Hi All:
A quick update on this - it appears to be a little complex for the
Chapter for multiple reasons:
1. Importance : How important is this to Indian Wikimedians? Is it a
real and serious problem faced? Or is it something that is nice to
have but not essential? Could we do better work if we
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org wrote:
Hi Yann:
Thanks much for this.
It's nice to know that ISPs are the same the world over and do more
than they are asked to do. *sigh*
More to the point, the kind of action initiated by Gallimard, exceeding the
On 30 August 2011 11:19, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote:
The only threat I can see is the proposal to the GOI to unilaterally push
back public domain dates to fall in conformity with EU guidelines. Gautam
had circulated a post about this some time ago. If that happens, this idea
Hey All:
A first draft is here:
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/WikiSource_and_Commons_Hosted_in_India
Would appreciate your comments and edits on the Wiki, please, to help
flesh this out.
Thank you.
Best,
Gautam
http://blog.prathambooks.org/p/social-media.html
The only threat I can see is the proposal to the GOI to unilaterally push
back public domain dates to fall in conformity with EU guidelines. Gautam
had circulated a post about this some time ago. If that happens, this idea
gets shelved. We may consider the Canada option at the moment.
Warm
Hello,
2011/8/28 Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org:
Hi Yann:
I was wondering if you could send us some details on what it would
take to maintain Wikilivres please? Technology and costs.
Wikilivres is currently hosted on a small dedicated server in Montreal, Canada.
It follows the Canadian
On 28 August 2011 11:50, Yann Forget yan...@gmail.com wrote:
Wikilivres is currently hosted on a small dedicated server in Montreal,
Canada.
It follows the Canadian copyright law, in which a work is in the
public domain 50 years after the author's death.
Thanks.
It costs 74 US$ monthly,
2011/8/28 Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org:
On 28 August 2011 11:50, Yann Forget yan...@gmail.com wrote:
Wikilivres is currently hosted on a small dedicated server in Montreal,
Canada.
It follows the Canadian copyright law, in which a work is in the
public domain 50 years after the
On 28 August 2011 12:08, Yann Forget yan...@gmail.com wrote:
I see several possibilities:
Thank you. Will get back soon on this.
Best,
Gautam
http://blog.prathambooks.org/p/social-media.html
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On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Arjuna Rao Chavala arjunar...@gmail.comwrote:
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.comwrote:
By hosting a WikiSource outside of the US and in the jurisdiction of
the country.
This is not limited to Wikisource. Wikimedia
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Arjuna Rao Chavala
arjunar...@gmail.com wrote:
The advantage of separately hosted Wikisource is that the artefacts are self
contained and can be used readily. Photographic media will be mainly useful,
when they are embedded in an article. May be non WMF
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Nagarjuna G nagar...@gnowgi.org wrote:
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Arjuna Rao Chavala
arjunar...@gmail.com wrote:
The advantage of separately hosted Wikisource is that the artefacts are
self
contained and can be used readily. Photographic media will
Hoi,
Why not take over Wikilivres from Yann and make it your project. Maybe you
can do one better and cooperate with other chapters on this project. There
are already main[pages in several languages... Australia and Canada come to
mind..
I did blog about it..
+1 to Gerard's Idea
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur
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On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 11:55 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hoi,
Why not take over Wikilivres from Yann and make it your project. Maybe you
can do one better and
Indeed!
Will email Yann and see what we can do.
Thank you.
Best,
Gautam
http://blog.prathambooks.org/p/social-media.html
On 28 August 2011 00:10, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote:
+1 to Gerard's Idea
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur
So here's a question - given that there is much content that is out of
copyright in India but not necessarily in other parts of the world, is
there any sense in looking to create an Indian Wikisource for content
that is out of copyright here?
Thank you.
Best,
Gautam
Can't we use the existing Wikisources (available in different languages
including English) for the same?
Or, Gautham, are you proposing something else?
Shiju
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.orgwrote:
So here's a question - given that there is much content
Currently Wikipedia projects are hosted in US and all media files uploaded
to these projects should be copyright free in the source country of origin
and also in US.
If we need to upload media files out of copyright in India but still
copyrighted in US, I am afraid, the servers need to be hosted
Shiju and Sreejith:
Currently Wikipedia projects are hosted in US and all media files uploaded
to these projects should be copyright free in the source country of origin
and also in US.
If we need to upload media files out of copyright in India but still
copyrighted in US, I am afraid, the
Sreejith's point is what I was wondering about. Is there value in
this? Something that the Chapter might consider?
So what you propose is not a new project, but to have servers in India for
the projects with India related content? Infact most of the projects,
including commons and meta, have
On 26 August 2011 12:52, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.com wrote:
So what you propose is not a new project, but to have servers in India for
the projects with India related content? Infact most of the projects,
including commons and meta, have India related content.
I am not sure how much
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org wrote:
Shiju and Sreejith:
Currently Wikipedia projects are hosted in US and all media files uploaded
to these projects should be copyright free in the source country of origin
and also in US.
If we need to upload media
Specifically a WikiSource server
of sorts, hosted in India, exclusively for content that is out of
copyright in India only.
As far as I know, *the content that is that is out of copyright in India
now* can be uploaded to the existing wikisources.
Can you cite some examples for which this is
On 26 August 2011 12:57, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote:
Wherever this new 'Wikisource' is located, the chapter needs to be
careful to ensure it maintains the high standards of copyright
compliance that Wikisource achieves.
Indeed!
Thank you, John
Best,
Gautam
On 26 August 2011 12:57, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.com wrote:
As far as I know, the content that is that is out of copyright in India now
can be uploaded to the existing wikisources.
Citing Sreejith above.
Currently Wikipedia projects are hosted in US and all media files
uploaded to
Wikisource already has a Commonwealth copyright wikisource
it is called Wikilivres, and it is hosted in Canada.
http://www.wikilivres.info/
On that website you will find many examples of works which are illegal
to distribute on US servers.
Whenever English Wikisource finds a work which is
Gautam, any idea what happened to that blanket public domain extension plan
of Govt of India which was posted some months back?
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur
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On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.orgwrote:
On 26
I think it's a great idea!
Alternatively, we could pool in resources with chapters / communities in
regions which have minimal copyright restrictions so that they can legally
host the content on their websites which will be accessible around the
world. I would suggest jurisdictions which comply
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.com wrote:
Specifically a WikiSource server
of sorts, hosted in India, exclusively for content that is out of
copyright in India only.
As far as I know, the content that is that is out of copyright in India now
can be uploaded
On 26 August 2011 13:08, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote:
Wikisource already has a Commonwealth copyright wikisource
it is called Wikilivres, and it is hosted in Canada.
On that website you will find many examples of works which are illegal
to distribute on US servers.
Whenever
On 26 August 2011 13:11, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote:
Gautam, any idea what happened to that blanket public domain extension plan
of Govt of India which was posted some months back?
Pranesh, is ahem, working on it.
Thank you.
Best,
Gautam
Hello,
2011/8/26 Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org:
On 26 August 2011 13:08, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote:
Wikisource already has a Commonwealth copyright wikisource
it is called Wikilivres, and it is hosted in Canada.
On that website you will find many examples of works which
On 26 August 2011 13:18, Yann Forget yan...@gmail.com wrote:
AFAIK, all what is PD in India is also PD in Canada, but not the opposite.
Canadian law says that what is PD elsewhere is also PD in Canada (law
of shorter term).
Canadian law is 50 years pma, while Indian law is 60 years pma,
Hello,
2011/8/26 Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org:
On 26 August 2011 13:18, Yann Forget yan...@gmail.com wrote:
AFAIK, all what is PD in India is also PD in Canada, but not the opposite.
Canadian law says that what is PD elsewhere is also PD in Canada (law
of shorter term).
Canadian law
On 26 August 2011 13:34, Yann Forget yan...@gmail.com wrote:
Actually I am looking for some people and/or organisation to take over
the project,
as I have no time and money to continue it myself.
Yann, I don't know what it entails but perhaps it is something the
Chapter might consider?
Thank
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 12:57 PM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org
wrote:
Shiju and Sreejith:
Currently Wikipedia projects are hosted in US and all media files
uploaded
to these projects should be copyright
The best example is Gandhi
Many of his works, and translations of them, are not public domain in
the United States.
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Author:Mohandas_K._Gandhi
http://www.wikilivres.info/wiki/Mohandas_K._Gandhi
In this case, much content that reside in many Indic language
On 26 August 2011 14:21, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.com wrote:
In this case, much content that reside in many Indic language wikisources,
few images in Wikimedia Commons, and may be some works in English wikisource
are also against US copyright law. So how can we overcome this issue?
I
By hosting a WikiSource outside of the US and in the jurisdiction of
the country.
This is not limited to Wikisource. Wikimedia Commons is definitely in the
list, and may be some other projects also.
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.orgwrote:
On 26 August
True. Worth exploring?
Thank you.
Best,
Gautam
(handheld)
On Aug 26, 2011 2:46 PM, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.com wrote:
By hosting a WikiSource outside of the US and in the jurisdiction of
the country.
This is not limited to Wikisource. Wikimedia Commons is definitely in the
list,
Very good points, Anirudh.
Thank you.
Best,
Gautam
(handheld)
On Aug 26, 2011 1:11 PM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote:
I think it's a great idea!
Alternatively, we could pool in resources with chapters / communities in
regions which have minimal copyright restrictions so that they
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.comwrote:
By hosting a WikiSource outside of the US and in the jurisdiction of
the country.
This is not limited to Wikisource. Wikimedia Commons is definitely in the
list, and may be some other projects also.
The advantage
Good conversation. Very helpful to me to practice copy-right laws.
Go on guys. :)
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