Re: [Wikitech-l] parserTests code coverage statistics

2009-07-30 Thread Happy-melon
I suspect that much of this has to do with the way Parser.php is eleven thousand lines of programmatic sewage, and the way the ParserTests infrastructure requires a lot of the rest of MediaWiki to be initialised in order to run the tests. As long as the rest of the system 'works' well enough

[Wikitech-l] Gallery weirdness in Chrome

2009-07-30 Thread Steve Bennett
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tronadoroldid=305058032 In Chrome, the four images in the gallery all appear at different heights. Is this known? Can it be fixed? Steve ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gallery weirdness in Chrome

2009-07-30 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, It looks like that in Firefox on Ubuntu as well Thanks, GerardM 2009/7/30 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tronadoroldid=305058032 In Chrome, the four images in the gallery all appear at different heights. Is this known? Can it be fixed?

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gallery weirdness in Chrome

2009-07-30 Thread Magnus Manske
Confirmed in FF 3.5, WinXP. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] parserTests code coverage statistics

2009-07-30 Thread Victor Vasiliev
dan nessett wrote: I decided to investigate how well parserTests exercises the MW code. So, I threw together a couple of MacGyver tools that use xdebug's code coverage capability and analyzed the results. The results are very, very preliminary, but I thought I would get them out so others

Re: [Wikitech-l] secure seems to be intermittent / very flaky right now

2009-07-30 Thread Brion Vibber
On 7/29/09 4:51 PM, George Herbert wrote: I haven't seen an announcement go out, but something seems to be borken on secure.wikimedia.org again, at least talking to en.wp. We had a temporary internal borkage around that time causing an overload of connections to the master database for English

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gallery weirdness in Chrome

2009-07-30 Thread Brion Vibber
On 7/30/09 4:39 AM, Steve Bennett wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tronadoroldid=305058032 In Chrome, the four images in the gallery all appear at different heights. Looks like a bug in the Vector skin style sheet; it's fine for me in Monobook. Vertical alignment of the cells

Re: [Wikitech-l] parserTests code coverage statistics

2009-07-30 Thread Chad
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:53 AM, dan nessettdness...@yahoo.com wrote: True. However, knowing the coverage of parserTests and knowing which code isn't even being visited by it is the first step in understanding where the holes are in testing. Code coverage is a primitive metric. But, it's a

Re: [Wikitech-l] parserTests code coverage statistics

2009-07-30 Thread dan nessett
Right. I have looked at both t/ and tests/ and agree that they could use some work. But when starting on a trip its best to walk in one direction to start. Otherwise you end up going around in circles. --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: From: Chad

[Wikitech-l] A deployment branch for the rest of us

2009-07-30 Thread Brian
The deployment branch, originally envisioned on the lists by myself, is intended to provide users of mediawiki with access to the latest stable revision - the one being used on Wikipedia, but not trunk. Unfortunately the deployment branch has been subverted and is now full of WMF specific hacks.

Re: [Wikitech-l] A deployment branch for the rest of us

2009-07-30 Thread Robert Leverington
On 2009-07-30, Brian wrote: Can we please have a the WMF deployment branch be a branch of an untainted branch of the particular revision that is considered stable? This is, and always has been, the latest release (e.g. MediaWiki 1.15.1). If you want to run beyond-stable you cannot expect

Re: [Wikitech-l] A deployment branch for the rest of us

2009-07-30 Thread Brian
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Robert Leverington rob...@rhl.me.ukwrote: On 2009-07-30, Brian wrote: Can we please have a the WMF deployment branch be a branch of an untainted branch of the particular revision that is considered stable? This is, and always has been, the latest release

Re: [Wikitech-l] A deployment branch for the rest of us

2009-07-30 Thread Mohamed Magdy
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu wrote: The deployment branch, originally envisioned on the lists by myself, is intended to provide users of mediawiki with access to the latest stable revision - the one being used on Wikipedia, but not trunk. Unfortunately the

Re: [Wikitech-l] parserTests code coverage statistics

2009-07-30 Thread Andrew Garrett
On 30/07/2009, at 3:53 PM, dan nessett wrote: True. However, knowing the coverage of parserTests and knowing which code isn't even being visited by it is the first step in understanding where the holes are in testing. Code coverage is a primitive metric. But, it's a place to start.

Re: [Wikitech-l] A deployment branch for the rest of us

2009-07-30 Thread Brian
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Mohamed Magdy mohamed@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu wrote: The deployment branch, originally envisioned on the lists by myself, is intended to provide users of mediawiki with access to the latest stable

Re: [Wikitech-l] A deployment branch for the rest of us

2009-07-30 Thread Robert Leverington
On 2009-07-30, Brian wrote: The versioning interactions between mediawiki and its extensions are so complicated that it is simply not feasible to run the latest release while simultaneously using a variety of extensions. Please can you explain more; last time I tried, branched versions of

Re: [Wikitech-l] A deployment branch for the rest of us

2009-07-30 Thread Brian
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Robert Leverington rob...@rhl.me.ukwrote: On 2009-07-30, Brian wrote: The versioning interactions between mediawiki and its extensions are so complicated that it is simply not feasible to run the latest release while simultaneously using a variety of

Re: [Wikitech-l] A deployment branch for the rest of us

2009-07-30 Thread Chad
For what its worth: it has been stated in several places by several people that wmf-deployment is not suitable for end users. It was never intended for use outside the WMF and people depending on it are mistaken. -Chad On Jul 30, 2009 12:54 PM, Robert Leverington rob...@rhl.me.uk wrote: On

[Wikitech-l] Statistics now on MediaWiki page

2009-07-30 Thread dan nessett
I am not finished with the analysis (MacGyver) tool, but I thought I would put up what I have so far on the MediaWiki site. I have created a web page in my user space for the Parser Test code coverage analysis - http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Dnessett/Parser_Tests/Code_Coverage I would

Re: [Wikitech-l] A deployment branch for the rest of us

2009-07-30 Thread Brian
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: For what its worth: it has been stated in several places by several people that wmf-deployment is not suitable for end users. It was never intended for use outside the WMF and people depending on it are mistaken. -Chad

Re: [Wikitech-l] A deployment branch for the rest of us

2009-07-30 Thread Brian
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu wrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: For what its worth: it has been stated in several places by several people that wmf-deployment is not suitable for end users. It was never

Re: [Wikitech-l] A deployment branch for the rest of us

2009-07-30 Thread Brion Vibber
On 7/30/09 9:19 AM, Brian wrote: The deployment branch, originally envisioned on the lists by myself, is intended to provide users of mediawiki with access to the latest stable revision - the one being used on Wikipedia, but not trunk. Unfortunately the deployment branch has been subverted and

Re: [Wikitech-l] A deployment branch for the rest of us

2009-07-30 Thread Brian
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 7/30/09 9:19 AM, Brian wrote: The deployment branch, originally envisioned on the lists by myself, is intended to provide users of mediawiki with access to the latest stable revision - the one being used on

Re: [Wikitech-l] A deployment branch for the rest of us

2009-07-30 Thread Brion Vibber
On 7/30/09 11:02 AM, Brian wrote: The process of development is such that these things become generalized over time, and then a specific hack is no longer needed. Please feel free to pitch in when you see such things that still need cleanup. The wmf-deployment shouldn't _need_ any

[Wikitech-l] Downtime due to network maintenance, Friday July 31st 12:00 UTC

2009-07-30 Thread Mark Bergsma
Hello, Due to a problem in one of our core routers in our Tampa cluster we need to perform some network maintenance tomorrow, Friday July 31st around 12:00 UTC. We will be performing a software upgrade and reboot of the router. This should not take more than a few minutes if everything goes well.

Re: [Wikitech-l] A deployment branch for the rest of us

2009-07-30 Thread Andrew Garrett
On 30/07/2009, at 6:40 PM, Brian wrote: I'm still waiting on the rational rejection of the need for a deployment branch of mediawiki for the rest of us. You're welcome to do the work yourself instead of posting a request and expecting somebody to do nontrivial work for you, especially

Re: [Wikitech-l] A deployment branch for the rest of us

2009-07-30 Thread Brian
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Andrew Garrett agarr...@wikimedia.orgwrote: On 30/07/2009, at 6:40 PM, Brian wrote: I'm still waiting on the rational rejection of the need for a deployment branch of mediawiki for the rest of us. You're welcome to do the work yourself instead of posting

Re: [Wikitech-l] A deployment branch for the rest of us

2009-07-30 Thread Robert Leverington
On 2009-07-30, Brian wrote: You seem confused, perhaps you should re-read the thread. I never asked anyone to do anything except make a branch. That *is* non-trivial. Someone will have to maintain that branch. Someone will have to make a judgement about when to update that branch. Generally

Re: [Wikitech-l] A deployment branch for the rest of us

2009-07-30 Thread Brian
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Robert Leverington rob...@rhl.me.ukwrote: On 2009-07-30, Brian wrote: You seem confused, perhaps you should re-read the thread. I never asked anyone to do anything except make a branch. That *is* non-trivial. Someone will have to maintain that branch.