[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Endowment reaches initial $100 million goal and welcomes new board members

2021-10-04 Thread Lisa Gruwell
The other source of income for the endowment is investment earnings. On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 11:03 AM Andreas Kolbe wrote: > Dear Lisa and all, > > According to Meta and the just-released WMF Advancement fourth-quarter > tuning session deck, the Endowment actually passed the $100-million mark >

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Endowment reaches initial $100 million goal and welcomes new board members

2021-10-04 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Dear Lisa and all, According to Meta and the just-released WMF Advancement fourth-quarter tuning session deck, the Endowment actually passed the $100-million mark not this month, but three months ago – in June, before the start of this current financial year. The Meta page e.g. says: The

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Endowment reaches initial $100 million goal and welcomes new board members

2021-10-01 Thread Jan-Bart de Vreede
So having totally missed this news last week I have to (belatedly) agree with Christophe and SJ. Many congratulations to Lisa and the team for proposing the endowment and making it a succes. It is amazing to see how many donors have been willing to contribute to reaching this milestone so

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Endowment reaches initial $100 million goal and welcomes new board members

2021-09-28 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Again, your English Wikipedia background shows. Wikipedia exists in 200+ languages, knowledge panels in English are of interest to some 50% of our public. The aggregated data at Wikidata is able to service all the languages we support. For the nds.wikipedia.org just recently, it was announced

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Endowment reaches initial $100 million goal and welcomes new board members

2021-09-27 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Thanks, Mike. My comments about Denny were definitely off the mark in one respect: in the 2012 snippet I was quoting, Denny was already arguing for CC0. What changed was that at that time, Denny felt and said that CC0-licensed Wikidata would not (and should not) extract content out of ShareAlike

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Endowment reaches initial $100 million goal and welcomes new board members

2021-09-27 Thread Mike Peel
Hi Andreas and Cunctator, I partially agree with you with the WMF's budget and fundraising. It's a lot of money that is being raised, and there seems to be a big disconnect between the fundraising messages being used and the actual expenditure. The money is being well spent and on worthwhile

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Endowment reaches initial $100 million goal and welcomes new board members

2021-09-27 Thread The Cunctator
Congratulations on developing a useful service for the most profitable and powerful corporations on the planet. On Sun, Sep 26, 2021 at 2:34 AM Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > Facts are in and of themselves not copyrightable. Collections of data may > be copyrighted.We choose not to and as a

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Endowment reaches initial $100 million goal and welcomes new board members

2021-09-27 Thread Andreas Kolbe
The Cunctator's point about Wikidata's copyright-free CC0 licence is actually one issue that I had meant to include in the list of WMF ethical lapses in my other post . Wikidata has imported very large amounts of content from Wikipedia, which, as The Cunctator points out, has a Creative Commons

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Endowment reaches initial $100 million goal and welcomes new board members

2021-09-26 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Facts are in and of themselves not copyrightable. Collections of data may be copyrighted.We choose not to and as a result Wikidata is the powerhouse that it has become.The CC-by-sa license is our license of choice for Wikipedia however, the way it has been enforced so far has been defensive,

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Endowment reaches initial $100 million goal and welcomes new board members

2021-09-25 Thread The Cunctator
Sorry for not being explicit; the connection is that protection of copyleft would be inconvenient to major endowment donors such as Google and Amazon. WikiData is a Wikimedia project that converts copylefted content into (what Wikimedia asserts to be) copyright-free content. On Thu, Sep 23, 2021

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Endowment reaches initial $100 million goal and welcomes new board members

2021-09-24 Thread Vi to
Wording could had been better, but it's not an attack. Nobody blames fundraising people for their ability, not even the sense of urgency in banners is their fault in absence of an explicit guideline. Andreas pointed out a problem which lies in the performance indicators of fundraising along with

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Endowment reaches initial $100 million goal and welcomes new board members

2021-09-24 Thread Christophe Henner
I will answer to the end of your email only as it shocked me. Le ven. 24 sept. 2021 à 10:33 AM, Andreas Kolbe a écrit : > > No doubt the architects of this development will eventually leave the WMF > with résumés highlighting by how much they increased revenue over > such-and-such an amount of

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Endowment reaches initial $100 million goal and welcomes new board members

2021-09-24 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Phoebe, You say, "Vito -- Good meme usage. I can't find the perfect meme to answer so I'll just say that (as I expect you know) the endowment is meant to support the projects in perpetuity, which means it isn't there to replace daily operation funding or annual fundraising. The 100M is meant to

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Endowment reaches initial $100 million goal and welcomes new board members

2021-09-24 Thread Vi to
I know the purpose of the endowment, but our fundraising relies upon a sense of urgency which is, simply, fake. It was already not true before, but now that we have a massive endwoment it became even more untrue. I was once told "I see Wikipedia is in a financially dire situation" "heck! where did

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Endowment reaches initial $100 million goal and welcomes new board members

2021-09-24 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
iling List Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Endowment reaches initial $100 million goal and welcomes new board members Thanks Christophe, SJ and all! Lisa, agreed - it's taken a lot of work over the years from many people to get here. A big thanks to all of the endowment staff past a

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Endowment reaches initial $100 million goal and welcomes new board members

2021-09-23 Thread phoebe ayers
Thanks Christophe, SJ and all! Lisa, agreed - it's taken a lot of work over the years from many people to get here. A big thanks to all of the endowment staff past and present and especially to you Lisa, who has been there as an advocate from the very beginning "what if we made an endowment?!"

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Endowment reaches initial $100 million goal and welcomes new board members

2021-09-23 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Thu, 23 Sept 2021 at 19:27, The Cunctator wrote: > It's really disappointing to me that the Structured Data work has been used > to blow up Wikipedia's copyleft. 1. Your message has nothing to do with the endowment 2. You offer no evidence that "the Structured Data work has been used to

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Endowment reaches initial $100 million goal and welcomes new board members

2021-09-23 Thread Vi to
Great now but now... (https://imgflip.com/i/5o0v9y if you don't want to download the attached picture) Vito ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Endowment reaches initial $100 million goal and welcomes new board members

2021-09-23 Thread The Cunctator
It's really disappointing to me that the Structured Data work has been used to blow up Wikipedia's copyleft. On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 1:20 PM Lisa Gruwell wrote: > Thank you, Christophe and SJ. You both were great supporters of this > effort when you were on the WMF board and it wouldn't have

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Endowment reaches initial $100 million goal and welcomes new board members

2021-09-23 Thread Lisa Gruwell
Thank you, Christophe and SJ. You both were great supporters of this effort when you were on the WMF board and it wouldn't have gotten off the ground without you. It takes a lot of vision and trust to do something long-term like an endowment. Thanks for giving that to us! Best, Lisa On Thu,

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Endowment reaches initial $100 million goal and welcomes new board members

2021-09-23 Thread Christophe Henner
Congratulations Lisa and team, I know how much energy you pour into it! That is an amazing step. And great to see the endowment becoming its own organization. And "welcome" to the "new" endowment board members! :) Few people might know Doron, but he is not a stranger. He has been supporting the

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Endowment reaches initial $100 million goal and welcomes new board members

2021-09-22 Thread Samuel Klein
Wonderful news, and an amazing set of board members. Thanks to the team for making the endowment a steady and growing pillar of support, and tending to its governance too with care :)  On Wed., Sep. 22, 2021, 10:58 a.m. Lisa Gruwell, wrote: > Dear all, > > Today I am very happy to announce

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Endowment reaches initial $100 million goal and welcomes new board members

2021-09-22 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
Thanks Lisa for the information. Now that we have $100 millions, let's see if we can hire someone to solve our technology, design and community wishes enormous lag. It may be a good inversion. Thanks Galder From: Lisa Gruwell Sent: Wednesday, September 22,