Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communication plans for community engagement

2013-08-07 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 06.08.2013 20:03, Nathan wrote: I'll take on faith that anti-Americanism doesn't explain why you jump to this conclusion when there are many that make more sense, but how do you explain then the fact that the English Wikipedia (which, presumably, has a similar North American bias) is having

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communication plans for community engagement

2013-08-07 Thread Laura Hale
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ruwrote: Not commenting on the topic of the thread, is there any data around to show that the English Wikipedia is mainly written by North Americans (aka residents of the US and Canada)? Seems to me that it is likely to be the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communication plans for community engagement

2013-08-07 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Yaroslav M. Blanter, 07/08/2013 13:27: Not commenting on the topic of the thread, is there any data around to show that the English Wikipedia is mainly written by North Americans (aka residents of the US and Canada)? Seems to me that it is likely to be the case but not 100% obvious. Nathan

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communication plans for community engagement

2013-08-07 Thread Jane Darnell
Ah, I believe these are editor's edit-measurements based on IP address, which is something quite different from base of operation. I tend to edit pages geo-located in the US when I visit those places, and I imagine many others not based in the US do the same. The same holds for all other countries

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communication plans for community engagement

2013-08-07 Thread Mark
On 8/7/13 4:22 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: Yaroslav M. Blanter, 07/08/2013 13:27: Not commenting on the topic of the thread, is there any data around to show that the English Wikipedia is mainly written by North Americans (aka residents of the US and Canada)? Seems to me that it is likely

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communication plans for community engagement

2013-08-06 Thread Romaine Wiki
: [Wikimedia-l] Communication plans for community     engagement On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 2:08 AM, Romaine Wiki romaine_w...@yahoo.com wrote: In my opinion the liaisons failed very much with the VE, as they act like a car salesman who gives much the impression that communication is only in one

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communication plans for community engagement

2013-08-06 Thread Nathan
You argued that a North American bias, or differences between American culture and that of Europe and elsewhere, might be part of the problem in why the VE is getting a backlash on projects for European languages. I'll take on faith that anti-Americanism doesn't explain why you jump to this

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communication plans for community engagement

2013-07-26 Thread Roan Kattouw
Nathan nawrich@... writes: I think your anti-Americanism is misplaced. Let's look at some of the key people involved in the VisualEditor project. Erik is German, James F is British, Roan Kattouw is Dutch, Timo Tijhof is Dutch. If you were to skim the list of the engineering staff, they are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communication plans for community engagement

2013-07-24 Thread Romaine Wiki
In my opinion the liaisons failed very much with the VE, as they act like a car salesman who gives much the impression that communication is only in one direction: the community. They said they send our feedback to WMF but we haven't seen any results at all from that. After a month still all

[Wikimedia-l] Communication plans for community engagement

2013-07-23 Thread Nathan
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Craig Franklin cfrank...@halonetwork.net wrote: As is usually the case, I'm not saying this to have a go at the developers or anyone else involved (who are obviously doing their best), but I think that some of the communication on this topic has been a bit

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communication plans for community engagement

2013-07-23 Thread Katherine Casey
I think the Foundation is trying to make steps toward increased communication with its constituent communities with its blitz of hiring Community Liaisons. And that's a good idea, and liaisons can do a lot of good. But I don't think that program is running at 100% effectiveness yet, and back-end

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communication plans for community engagement

2013-07-23 Thread Peter Southwood
How do you propose to get people to actally read the notices? Peter - Original Message - From: Nathan nawr...@gmail.com To: cfrank...@halonetwork.net; Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 3:32 PM Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Communication plans