options

2014-06-06 Thread aude
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: On 6 June 2014 08:03, aude aude.w...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like Eventbrite has made paypal a bit easier to integrate: http://help.eventbrite.com/customer/portal/articles/426298-use-paypal-to-process-orders

Re: [Wikimania-l] Registration payment options

2014-06-06 Thread Stuart Prior
Thanks Federico for pointing that out. Best Stuart On 4 June 2014 17:24, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: Stuart Prior, 04/06/2014 16:33: there are effective and commonly used bank transfer systems in some European countries Some?

Re: [Wikimania-l] Registration payment options

2014-06-06 Thread Steffen Prößdorf
This seems very comlicated at all. Apart from this year I would very strong support the idea of Aude: In the future, we probably want a registration system (like the scholarship app) that reuses more of the fundraising infrastructure (e.g. Global Collect) and so that each year's team doesn't have

Re: [Wikimania-l] Registration payment options

2014-06-06 Thread Bence Damokos
In the interest of providing free knowledge for all(/me), how is Paypal better where credit/debit cards don't work? (I would assume you still have to get your money into Paypal somehow.) Best regards, Bence On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Stuart Prior stuart.pr...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:

Re: [Wikimania-l] Registration payment options

2014-06-06 Thread Steffen Prößdorf
Hi Bence, this may differ from country to country. In Germany I can put money on my PayPal account via credit card, wire transfer, or direct debit/withdrawal. That's why PayPal is (I know, in Germany) quite comfortable to use. Best, Steffen 2014-06-06 13:17 GMT+02:00 Bence Damokos

Re: [Wikimania-l] Registration payment options

2014-06-06 Thread Liangent
At least PayPal supports more bank card organizations. Not to say other methods like asking someone else to transfer me some money, which is obviously easier to ask someone else to provide me with their credit card info. -Liangent On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Bence Damokos bdamo...@gmail.com

Re: [Wikimania-l] Registration payment options

2014-06-06 Thread Joseph Fox
Can confirm - in the UK one can link their bank account directly to Paypal. The advantages and disadvantages of doing so are probably obvious. Joe *Joseph Fox* enwp.org/user:foxj On 6 June 2014 13:29, Steffen Prößdorf steffen.proessd...@wikimedia.de wrote: Hi Bence, this may differ from

Re: [Wikimania-l] Registration payment options

2014-06-06 Thread Ed Saperia
Joe, Increasingly we are finding that very little is obvious :-) EdSaperia Sent from my iPhone On 6 Jun 2014, at 12:31, Joseph Fox josephfoxw...@gmail.com wrote: Can confirm - in the UK one can link their bank account directly to Paypal. The advantages and disadvantages of doing so are

Re: [Wikimania-l] Registration payment options

2014-06-06 Thread Martijn Hoekstra
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 4:17 AM, Bence Damokos bdamo...@gmail.com wrote: In the interest of providing free knowledge for all(/me), how is Paypal better where credit/debit cards don't work? (I would assume you still have to get your money into Paypal somehow.) Best regards, Bence Hi Bence,

Re: [Wikimania-l] Registration payment options

2014-06-04 Thread Stuart Prior
Hi Martijn, Yes, it is the only payment option. I appreciate that there are effective and commonly used bank transfer systems in some European countries, but our administrative capacity and the booking website meant we had to settle on one method of payment. We did consider all options and

Re: [Wikimania-l] Registration payment options

2014-06-04 Thread Risker
If there is any way to include a Paypal option, I think it would be very helpful. Restriction to a credit card payment option may significantly impact younger or less wealthy attendees, particularly those not from the European/North American sphere. Even I would prefer to use Paypal because the

Re: [Wikimania-l] Registration payment options

2014-06-04 Thread Martijn Hoekstra
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Stuart Prior stuart.pr...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Hi Martijn, Yes, it is the only payment option. I appreciate that there are effective and commonly used bank transfer systems in some European countries, but our administrative capacity and the booking website

Re: [Wikimania-l] Registration payment options

2014-06-04 Thread Joseph Fox
For what it’s worth, I managed to pay with my Visa debit card from Denmark. best Joe On 4 June 2014 at 04:01:01 pm, Steffen Prößdorf (steffen.proessd...@wikimedia.de) wrote: Hi there,   we had this discussion with the attendees having a scholarship from WMDE already. In fact even in Germany

Re: [Wikimania-l] Registration payment options

2014-06-04 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Stuart Prior, 04/06/2014 16:33: there are effective and commonly used bank transfer systems in some European countries Some? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_Euro_Payments_Area Nemo ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikimania-l] Registration payment options

2014-06-04 Thread Christopher Cooper
subscription) Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Registration payment options For what it’s worth, I managed to pay with my Visa debit card from Denmark. best Joe On 4 June 2014 at 04:01:01 pm, Steffen Prößdorf (steffen.proessd...@wikimedia.de) wrote: Hi there, we had this discussion

Re: [Wikimania-l] Registration payment options

2014-06-04 Thread Joseph Fox
://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper   From: Joseph Fox [mailto:josephfoxw...@gmail.com] Sent: 04 June 2014 16:02 To: Wikimania general list (open subscription) Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Registration payment options   For what it’s worth, I managed to pay

Re: [Wikimania-l] Registration payment options

2014-06-04 Thread Michael Snow
On 6/4/2014 10:14 AM, Joseph Fox wrote: Pretty sure the difference is that in the US, “debit cards” as we Brits know them are rare. Not at all, debit cards are a routine feature for checking accounts in the US. But yes, if your debit card has a logo for one of the big payment processors, then

Re: [Wikimania-l] Registration payment options

2014-06-04 Thread Roan Kattouw
On Jun 4, 2014 10:37 AM, Michael Snow wikipe...@frontier.com wrote: On 6/4/2014 10:14 AM, Joseph Fox wrote: Pretty sure the difference is that in the US, “debit cards” as we Brits know them are rare. Not at all, debit cards are a routine feature for checking accounts in the US. But yes, if

Re: [Wikimania-l] Registration payment options

2014-06-04 Thread Richard Symonds
Roan, I don't mean to sound daft, but Chip PIN cards are (at least here) MasterCard/Visa cards with 16-digit numbers. The two are the same? The reason people are cautious about giving out bank details is because of things like this:

Re: [Wikimania-l] Registration payment options

2014-06-04 Thread Martijn Hoekstra
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 8:03 PM, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Roan, I don't mean to sound daft, but Chip PIN cards are (at least here) MasterCard/Visa cards with 16-digit numbers. The two are the same? Unfortunately (at least here), no. --Martijn The

Re: [Wikimania-l] Registration payment options

2014-06-04 Thread Risker
From the Canadian perspective, people can have credit cards (16 digit chip PIN for Visa/Mastercard, others only 16 digits) and/or bank/interact debit cards (also 16 digit chipPIN). The former are able to be used online; debit cards are for in-person transactions with very, very few exceptions.

Re: [Wikimania-l] Registration payment options

2014-06-04 Thread Maarten Dammers
Dear Stuart, Stuart Prior schreef op 4-6-2014 16:33: Yes, it is the only payment option. I appreciate that there are effective and commonly used bank transfer systems in some European countries, but our administrative capacity and the booking website meant we had to settle on one method of

Re: [Wikimania-l] Registration payment options

2014-06-04 Thread Michael Peel
Couldn't WMUK accept paypal/cheques/etc. through their standard donation mechanisms (e.g. via a special page on donate.wikimedia.org.uk) and forward them on to the Wikimania budget? Thanks, Mike On 4 Jun 2014, at 20:54, Maarten Dammers maar...@mdammers.nl wrote: Dear Stuart, Stuart Prior

Re: [Wikimania-l] Registration payment options

2014-06-04 Thread aude
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 8:41 PM, Austin Hair adh...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 8:03 PM, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: I don't mean to sound daft, but Chip PIN cards are (at least here) MasterCard/Visa cards with 16-digit numbers. The two are the same?

[Wikimania-l] Registration payment options

2014-06-03 Thread Martijn Hoekstra
Currently the only payment method for registration as far as I can find is by credit card. Are more payment options planned and/or considered? --Martijn ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org