Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

2016-12-15 Thread Roger Bamkin
Thanks Deryk, there seems to be some deep feelings on this one. There seems to some suspicion that there is a conspiracy to raise the profile of women on Wikipedia. well they are right! However that doesn't mean to say that we want to ignore the rules. I recently wrote an article about a

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

2016-12-09 Thread Gordon Joly
On 09/12/16 11:10, Andrew West wrote: > the lists are notable > and of public interest because they have been featured in TV > programmes, And radio too! :-) Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

2016-12-09 Thread Roger Bamkin
Thanks Lucy On 5 December 2016 at 14:41, Lucy Crompton-Reid < lucy.crompton-r...@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote: > Dear all > > As I know some of you will already be aware, Wikimedia UK, Women in Red > and Wikimedia editors and communities around the world are partnering with > BBC 100 Women to raise

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

2016-12-09 Thread
Fortunately nobody is suggesting deletion :-) However there is a good learning point for future projects, in that on any start of a project the question of copyright needs to be taken on, to ensure all possible tees are crossed and ies dotted so that volunteers can avoid getting bogged down in

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

2016-12-09 Thread Andrew West
On 9 December 2016 at 10:49, Richard Nevell wrote: > That's interesting. How was the issue handled with A History of the World in > 100 Objects a few years back? I don't think that the issue was ever mentioned by anyone. In cases like [[A History of the World in

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

2016-12-09 Thread Richard Nevell
That's interesting. How was the issue handled with *A History of the World in 100 Objects* a few years back? On 9 December 2016 at 10:13, Fæ wrote: > See [1], in short if a list can be created by repeatable analysis of > data, then it's not copyrightable, otherwise, by

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

2016-12-09 Thread Lucy Crompton-Reid
Thanks Fae, this is super helpful! By 'legal clarity' I meant 'will talk to people in the community who know more about this than I do', rather than 'see a lawyer' :) Will follow up early next week. Cheers Lucy On 9 December 2016 at 10:13, Fæ wrote: > See [1], in short if a

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

2016-12-09 Thread
See [1], in short if a list can be created by repeatable analysis of data, then it's not copyrightable, otherwise, by definition, it must have subjective creativity and so is copyrightable. The 100 women list is not independently repeatable, so to be published on Wikipedia without future risk of

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

2016-12-09 Thread Lucy Crompton-Reid
Hi all There does seem to be some disagreement as to whether copyright is actually an issue in the case of the list of 100 women. I will be doing quite a lot of follow up with the BBC over the next few weeks so am happy to add this to my list of things to discuss, however I will try to seek legal

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

2016-12-08 Thread Gordon Joly
On 08/12/16 17:32, Michael Peel wrote: > An interesting question that could do with a speedy response (and maybe > a copyright release email from the BBC to OTRS) has been posted at: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:100_Women_(BBC)#Is_it_not_a_copyright_violation_to_publish_this_list.3F >

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

2016-12-08 Thread Lucy Crompton-Reid
milar in lots of ways... > > > Sara > > > -- > *From:* Wikimediauk-l <wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org> on > behalf of Roger Bamkin <victuall...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* 08 December 2016 19:36 > *To:* wikimediauk-l > *Subject:*

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

2016-12-08 Thread Sara Thomas
Bamkin <victuall...@gmail.com> Sent: 08 December 2016 19:36 To: wikimediauk-l Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia The editors in London who had editor support did very well. We trained lots of very bright people. I know that we've had dozens in other languages and we had newbi

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

2016-12-08 Thread Roger Bamkin
The editors in London who had editor support did very well. We trained lots of very bright people. I know that we've had dozens in other languages and we had newbies in London creating two good articles. A link to the detail might have been a catch all but we no have a bare Edit button above every

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

2016-12-08 Thread Michael Peel
An interesting question that could do with a speedy response (and maybe a copyright release email from the BBC to OTRS) has been posted at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:100_Women_(BBC)#Is_it_not_a_copyright_violation_to_publish_this_list.3F Thanks, Mike > On 8 Dec 2016, at 11:37, Lucy

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

2016-12-08 Thread Gordon Joly
On 08/12/16 13:37, Lucy Crompton-Reid wrote: > > At the training events we are of course reinforcing the need for > appropriate secondary sources, and lots of preparation work has been > done by Roger and other Women in Red editors, Stuart Prior at Wikimedia > UK and BBC staff to create lists of

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

2016-12-08 Thread Gordon Joly
On 08/12/16 12:56, WereSpielChequers wrote: > > I'm wondering whether it might be worth doing an article rescue > editathon as part of the next feminism event - Or any other themed event? Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

2016-12-08 Thread Lucy Crompton-Reid
Thanks Jonathan, that's a great idea! At the training events we are of course reinforcing the need for appropriate secondary sources, and lots of preparation work has been done by Roger and other Women in Red editors, Stuart Prior at Wikimedia UK and BBC staff to create lists of women to be added

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

2016-12-08 Thread WereSpielChequers
Since the BBC is encouraging people to create unsourced articles on living people there is a high possibility they will turn up at either https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:BLP_articles_proposed_for_deletion or even https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Candidates_for_speedy_deletion I've

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

2016-12-08 Thread Gordon Joly
On 08/12/16 12:01, Sara Thomas wrote: > > As is my custom, I'll be placing the {{new user article}} template on > the talk pages of any articles created by new users today. Which then expands to ** This is an article recently created by a new user.

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

2016-12-08 Thread Lucy Crompton-Reid
Fantastic, thanks Sara! Lucy On 8 December 2016 at 12:01, Sara Thomas wrote: > Hello all! > > On my way from a wiki session in Edinburgh to the BBC session in Glasgow, > where m'colleague Ewan is already guiding that team. I provided a training > session a week or so ago in

[Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

2016-12-05 Thread Lucy Crompton-Reid
Dear all As I know some of you will already be aware, Wikimedia UK, Women in Red and Wikimedia editors and communities around the world are partnering with BBC 100 Women to raise awareness of the gender gap on Wikipedia, improve coverage of women and encourage women to edit. A multi-location,