Subscribe Pada tanggal 7 Jan 2019 19.00, <wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org> menulis: > > Send Wikimedia-l mailing list submissions to > wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wikimedia-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wikimedia-l digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Invitation to organize Wiki Loves Love 2019 + to translate > (Romaine Wiki) > 2. Re: Blocks which appear to demonstrate prejudice against > minorities (Vi to) > 3. Wikimedia+Education Conference registration is now open > (Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga) > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Romaine Wiki <romaine.w...@gmail.com> > To: Wikimedia <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2019 11:57:55 +0100 > Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Invitation to organize Wiki Loves Love 2019 + to translate > *Wiki Loves Love > < https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Love_2019 >* > (WLL) is an International photography competition of Wikimedia Commons > happening in the month of February 2019 to document love testimonials. > > The primary goal of the competition is to document love testimonials > through human cultural diversity such as monuments, ceremonies, snapshot of > tender gesture, happenings like Valentine's Day, and miscellaneous objects > used as symbol of love; to illustrate articles in the worldwide free > encyclopedia Wikipedia, and other Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) projects. > February is around the corner and Wiki Loves Love team invites you to > organize and promote WLL19 in your country and join hands with us to > celebrate love and document it on Wikimedia Commons. The theme of 2019 > is *Festivals, > ceremonies and celebrations of love*. > > To organize Wiki Loves Love in your region, sign up at WLL Organizers > <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Love_2019/Organise> > page. You can also simply support and spread love by helping us translate > < https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Love_2019 > > the Commons page in your local language which is open for translation > < https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Love_2019/Translations >. > > > The contest runs from 1-28 February 2019. Independent from if there is a > local contest organised in your country, you can help by making the photo > contest Wiki Loves Love more accessible and available to more people in the > world by translating the upload wizard, templates and pages to your local > language. See for an overview of templates/pages to be translated at > our Translations > page > < https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Love_2019/Translations >. > > > Imagine...The sum of all love! > > Wiki Loves Love team > < https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Love_2019/International_Team > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Vi to <vituzzu.w...@gmail.com> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2019 12:03:44 +0100 > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocks which appear to demonstrate prejudice against minorities > The lobby of high voltage warning signs disagrees. > > Vito > > Il giorno lun 7 gen 2019 alle ore 11:37 Yaroslav Blanter <ymb...@gmail.com > > ha scritto: > > > Well, in 2019 people should already have come to the notion that blocking > > locally an acting steward is not really a good idea. > > > > Cheers > > Yaroslav > > > > On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 11:21 AM Vi to <vituzzu.w...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Because of a truly great idea > > > < > > > > > https://am.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E1%88%8D%E1%8B%A9:Log/block&page=%E1%8A%A0%E1%89%A3%E1%88%8D%3ATeles > > > > > > > the involved user's admin/bureaucrat access was revoked > > > < > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=rights&user=&page=Codex+Sinaiticus%40amwiki&wpdate=&tagfilter=&subtype= > > > > > > > by Marco Aurelio. > > > > > > Vito > > > > > > Il giorno lun 7 gen 2019 alle ore 11:02 Amir Sarabadani < > > > ladsgr...@gmail.com> > > > ha scritto: > > > > > > > Given the response on the talk page [1] I think it's clear violation of > > > > nondiscrimination policy [2] > > > > > > > > [1] "promotion of homosexuality will not be tolerated here nor will it > > be > > > > forced down our throats to suit anyone's international political agenda > > > if > > > > you expect Ethiopians to take part." > > > > [2] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:Nondiscrimination > > > > > > > > Best > > > > On Wed, Jan 2, 2019, 23:09 Risker <risker...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I note that we are talking about the block of one single user on one > > > > > single project; this particular account has thousands of edits over > > > > about a > > > > > dozen projects, but is "attached" to hundreds of Wikimedia projects. > > > The > > > > > majority of these "attached" accounts are likely because the editor > > > > > "visited" the various projects while logged in, activating the > > > automatic > > > > > account creation algorithm. The account was created 8 years ago, and > > > has > > > > > actively edited a wide variety of projects, including several > > > > wikipedias, > > > > > Commons, Wikidata, and Meta. While English Wikipedia is the account's > > > > > "home" wiki, about 55% of the account's global edits have been made > > on > > > > > Marathi Wikipedia. The Amharic Wikipedia account does not appear to > > > have > > > > > edited, which suggests that it was automatically created when the > > > editor > > > > > was "looking at" the project on 9 February 2018. The block for > > > account > > > > > name was made on 22 October 2018. I note that accounts were created > > on > > > > > over a hundred projects over the course of a few days in February > > 2018. > > > > > > > > > > The point being raised in this thread is that it appears this editor > > > was > > > > > blocked on one of the 381 wikis on which they have an account, > > > explicitly > > > > > because of the perception that their username calls attention to the > > > > sexual > > > > > behaviour of the editor. What we do not know is (a) whether that is > > in > > > > fact > > > > > a legitimate username block reason on Amharic Wikipedia, or (b) if it > > > is > > > > a > > > > > legitimate username block reason, *why* it would be a username block > > > > > reason. We don't know why this block was applied so long after the > > > > account > > > > > was created. We don't know the username policy on Amharic Wikipedia, > > > nor > > > > do > > > > > we know how it is applied; for example, we don't know if a username > > > like > > > > > "StraightGuy101" would be blocked. We do know that there are only 4 > > > > > administrators on Amharic Wikipedia, and that there are fewer than 50 > > > > > active users working on the project, which may be part of the reason > > > for > > > > > the delay between automatic account creation and the account block. > > > > > > > > > > We also know that one of the challenges of single user login for all > > > > > Wikimedia projects has highlighted the fact that certain usernames > > that > > > > are > > > > > acceptable on some projects are blocked on other projects; we've > > known > > > > that > > > > > for years. We know that each project establishes its own policies > > when > > > it > > > > > comes to usernames. There are legitimate reasons why a username that > > is > > > > > acceptable in one language is not acceptable in another language, > > even > > > in > > > > > cases where the editor had no knowledge that the chosen username > > would > > > > be a > > > > > problem in another language. We do know that there have been lots of > > > > cases > > > > > where usernames have been blocked for "username policy violation" on > > > all > > > > > kinds of projects, despite the account operating productively on > > other > > > > > projects. > > > > > > > > > > I also note that there is nothing in this thread that confirms the > > > editor > > > > > themself has raised any concerns about this block, and I am always > > wary > > > > of > > > > > turning an editor into a "martyr for a cause" without their direct > > > > > agreement, as that can be as abusive as the original action. So the > > > first > > > > > step in this situation would be to confirm with the individual editor > > > > > whether or not they want their "case" to be examined. > > > > > > > > > > Should the editor be agreeable, I suggest that the next step is for > > > > someone > > > > > who has the ability to converse in Amharic to contact the Amharic > > > > Wikipedia > > > > > and find out why the block has been issued, how it is consistent with > > > the > > > > > username policy on Amharic Wikipedia, whether that policy is driven > > in > > > > part > > > > > by external considerations (e.g., does the project risk heavy > > > > governmental > > > > > scrutiny if it appears to "promote" locally unacceptable > > activities). I > > > > am > > > > > personally curious as to why it took over six months to identify that > > > > this > > > > > account did not meet the local username policy, and whether there was > > > > > internal or external discussion about the username. > > > > > > > > > > It is not clear to me what the desired outcome is in this case - at > > > least > > > > > in part because we have no idea of the opinion of the editor > > > involved. I > > > > > am hard-pressed to say that a project should be required to allow > > > > usernames > > > > > that it has a long history of considering unacceptable, especially if > > > it > > > > is > > > > > applied evenly to all accounts; in this case, if it disallows > > usernames > > > > > that imply sexual preference regardless of what that preference is. > > > > > > > > > > It seems to me that the WMF Trust & Safety group would probably be > > the > > > > > right group to examine this. > > > > > > > > > > Risker/Anne > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2 Jan 2019 at 09:42, Ariel Glenn WMF <ar...@wikimedia.org> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Additional notes: > > > > > > The user's regular page can be viewed on en wikipedia: > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:QueerEcofeminist > > > > > > Queer may have to do with gender identity as opposed to being an > > > > > indicator > > > > > > of 'sexual behavior', so the blockers didn't even get that right. > > > > > Example: > > > > > > I am gender-nonconforming as to my gender identity and expression; > > > this > > > > > is > > > > > > the primary reason I use the label 'queer'. > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe this should be reported... somewhere. But I don't know > > > where. > > > > > The > > > > > > WMF CoC only covers technical spaces. A little help here? > > > > > > > > > > > > Ariel > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 4:26 PM Fæ <fae...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do we have cross project policies to govern or limit local > > policies > > > > > > > for the use of sysop tools? I would like to pass on policy > > advice, > > > > and > > > > > > > any past cases folks here would like to highlight that set a > > > > > > > precedent. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The case below is illustrative, though based on my recall of > > > several > > > > > > > complaints which went nowhere over the years, on email lists, and > > > > > > > Jimmy's talk page, about apparently arbitrary blocks on different > > > > > > > non-English Wikipedias, it seems reasonable to believe those > > > > > > > complaints are the tip of the iceberg, and there are likely to be > > > > many > > > > > > > historical cases of blocks that could have been appealed... had > > the > > > > > > > user been confident to complain in English, and have the energy > > to > > > > > > > pursue generic WMF policies on terms of use, or > > > > > > > harassment/discrimination, to establish a meta-level case. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > # Example case > > > > > > > > > > > > > > An account block on the Amharic Wikipedia (am.wp) was flagged up > > > > > > > yesterday on the WM LGBT+ Telegram discussion group.[3] The > > > rationale > > > > > > > for blocking the account was because the account name includes > > the > > > > > > > word "Queer"[1]. The incident raises questions about process and > > > > > > > accountability, particularly as the block gives the impression > > that > > > > > > > this is the norm or an agreed interpretation of policy for sysops > > > on > > > > > > > am.wp, and because the user is well established using this > > account > > > > > > > name across Wikimedia projects and has never edited am.wp so the > > > > block > > > > > > > cannot be based on any prior action or dispute. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In this example there is no obvious process for appeal, if sysops > > > on > > > > > > > that project think that blocking any LGBT+ related account name > > > > > > > represents local consensus. After off-wiki discussion, the WMF > > > Trust > > > > > > > and Safety team has been approached for advice,[2] as the > > rationale > > > > > > > for the action appears hostile to any openly LGBT+ volunteers who > > > > > > > might want to include something queer looking in their account > > name > > > > > > > (such as my account name, should anyone want to read it as > > > > transgender > > > > > > > related). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > # Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://am.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E1%88%8D%E1%8B%A9:Contributions/QueerEcofeminist > > > > > > > ; > > > > > > > the block log states "Names calling attention to your sexual > > > behavior > > > > > > > have never been allowed here in 15 years and aren't suddenly > > > allowed > > > > > > > in 2018" > > > > > > > 2. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Trust_and_Safety > > > > > > > 3. https://telegram.me/wmlgbt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > Fae > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae > > > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_LGBT+ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > > > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > > > > Unsubscribe: > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org > > > ?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > > > Unsubscribe: > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org > > ?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > > Unsubscribe: > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org ?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga" <galder...@hotmail.com> > To: "wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org" <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2019 11:10:38 +0000 > Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia+Education Conference registration is now open > Dear Wikimedians, > The very fist Wikimedia+Education Conference will be organized this April in Donostia, Basque Country. We have received more than 50 programme proposals so far, and registration is now open. 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