Re: [Wikitech-l] Making a plain MW core git clone not be installable

2014-06-12 Thread Daniel Friesen
On 2014-06-11, 10:55 PM, Tim Starling wrote: On 11/06/14 16:18, Daniel Friesen wrote: - And, ;) making PEAR Mail installable via Composer *snicker* You snicker at the idea that the maintainers of PEAR Mail are not soldiers in a pitched battle for the minds of developers, PEAR on one side

[Wikitech-l] Which mailer should we use? (was: Making a plain MW core git clone not be installable)

2014-06-12 Thread Daniel Friesen
This will diverge from the original discussion so I'll start a new thread. On 2014-06-11, 9:22 PM, Tim Starling wrote: In other news, I found a serious security vulnerability in SwiftMailer and have reported it upstream. On 2014-06-11, 10:55 PM, Tim Starling wrote: Swift, by contrast, is a 43

Re: [Wikitech-l] Which mailer should we use? (was: Making a plain MW core git clone not be installable)

2014-06-12 Thread Thomas Gries
The present notification systems works fine - why do you want to change it? When you change it, I would like to see a simple solution which works out-of-the-box for all installers, and includes the source code in our repo. Not a new solution which depends on other big and probably messy modules

Re: [Wikitech-l] Nesting of mediawiki/core/vendor inside mediawiki/core

2014-06-12 Thread Antoine Musso
Le 12/06/2014 02:40, Max Semenik a écrit : I actually think that Composer-installed stuff should be under $IP/includes as that's where most code should be. /includes/ is for our code /includes/libs/ being an exception and holding some simple third parties libraries. That was introduced by

Re: [Wikitech-l] Which mailer should we use? (was: Making a plain MW core git clone not be installable)

2014-06-12 Thread Andre Klapper
On Thu, 2014-06-12 at 09:23 +0200, Thomas Gries wrote: The present notification systems works fine - why do you want to change it? http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2014-April/075653.html andre -- Andre Klapper | Wikimedia Bugwrangler http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/

Re: [Wikitech-l] Which mailer should we use? (was: Making a plain MW core git clone not be installable)

2014-06-12 Thread Tyler Romeo
My point back then was not that it doesn’t support mail(), but that it doesn’t support extending the framework with additional, new transport mechanisms. However, if people really have a concern about SwiftMailer, I’ll take another look at PHPMailer and see if I can put together a more

Re: [Wikitech-l] Improving event announcements (was Re: Tech Talk: How, What, Why of WikiFont)

2014-06-12 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 5:17 PM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Wednesday, June 11, 2014, Jeremy Baron jer...@tuxmachine.com wrote: On Jun 10, 2014 10:19 AM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','q...@wikimedia.org'); wrote: The video can be watched from the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Nesting of mediawiki/core/vendor inside mediawiki/core

2014-06-12 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 7:40 PM, Isarra Yos zhoris...@gmail.com wrote: and I don't think we want core to eventually just be replaced by a meta repository of a whole bunch of component repositories that then have all their own component dealies and fish and squid and a bunch of goats scattered

[Wikitech-l] Upgrading to 1.23

2014-06-12 Thread Beebe, Mary J
We have several internal wikis that we maintain. We write extensions to these wikis. We are trying to convince management to upgrade our mediaWiki version to 1.23.x. At the same time we will upgrade our PHP version from 5.2.8 to 5.4.x. We have kept our PHP version to 5.2 because of the old

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tech Talk: How, What, Why of WikiFont

2014-06-12 Thread Brion Vibber
On Wednesday, June 11, 2014, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you very much for the interesting talk, everybody. I do have a follow up question though, that I didn't think of during the talk. It was indicated that the glyphs will occupy the private use space. Many

Re: [Wikitech-l] Upgrading to 1.23

2014-06-12 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Thanks for the question. I tried to summarise in one line the single most compelling reason to upgrade to each recent MediaWiki release at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading#Why_upgrade.3F. More detailed selling points are in the wiki pages about each release and in bugzilla.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Upgrading to 1.23

2014-06-12 Thread Chris Steipp
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Beebe, Mary J bee...@battelle.org wrote: 4. General security vulnerabilities. - I would love to have any specifics here. You can start with

Re: [Wikitech-l] Second round of the MediaWiki Release Management RFP

2014-06-12 Thread Greg Grossmeier
Reminder! The deadline for RFP submissions is tomorrow June 13th (no timezone given, so assume midnight in UTC-12). Let me know if you have any last minute questions! Greg quote name=Greg Grossmeier date=2014-05-27 time=11:13:30 -0700 Excerpt from the blog post:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making a plain MW core git clone not be installable

2014-06-12 Thread Aaron Schulz
It seems worth looking into PEAR mail in my opinion. There something to be said for a certain minimalism in libraries. -- View this message in context: http://wikimedia.7.x6.nabble.com/Making-a-plain-MW-core-git-clone-not-be-installable-tp5029976p5030123.html Sent from the Wikipedia Developers

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making a plain MW core git clone not be installable

2014-06-12 Thread Tim Landscheidt
(anonymous) wrote: - needs to install composer This is one of my pet peeves. It's one thing to have to install dependencies to run MediaWiki, but having to install various dependencies just to *install* it? Ugh! Composer is a first step. [..] composer is being more and more used in the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Second round of the MediaWiki Release Management RFP

2014-06-12 Thread Brian Wolff
So submissions are supposed to be public right? Currently there are 0 public submissions. Is there a backup plan if there are no proposals? --bawolff On Jun 12, 2014 3:48 PM, Greg Grossmeier g...@wikimedia.org wrote: Reminder! The deadline for RFP submissions is tomorrow June 13th (no

Re: [Wikitech-l] Second round of the MediaWiki Release Management RFP

2014-06-12 Thread Greg Grossmeier
quote name=Brian Wolff date=2014-06-12 time=18:03:37 -0300 So submissions are supposed to be public right? Currently there are 0 public submissions. Is there a backup plan if there are no proposals? Yes and let's not speak of it ;) -- | Greg GrossmeierGPG: B2FA 27B1 F7EB D327 6B8E

[Wikitech-l] Tell my favorite conference about your Wikimedia tech

2014-06-12 Thread Roan Kattouw
The linux.conf.au conference, which I have presented to and love going to, just opened up its call for talks: http://linux.conf.au/cfp . They want talks about all kinds of open source programming stuff, not just Linux: Trevor and I presented about ResourceLoader in 2012, and James and I presented

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tell my favorite conference about your Wikimedia tech

2014-06-12 Thread Luis Villa
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com wrote: they treat speakers well, I got a balloon ride the year I spoke. It was trumped the next year by a helicopter ride. Definitely an amazing trip. Luis ___ Wikitech-l mailing

Re: [Wikitech-l] Upgrading to 1.23

2014-06-12 Thread MZMcBride
Chris Steipp wrote: On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Beebe, Mary J bee...@battelle.org wrote: 4. General security vulnerabilities. - I would love to have any specifics here. You can start with https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?f1=productf2=productf3=creati

[Wikitech-l] Debug toolbar, reduced image quality, HTML templating results

2014-06-12 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
We discussed a few RfCs yesterday: * Making a user right for using the debugging toolbar http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Debugging_toolbar : at least some people are interested in turning this on in Wikimedia-world, such as beta. Author devunt will outline security implications and reach out to

[Wikitech-l] Performance guidelines official

2014-06-12 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
On 05/16/2014 07:12 PM, Sumana Harihareswara wrote: I've addressed the feedback I got in Zurich. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Performance_guidelines I think this page is ready to have the {{draft}} tag removed. I believe it now represents our consensus on what MediaWiki core, extensions,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tell my favorite conference about your Wikimedia tech

2014-06-12 Thread Roan Kattouw
On Jun 12, 2014 4:08 PM, Luis Villa lvi...@wikimedia.org wrote: I got a balloon ride the year I spoke. It was trumped the next year by a helicopter ride. Definitely an amazing trip. Wow, when was that?! I got no such thing :) In 2012 they did take all the speakers a show (and dinner) at a