On 15 April 2014 05:48, Isarra Yos zhoris...@gmail.com wrote:
So what is the explanation, then? What was so wrong with the defaults? Do
you have any links?
I must ask again:
Where are the user test results?
Are there any?
I've asked several times and had no response.
- d.
Adding analytics list to make sure everyone in the team sees this thread.
Is there a way to visualize where editors of a specific page come from?
I assume you mean if this data is available to the general public. By
reading the couple links you posted seems like the consensus was that this
data
On 12 April 2014 05:49, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com wrote:
I'd like to test this locally on the English Wikipedia, and I am quit
confident this makes everyone happy because 1) every OS should end up
using
a native font, and 2) it promotes a free font at the beginning of the
Hello everyone,
this is to announce the REL1_23 branch for the upcoming MediaWiki 1.23.0
release was created. The release is scheduled for 6 weeks from now, no
later than May 29th.
In order to facilitate this, please make sure anything you want in 1.23
is ready within a week. The first release
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 12:55 AM, Isarra Yos zhoris...@gmail.com wrote:
On 13/04/14 14:12, Martijn Hoekstra wrote:
But same as the original font stack, the question remains - for everything
but mac, what is this supposed to solve? What is the purpose of
even having helvetica and arial there
You can definitely get this data for *anonymous* editors based on IP
address,
and there are several visualization tools that already do something similar
to this --
real-time visualization of edits to *all* Wikipedia articles.
Just a quick Google search found [1], but I'm sure there are several.
A friend of mine just spotted this:
http://dribbble.com/shots/1508672-Wikipedia-concept
For inspiration and discussion :)
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Pau Giner has updated his RfC
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Requests_for_comment/Grid_system
with more detail, and has submitted a patchset to Gerrit
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/125387/ so that the discussion can
get more specific. Also see the example implementation
Well, it does away with most of the infobox data and those pesky language
links...
I like the three-column layout (obviously; [1]), and the map/timezone
display is nice.
[1]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia_three_column_CSS_Barack_Obama.png
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 3:29 PM,
I thought it looked like one of those pesky commercial travel sites; it
might be the subject matter, but it just looked so void of content that I
was convinced it was trying to sell me something.
Risker
On 15 April 2014 10:47, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote:
Well, it does
Could you or your friend please post
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Unsolicited_redesigns to the
thread? Designers generally do better with a spec ;-)
On 15 April 2014 15:29, Derk-Jan Hartman d.j.hartman+wmf...@gmail.com wrote:
A friend of mine just spotted this:
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:
I thought it looked like one of those pesky commercial travel sites; it
might be the subject matter, but it just looked so void of content that I
was convinced it was trying to sell me something.
I do think it's a little
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:
I thought it looked like one of those pesky commercial travel sites; it
might be the subject matter, but it just looked so void of content that I
was
In the comment thread at the bottom someone gave him a heads up about the
fonts controversy, hopefully he doesn't get totally discouraged from
MediaWiki design studies after reading it ;)
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Andre,
It's my understanding that the current Phabricator instance is temporary.
Indeed, it includes mostly jokes and throw-away testing tasks, comments,
boards, etc. Could we stand up an instance to which we would potentially
migrate to? We would have to reserve task ids 1-10 to allow us
According to
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Typography_refresh/Font_choice#Body_font_evaluationDejaVu
sans scores 0 out of 10 points for readability,
neutrality, and authority (does the font look like it conveys reliable
information). Apparently the font is not readable, neutral or
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Dan Andreescu dandree...@wikimedia.orgwrote:
I had volunteered my team to try it out for one of our projects, but I've
been hesitating until we have a blessed version.
+1 for Growth.
--
Steven Walling,
Product Manager
https://wikimediafoundation.org/
On 15 April 2014 17:24, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote:
Really a 0? What would comic sans get?
High scores for readability! It's also well-known to be very business-friendly.
- d.
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On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 6:54 PM, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.comwrote:
On Wikitech-l, Design-l, and in the extensive documentation on
mediawiki.org,
people have laid out highly objective rationales for why each font and the
associated type sizing, spacing, leading, and more were
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Gergo Tisza gti...@wikimedia.org wrote:
- instead of guessing about user preferences, you could just create a
simple survey which shows them the same text with two different font
stacks
side by side, and ask them which is more readable. This is good
On 15 April 2014 18:12, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com wrote:
We don't have a powerful/easy to use/not annoying/privacy-respecting survey
tool that can do side-by-side comparisons. This is why the feature was
launched using Beta Features for five months first. Putting out in opt-in
On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 19:12:29 +0200, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com
wrote:
Are you volunteering to build such a survey tool? ;-)
Is the Foundation unable/unwilling to allocate resources towards that? I mean,
so far it looked like everyone is treating the typography refresh seriously
On 15 April 2014 19:40, Bartosz Dziewoński matma@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 19:12:29 +0200, Steven Walling
steven.wall...@gmail.com wrote:
When it comes to using a survey to catch problems early and gauging
preferences, a survey still very much suffers from the self-selection
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:23 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
We don't have a powerful/easy to use/not annoying/privacy-respecting
survey
tool that can do side-by-side comparisons. This is why the feature was
launched using Beta Features for five months first. Putting out in
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 7:12 PM, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.comwrote:
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Gergo Tisza gti...@wikimedia.org wrote:
- instead of guessing about user preferences, you could just create a
simple survey which shows them the same text with two different
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Architecture_meetings/RFC_review_2014-04-16
Wednesday at 2100 UTC, we're discussing
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Reducing_image_quality_for_mobile
, Yuri's and Max's RfC. We also have room for one more if someone wants
to bring something up;
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Steven Walling
steven.wall...@gmail.comwrote:
Are you volunteering to build such a survey tool? ;-)
Will see if I find the time. Survey probably gives the wrong idea here,
it is really just an overlay with two buttons, more of an interactive A/B
test. Could be
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote:
In the comment thread at the bottom someone gave him a heads up about the
fonts controversy, hopefully he doesn't get totally discouraged from
MediaWiki design studies after reading it ;)
I actually think it's interesting that he
Hello,
I just wanted to make everyone aware of a discussion going on at the English
Wikipedia. They are discussing changing the Main Page, not visibly, but just
changing the page from a table based layout to one that is a little bit more
modern. The discussion can be found here:
PLEASSE! :D
This would help the mobile version a lot.
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Derric Atzrott
datzr...@alizeepathology.com wrote:
Hello,
I just wanted to make everyone aware of a discussion going on at the English
Wikipedia. They are discussing changing the Main Page, not
zhwiki main page is already div-based :)
On Apr 16, 2014 4:34 AM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote:
PLEASSE! :D
This would help the mobile version a lot.
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Derric Atzrott
datzr...@alizeepathology.com wrote:
Hello,
I just wanted to make
On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Marcin Cieslak sa...@saper.info wrote:
I agree that -1 is practically a death penalty to a change.
But that's not a positive development, because
even a mild -1's completety discourages anybody to post
a positive review (I wonder how many +1 or neutral
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Gergo Tisza gti...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Are you volunteering to build such a survey tool? ;-)
Will see if I find the time. Survey probably gives the wrong idea here,
it is really just an overlay with two buttons, more of an interactive A/B
test. Could be
I'm more eager to find a good bugzilla app :) I can find a few on Google
Play, but is there a best one to recommend?
On Apr 14, 2014 6:58 PM, Sam Reed re...@wikimedia.org wrote:
As we all know, Gerrit doesn't have the best interface, but even more so,
it's not very mobile friendly. There is
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Liangent liang...@gmail.com wrote:
zhwiki main page is already div-based :)
Not surprising. zhwiki has one of the best-looking Main Pages around. :)
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On Apr 15, 2014 11:30 PM, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Liangent liang...@gmail.com wrote:
zhwiki main page is already div-based :)
Not surprising. zhwiki has one of the best-looking Main Pages around. :)
It would be great if it were
On 15-04-2014 23:29, Steven Walling wrote:
zhwiki main page is already div-based :)
Not surprising. zhwiki has one of the best-looking Main Pages around. :)
Hmm...
They copied Pretzel's 2013 MP proposal and removed all the fluff. It's
basically two floating column divs. My design uses
I wonder if there would be demand for a modernized equivalent of
browsershots.
And yes it would be exceedingly useful.
On Apr 15, 2014 2:54 PM, Erwin Dokter er...@darcoury.nl wrote:
On 15-04-2014 23:29, Steven Walling wrote:
zhwiki main page is already div-based :)
Not surprising. zhwiki
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