Re: [Wikitech-l] Collecting UI feedback for PolyGerrit - Gerrit

2018-10-04 Thread Dalba
I have issues with copying the text of changed files: `ctrl+a` does not work as it used to anymore: While using the side-by-side diff view, go to a changed file, click on the old/new revision, press `ctrl+a`. In the old UI only the text of the selected file would have been selected, but now the

Re: [Wikitech-l] non-obvious uses of in your language

2018-10-04 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 2:25 PM Daniel Kinzler wrote: > Or how about {{}} for "this is a syntactic element, but it does nothing"? Just make a template with a nice name ( {{~}} or something) and put the nowiki in that. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] non-obvious uses of in your language

2018-10-04 Thread John Erling Blad
Only thing more dangerous than running a bot on nowiki is running a bot on dewiki. Nope, newer touches dewiki. On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 12:49 AM Roul P. wrote: > Interesting, today this was topic in the German main forum: > >

Re: [Wikitech-l] non-obvious uses of in your language

2018-10-04 Thread Roul P.
Interesting, today this was topic in the German main forum: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Fragen_zur_Wikipedia#Anwendung_von__in_Bildunterschriften Today there are also more than one user indefinite blocked, which only removed https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Entgr%C3%A4ten40 Am

Re: [Wikitech-l] non-obvious uses of in your language

2018-10-04 Thread John Erling Blad
We have the same in Norwegian, but linking on part of a composite is almost always wrong. Either you link on the whole composite or no part of the composite. If you link on a part of a composite, then in nearly all cases I have seen the link is placed on the wrong term. Some examples on what

Re: [Wikitech-l] non-obvious uses of in your language

2018-10-04 Thread C. Scott Ananian
-{}- is already commonly used on LanguageConverter wikis for "this is a syntactic element but does nothing except separate a word". The preprocessor already understands it on all wikis, as well. (But then we explicitly serialize it to literally `-{}-` if your content language doesn't have

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collecting UI feedback for PolyGerrit - Gerrit

2018-10-04 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 11:35 AM Paladox wrote: > What do you mean by "URLs are hard to get right due to arcane escaping > rules. I have been completely unable to make search shortcuts that work in > both the old and new UI."? Upstream have fixed some urls that were breaking > when switching to

Re: [Wikitech-l] non-obvious uses of in your language

2018-10-04 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Am 04.10.2018 um 18:58 schrieb Thiemo Kreuz: > The syntax "[[Schnee]]reichtum" is quite common in the > German community. There are not many other ways to achieve the same: > or can be used instead.[1] The later is often the > better alternative, but an auto-replacement is not possible. For >

Re: [Wikitech-l] non-obvious uses of in your language

2018-10-04 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Am 04.10.2018 um 18:24 schrieb Lucas Werkmeister: > I’m not an expert on dewiki, but I assume they still want word-ending links > for simple stuff like [[Gesetz]]e (plural), [[Finger]]s (genitive). I would > guess these cases are still more common than the long compound words where > the trick is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collecting UI feedback for PolyGerrit - Gerrit

2018-10-04 Thread Daniel Zahn
On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 11:15 AM, Gergo Tisza wrote: > * Avatars are really nice and make the whole experience more human. (They > are not enabled on the Wikimedia Gerrit yet, right?) > Yes, that is/was a bit more complicated than it may seem. For security reasons we have a separate domain for

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] [Wikitech-ambassadors] Translations on hold until further notice

2018-10-04 Thread Amir Sarabadani
There's no train next week. It's dc switch over. Best On Thu, Oct 4, 2018, 20:49 Chase Pettet wrote: > We managed to successfully get changes rolling through CI on Wednesday. > Translations are being merged but not deployed nightly, and will go out > with the normal train (next week?).

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collecting UI feedback for PolyGerrit - Gerrit

2018-10-04 Thread Paladox via Wikitech-l
Upstream just posted this  https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/repo-discuss/yON4C-hIk-o for PolyGerrit plans in 2.16 / 3.0. So it's confirmed that the planned removal of GWTUI will be in 3.0. On Thursday, 4 October 2018, 19:35:46 BST, Paladox via Wikitech-l wrote: Yep avatars are

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] [Wikitech-ambassadors] Translations on hold until further notice

2018-10-04 Thread Chase Pettet
We managed to successfully get changes rolling through CI on Wednesday. Translations are being merged but not deployed nightly, and will go out with the normal train (next week?). Nothing has been resolved officially or announced because it's still tentative at this point. Hopefully, it's smooth

Re: [Wikitech-l] non-obvious uses of in your language

2018-10-04 Thread Bináris
The problem with all anti-linktrail practices is that they make search (or search and replace) in the source very hard. This relies both to bot owners and humans who use the insource: regex search engine. I think a brand new approach would be necessary. For example, [[foo]]bar would behave as now,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collecting UI feedback for PolyGerrit - Gerrit

2018-10-04 Thread Paladox via Wikitech-l
Yep avatars are not yet enabled, but we have implemented the backend to support it. Changes that are left to merge  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/operations/puppet/+/439808 and  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/operations/puppet/+/456437 What do you mean by "URLs are hard to get right due to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collecting UI feedback for PolyGerrit - Gerrit

2018-10-04 Thread Gergo Tisza
Thanks for your work on Gerrit, Paladox! The Polygerrit upgrade looks great; the thread view is especially amazing. (If you are not familiar with it, check this patch [1] and click "Comment Threads" near the bottom of the screen.) I mostly have behavior issues (on gerrit.wikimedia.org; I haven't

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikitech-ambassadors] Translations on hold until further notice

2018-10-04 Thread Bartosz Dziewoński
Good news: l10n-bot appears to be exporting translations again. I assume crisis has been averted. -- Matma Rex ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] non-obvious uses of in your language

2018-10-04 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
I once wrote some very, very silly code that kind of works for Hebrew, and could possibly be adapted to other languages: https://github.com/amire80/znavot Pull requests welcome :) בתאריך יום ה׳, 4 באוק׳ 2018, 19:59, מאת Thiemo Kreuz ‏< thiemo.kr...@wikimedia.de>: > Hey! > > The syntax

Re: [Wikitech-l] non-obvious uses of in your language

2018-10-04 Thread Thiemo Kreuz
Hey! The syntax "[[Schnee]]reichtum" is quite common in the German community. There are not many other ways to achieve the same: or can be used instead.[1] The later is often the better alternative, but an auto-replacement is not possible. For example, "[[Bund]]estag" must become

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collecting UI feedback for PolyGerrit - Gerrit

2018-10-04 Thread Paladox via Wikitech-l
That has also be implemented upstream. Starting from 2.16. https://github.com/GerritCodeReview/gerrit/commit/efc81216a1bffe599477cca32cf9d82307109ca9 On Thursday, 4 October 2018, 17:14:05 BST, C. Scott Ananian wrote: The new Gerrit UI seems to be missing the "ignore whitespace"

Re: [Wikitech-l] non-obvious uses of in your language

2018-10-04 Thread Lucas Werkmeister
I’m not an expert on dewiki, but I assume they still want word-ending links for simple stuff like [[Gesetz]]e (plural), [[Finger]]s (genitive). I would guess these cases are still more common than the long compound words where the trick is used. Am Do., 4. Okt. 2018 um 17:44 Uhr schrieb Amir E.

[Wikitech-l] TechCom Radar 2018-10-03

2018-10-04 Thread Kate Chapman
Hi All, Here are the minutes from this week's TechCom meeting: * Hosted IRC discussion on Spec for representing multiple content objects per revision (MCR) in XML dumps     * minutes:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collecting UI feedback for PolyGerrit - Gerrit

2018-10-04 Thread C. Scott Ananian
The new Gerrit UI seems to be missing the "ignore whitespace" option in diffs which the old Gerrit UI had. That's a very useful feature when reviewing patches which include indentation changes, for example compare:

Re: [Wikitech-l] non-obvious uses of in your language

2018-10-04 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
I'm really not an expert on German. However, I have been slowly analyzing common trails in some other languages with purpose of doing smarter link trailing some day. It's a very crazy and long term pet project :) In theory, I could do it for German, too. בתאריך יום ה׳, 4 באוק׳ 2018, 18:39, מאת C.

Re: [Wikitech-l] non-obvious uses of in your language

2018-10-04 Thread C. Scott Ananian
https://hu.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Grafikus_matroid=prev=20406147 illustrates another use: separating - and { in the unusual case where this string is wanted and you *don't* want language converter markup. ie `-{foo}-` is different from `-{foo}-`. You don't usually notice this because

Re: [Wikitech-l] non-obvious uses of in your language

2018-10-04 Thread Bináris
Here is a list of removals. :-) https://hu.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Speci%C3%A1lis:Szerkeszt%C5%91_k%C3%B6zrem%C5%B1k%C3%B6d%C3%A9sei/BinBot=20180912205000=BinBot=28 Amir E. Aharoni ezt írta (időpont: 2018. okt. 4., Cs, 16:47): > Thanks. Can you please give some particular examples? > >

Re: [Wikitech-l] non-obvious uses of in your language

2018-10-04 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Thanks. Can you please give some particular examples? בתאריך יום ה׳, 4 באוק׳ 2018, 17:41, מאת Bináris ‏: > Amir E. Aharoni ezt írta (időpont: 2018. > okt. 4., Cs, 16:18): > > > > > This sentence shows the template used at the end.{{Citation > > needed|reason=Reliable source needed for the whole

Re: [Wikitech-l] non-obvious uses of in your language

2018-10-04 Thread Bináris
Amir E. Aharoni ezt írta (időpont: 2018. okt. 4., Cs, 16:18): > > This sentence shows the template used at the end.{{Citation > needed|reason=Reliable source needed for the whole sentence|date=October > 2018}} > > However, has less trivial use cases, that are not quite the same > as

[Wikitech-l] non-obvious uses of in your language

2018-10-04 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Hi, In MediaWiki, the tag was created for writing characters without having them interpreted as wiki syntax. An obvious and direct use case for this is writing help pages about editing wiki pages in wiki syntax, for example: Writing '''words between three apostrophes''' will show them in bold

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collecting UI feedback for PolyGerrit - Gerrit

2018-10-04 Thread Paladox via Wikitech-l
In PolyGerrit on the master branch, we can now define themes for users to try. I haven't tried building a theme yet that allows users to switch between themes. On Wednesday, 3 October 2018, 23:29:09 BST, Thiemo Kreuz wrote: Paladox wrote: > i am collecting feedback for Gerrit's New

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collecting UI feedback for PolyGerrit - Gerrit

2018-10-04 Thread Paladox via Wikitech-l
I filled the collapse section on dashboard suggestion at  https://bugs.chromium.org/p/gerrit/issues/detail?id=9804 On Thursday, 4 October 2018, 10:28:29 BST, Daniel Kinzler wrote: I have been using PolyGerrit for as long as it has been available for testing, and my general feedback is:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collecting UI feedback for PolyGerrit - Gerrit

2018-10-04 Thread Paladox via Wikitech-l
Point 1: Upstream are running the master branch of gerrit. So as soon as 2.16 is branched and released then a point release is done we will be able to upgrade to it on gerrit.wikimedia.org. Point 2: Same as above. That feature will roll out to gerrit.wikimedia.org as soon as we upgrade. Point

[Wikitech-l] Patchsets by new Gerrit contributors waiting for code review and/or merge

2018-10-04 Thread Andre Klapper
CR0: Please review and provide guidance if you are familiar with the code, and decide (CR±1 or CR±2): * https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/mediawiki/extensions/AbuseFilter/+/201104/ ** Overhaul AbuseFilter internal profiling system ** 2018-September-09 ** Maintainers/Stewards: MediaWiki Platform

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collecting UI feedback for PolyGerrit - Gerrit

2018-10-04 Thread Daniel Kinzler
I have been using PolyGerrit for as long as it has been available for testing, and my general feedback is: not perfect, but about a thousand times better than the old ui. Collapsible sections in the dashboard would be very helpful, and GerritBot should not post anything about changes that are

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collecting UI feedback for PolyGerrit - Gerrit

2018-10-04 Thread Addshore
I'm still currently using the old UI, here are some things that I have noticed. #1 While comparing gerrit-review.googlesource.com and our gerrit install I have found that the googlesource version seems easier to look at. I think some of this is down to the greater contrast difference and the