[Wikitech-l] New [[Main Page]] for Wikitech

2016-01-28 Thread Bryan Davis
I've been working on a little redesign project for the Main Page on wikitech [0] and three key sub pages it points to since 2016-01-01 in my User space. Tonight I decided that although it is far from perfect it is better enough. I hope that some of you like it better than the old page and that

[Wikitech-l] PHP-side breaking changes to login and account creation tokens in 1.27.0-wmf.12

2016-01-28 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
With the merge of Gerrit change 264309,[1] to be deployed with 1.27.0-wmf.12, note the following changes to the PHP interface around login and account creation tokens: - LoginForm::setLoginToken() and LoginForm::setCreateaccountToken() are deprecated and no longer do anything. The token is

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] New [[Main Page]] for Wikitech

2016-01-28 Thread Dan Garry
On 28 January 2016 at 21:55, Bryan Davis wrote: > I've been working on a little redesign project for the Main Page on > wikitech [0] and three key sub pages it points to since 2016-01-01 in > my User space. Tonight I decided that although it is far from perfect > it is

Re: [Wikitech-l] New [[Main Page]] for Wikitech

2016-01-28 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
This is awesome Bryan ! DJ > On 29 jan. 2016, at 06:55, Bryan Davis wrote: > > I've been working on a little redesign project for the Main Page on > wikitech [0] and three key sub pages it points to since 2016-01-01 in > my User space. Tonight I decided that although it is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Close test2wiki?

2016-01-28 Thread Dan Garry
On 27 January 2016 at 22:51, Ori Livneh wrote: > > Ok, understood. Keeping it around costs little. Dan, in case you were > volunteering, please go ahead and document the purpose of test2 on its main > page and/or wikitech -- I think it is a good idea. > I would be happy to!

[Wikitech-l] Google Code-in 2015 is over. Congratulations everybody!

2016-01-28 Thread Andre Klapper
Google Code-in 2015 has come to an end. Thanks to our students for resolving 461 Wikimedia tasks. Thanks to our 35 mentors for being available, also on weekends & holidays. Thanks to everybody on IRC for your friendliness, patience, and help provided to new contributors. Some more achievements,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Close test2wiki?

2016-01-28 Thread Rob Lanphier
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 10:51 PM, Ori Livneh wrote: > Ok, understood. Keeping it around costs little. Dan, in case you were > volunteering, please go ahead and document the purpose of test2 on its main > page and/or wikitech -- I think it is a good idea. > > If it is cheap to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Scope of ArchCom

2016-01-28 Thread Alex Monk
On 28 January 2016 at 18:53, Rob Lanphier wrote: > This is especially true given that ArchComm really has absolutely no say > > in resourcing and a given feature may not have secured funding (people, > > hardware etc.) > > > > Awwwyou're mail was so great, and then you

Re: [Wikitech-l] Scope of ArchCom

2016-01-28 Thread Alex Monk
(I did, of course, mean Ar*ch*Comm there, yes. Thanks to those of you who pointed it out.) On 28 January 2016 at 19:07, Alex Monk wrote: > On 28 January 2016 at 18:53, Rob Lanphier wrote: > >> This is especially true given that ArchComm really has

Re: [Wikitech-l] Scope of ArchCom

2016-01-28 Thread Rob Lanphier
Thanks for articulating this very clearly Faidon! More inline... On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 3:11 AM, Faidon Liambotis wrote: > On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 02:30:22PM -0800, Rob Lanphier wrote: > > Ultimately, WMF TechOps has correctly blocked a lot of software making it > > to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Scope of ArchCom

2016-01-28 Thread Greg Grossmeier
> On 28 January 2016 at 18:53, Rob Lanphier wrote: > > > This is especially true given that ArchComm really has absolutely no say > > > in resourcing and a given feature may not have secured funding (people, > > > hardware etc.) > > > > > > > Awwwyou're mail was so

Re: [Wikitech-l] Scope of ArchCom

2016-01-28 Thread Greg Grossmeier
> Generally speaking, the position WMF executive management has taken in the > conversations that I've had is that WMF needs to do a better job listening > to the community. Saying that ArchCom has "no say" basically is taking a > needlessly fatalistic stance of a mindless wage slave. I know

Re: [Wikitech-l] Developer Relations Weekly Summary

2016-01-28 Thread Pine W
Hi Quim, Is there, or will there be, a page somewhere that describes the outcomes of the Developer Summit? Thanks! Pine On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 6:19 AM, Quim Gil wrote: > The Winter break took longer than expected. Busy times! > > You can help develop the next summary. > >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Close test2wiki?

2016-01-28 Thread Ori Livneh
On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Rob Lanphier wrote: > Hi Ori, > > Thanks for bringing this seemingly vestigial weirdness to our attention. > As you say, it should be documented better. > > As I'm reading this, you are still making the case that we should still > shut this

Re: [Wikitech-l] Scope of ArchCom

2016-01-28 Thread Rob Lanphier
On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Greg Grossmeier wrote: > > > On 28 January 2016 at 18:53, Rob Lanphier wrote: > > > > > This is especially true given that ArchComm really has absolutely no > say > > > > in resourcing and a given feature may not have

Re: [Wikitech-l] Changes in the RFC decision making process

2016-01-28 Thread Scott MacLeod
Congratulations for these big "process" steps - great! Scott On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 5:25 PM, Gabriel Wicke wrote: > In the last weeks we have been exploring ways to improve our technical > consensus building and decision making process. I wrote a short RFC > [1]

[Wikitech-l] releases.wikimedia.org server has moved

2016-01-28 Thread Daniel Zahn
TLDR: The backend server used for releases.wikimedia.org has moved. use bromine.eqiad.wmnet instead of caesium.eqiad.wmnet Do i care? You do if you are a "releaser" in one of the admin groups who upload files to releases.wm.org. Hi, the backend of releases.wm.org has moved away

Re: [Wikitech-l] Scope of ArchCom

2016-01-28 Thread Wes Moran
Yeah I was there and enjoyed it, thanks again Rob and Quim. There were many good discussions that help us align and structure the thinking. It takes a lot of thought, data and discussion to know what to build, before you make the commitment to build it. At the dev summit many of the teams that

Re: [Wikitech-l] Scope of ArchCom

2016-01-28 Thread Greg Grossmeier
> Yeah I was there and enjoyed it, thanks again Rob and Quim. There were > many good discussions that help us align and structure the thinking. It > takes a lot of thought, data and discussion to know what to build, before > you make the commitment to build it. At the dev summit many of the

[Wikitech-l] Changes in the RFC decision making process

2016-01-28 Thread Gabriel Wicke
In the last weeks we have been exploring ways to improve our technical consensus building and decision making process. I wrote a short RFC [1] describing some issues, and proposed to adopt ideas from the Rust community [2] to address them. The discussion on the task and in an IRC meeting showed

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Your speaking schedule at FOSDEM

2016-01-28 Thread Ricordisamoa
I do understand that the conversion has been challenging. However, I also believe that Flow shouldn't be misrepresented as a complete success on behalf of the MediaWiki community, when its development has been in fact halted, it is missing critical features and one of the biggest independent

Re: [Wikitech-l] Close test2wiki?

2016-01-28 Thread Ricordisamoa
Il 28/01/2016 02:30, Dan Garry ha scritto: On 27 January 2016 at 17:16, Legoktm wrote: Especially when debugging and testing cross-wiki features, it is extremely useful to have two test wikis to use. MassMessage, GlobalCssJs, GlobalUserPage, and now cross-wiki

Re: [Wikitech-l] Close test2wiki?

2016-01-28 Thread aude
On Jan 27, 2016 9:57 PM, "Ori Livneh" wrote: > > The setup of test2.wikipedia.org is no longer meaningfully different from > test.wikipedia.org. Is there a good reason for keeping test2? test2 is used a bit for testing wikibase client stuff like for lua templates. Forget why

Re: [Wikitech-l] Close test2wiki?

2016-01-28 Thread Ori Livneh
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 10:17 PM, Ricordisamoa wrote: > Il 28/01/2016 02:30, Dan Garry ha scritto: > >> On 27 January 2016 at 17:16, Legoktm wrote: >> >> Especially when debugging and testing cross-wiki features, it is >>> extremely

Re: [Wikitech-l] INFO: Reading web release process update

2016-01-28 Thread Joaquin Oltra Hernandez
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 6:27 PM, Greg Grossmeier wrote: > > > Feature flagging or using feature branches for certain things may be a > way > > to go for certain things, we're keeping that in mind definitely, thanks > for > > the reminder Greg. > > Just be clear: feature

Re: [Wikitech-l] Scope of ArchCom

2016-01-28 Thread Faidon Liambotis
On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 02:30:22PM -0800, Rob Lanphier wrote: > On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 2:08 PM, Alex Monk wrote: > > > To clarify - are you saying this ([deploying increasingly excellent > > software on the Wikimedia production cluster in a consensus-oriented > > manner]) is

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[Wikitech-l] Developer Relations Weekly Summary

2016-01-28 Thread Quim Gil
The Winter break took longer than expected. Busy times! You can help develop the next summary. *Developer Relations focus* * Wrapping up Google Code-in 2015 * Wikimedia Hackathon 2016 travel sponsorship requests * Wikimedia Developer Summit 2016/Lessons Learned * Developer Relations strategy