Re: [Wikitech-l] How to mount a local copy of the English Wikipedia for researchers?

2012-06-13 Thread Steve Bennett
. Feel free to contact with problems. -Adam Wight j...@sahnwaldt.de: mwdumper seems to work for recent dumps: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-l/2012-May/039347.html On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 11:19 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all,  I've been tasked

[Wikitech-l] How to mount a local copy of the English Wikipedia for researchers?

2012-06-12 Thread Steve Bennett
Hi all, I've been tasked with setting up a local copy of the English Wikipedia for researchers - sort of like another Toolserver. I'm not having much luck, and wondered if anyone has done this recently, and what approach they used? We only really need the current article text - history and meta

Re: [Wikitech-l] Desktop upload tool

2012-05-26 Thread Steve Bennett
On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 1:47 AM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: b) Suggest new functionalities/requisites Either on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Platonides/GSOC_proposal or in this thread. * Would be nice if the tool maintains a relationship between the file on disk, the metadata

Re: [Wikitech-l] Git, Gerrit and the coming migration

2012-03-06 Thread Steve Bennett
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 6:20 AM, Diederik van Liere dvanli...@gmail.com wrote: 1) The Git / Gerrit combination means that you will have to understand git rebase, git commit --amend, git bisect and git cherry-pick. This is advanced Git usage and that will make the learning curve steeper. I think

Re: [Wikitech-l] Git migration - instructions for Sysops

2012-02-17 Thread Steve Bennett
Hi, I'm not involved in media wiki development but I've been through the got thing a couple of times. There's an alternative command line interface called easygit which you can download and install. It makes the learning curve shallower with more intuitive commands, more helpful output and much

Re: [Wikitech-l] A call for skins

2011-02-08 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Daniel Friesen li...@nadir-seen-fire.com wrote: If you have a MediaWiki skin you've built, feel free to bring out it's source code. Currently most of the few custom skins that exist are floating around the Internet, and they are various degrees of out of date.

Re: [Wikitech-l] list of halfway implemented CSS

2010-12-12 Thread Steve Bennett
Btw, I haven't been following this discussion, but does everyone here know about the browser extension stylish, and userstyles.org? It's a very easy way for anyone to use whatever CSS they like. My favourite: http://userstyles.org/styles/22809 Apologies if this wasn't helpful. Steve

Re: [Wikitech-l] Google phases out support for IE6

2010-02-03 Thread Steve Bennett
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 1:59 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: http://danielrw.tumblr.com/post/266672251/hilarious-ie6-splash-screens Yeah, but something more subtle might actually be appropriate. Presumably IE6 lingers so long because it doesn't cause *users* any problems. All the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bugzilla Vs other trackers.

2010-01-06 Thread Steve Bennett
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Priyanka Dhanda pdha...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Guillaume and Naoko have expressed a need for a Project Management Tool and I though it would be good to try use a tracker with some project management functionality or integrates easily with some project management

Re: [Wikitech-l] Visualization of Wikipedia content

2009-12-19 Thread Steve Bennett
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 2:08 AM, Lars Aronsson l...@aronsson.se wrote: We now have enough data to draw a [[population pyramid]] for biographies in the Swedish Wikipedia. One such diagram is http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:LA2-gender-age.png Cool stuff. By year on year I only meant a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Flagged revs on en:wp?

2009-12-11 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 2:41 PM, William Pietri will...@scissor.com wrote: Great! We did too. To make sure that they're covered, have you posted them anywhere? E.g., here: http://flaggedrevs.labs.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page Or here:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Flagged revs on en:wp?

2009-12-10 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 2:18 PM, William Pietri will...@scissor.com wrote: Because the next version should address a lot of the labs feedback, I'd like to do at least one more labs release. Yes, please! I had some pretty big concerns about the last version... Steve

Re: [Wikitech-l] Labs site down?

2009-11-19 Thread Steve Bennett
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:51 PM, K. Peachey p858sn...@yahoo.com.au wrote: As per the discussions on en.wiki, I believe we [en.wikipedia] will be calling Flagged Protection since that is how it is meant to be implemented for us based on community consensus and that is what it has been formally

Re: [Wikitech-l] Labs site down?

2009-11-19 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 3:35 AM, William Pietri will...@scissor.com wrote: Most software is either internal business software, where users are obliged to put up with almost anything, or consumer-oriented, where users are mostly uninvolved and fickle. The product management methods in either of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Labs site down?

2009-11-18 Thread Steve Bennett
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Jake Wartenberg j...@jakewartenberg.com wrote: As a side note, what exactly is holding up implementation of this on enwiki? I believe Brion mentioned that his leaving was likely to delay its implementation. My personal feeling, from playing around on that site,

Re: [Wikitech-l] memento: time warp for mediawiki

2009-11-15 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 2:43 AM, Nikola Smolenski smole...@eunet.rs wrote: * the timestamp isn't a unique identifier, multiple revisions *might* have the same timestamp. We need a tiebreak (rev_id would be the obvious choice). I'd say it is, if sufficiently precise :) If not, either use the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Browser stats - OS as well?

2009-11-14 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 2:21 AM, Mark Clements (HappyDog) gm...@kennel17.co.uk wrote: Do you mean http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportOperatingSystems.htm? Cool. What is the mediawiki browser? Steve ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] strategy discussion

2009-11-02 Thread Steve Bennett
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 1:57 AM, Eugene Eric Kim ee...@blueoxen.com wrote: Sorry about the confusion. I believe Australia uses the EDT convention, but I may be mistaken. U.S. is actually on Eastern Standard Time (EST) right now. Yeah, it's confusing. The term AEST or AEDT is less ambiguous:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia Google Earth layer

2009-10-02 Thread Steve Bennett
On 10/2/09, Strainu strain...@gmail.com wrote: I was wondering if anyone here knows how often does Google update their Wikipedia layer for Google Earth and how do they get the data? I mean, they use the geo templates in the articles, but do they parse a wikipedia dump or they use a crawler

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia Google Earth layer

2009-10-02 Thread Steve Bennett
On 10/3/09, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: They use the dumps, and they reported some time ago to do so about once a month. That'll teach me to speculate. Steve ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Disambiguation while editing

2009-10-01 Thread Steve Bennett
On 10/1/09, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote: Meanwhile, I wrote a simple JS that tells you when the cursor (in edit mode) is within a red link, or if it's a disambiguation page, it offers replace-links to click on. That should answer the problem of the OP. Could do redirects

Re: [Wikitech-l] Disambiguation while editing

2009-09-30 Thread Steve Bennett
On 10/1/09, Lars Aronsson l...@aronsson.se wrote: What it would do: From where the cursor stands in the edit box, search backwards for a [[ and then forwards to the following | or ]] which ever comes first (this covers the case that the cursor is inside the link brackets). Look up that

Re: [Wikitech-l] Disambiguation while editing

2009-09-30 Thread Steve Bennett
On 10/1/09, Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org wrote: I'm pretty sure the usability kids have something to this effect up their sleeves, hiding somewhere. Heh, I was wondering if this would start to become the new meme. We don't need to fix that gui, the usability team will take care of it!

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal for editing template calls within pages

2009-09-28 Thread Steve Bennett
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 5:55 AM, Daniel Friesen li...@nadir-seen-fire.com wrote: I had a user who copied an article from the html of Wikipedia (no edit button) into Wikia's RTE. Theoretically that use case could be supported, right? If there were enough id's in the HTML source, then we could

Re: [Wikitech-l] Unicode characters in Chrome

2009-09-27 Thread Steve Bennett
On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 3:18 AM, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com wrote: No, it's not.  We're talking about a specific article on the English Wikipedia about a single obscure character, and related cases where isolated characters don't display properly. Well, actually I was just

Re: [Wikitech-l] Template editing

2009-09-27 Thread Steve Bennett
On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 3:11 AM, Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com wrote: We (the usability team) do intend to get 'content folding' (folding template calls and tables into stubs that can be expanded at will) done in the Citron (third) release. *falls to the ground and starts kissing your

[Wikitech-l] Witext syntax (was: Re: Proposal for editing template calls within pages)

2009-09-27 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Happy-melon happy-me...@live.com wrote: The 10% drove people off cliffs because it is, pretty much by definition, the horrible unexpected behaviour that is a *consequence* of not having a formal definition.  Writing a formal definition is not impossible if you

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal for editing template calls within pages

2009-09-25 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Dmitriy Sintsov ques...@rambler.ru wrote: What's complex in '''bold''' and ==headings== ? Here when we've It *looks* complex. That's pretty much most of the problem. Here's our desired use case: 1) User views a page that is deficient in some way. 2) User decides

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal for editing template calls within pages

2009-09-24 Thread Steve Bennett
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Nikola Smolenski smole...@eunet.rs wrote: Having said that, I don't see why would XML be necessary. Table and template markup are well structured and could be used by any editor just as XML would. Additionally, it is easier to observe diffs with wiki markup. Is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal for editing template calls within pages

2009-09-24 Thread Steve Bennett
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Dmitriy Sintsov ques...@rambler.ru wrote: So it would be menu and icon-driven editing, where the hands should move from keyboard to mouse and vice versa, like MS Word. Not very handy for programmers and people who prefer to do most of tasks in command line. I

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikitext vs. WYSIWYG (was: Proposal for editing template calls within pages)

2009-09-24 Thread Steve Bennett
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 10:44 PM, Peter Gervai grin...@gmail.com wrote: Adding a gui layer to wikitext is always okay, as long as it's possible to get rid of, since majority of edits not coming from new users, and losing flexibility for power users to get more newbies doesn't sound like a good

[Wikitech-l] Unicode characters in Chrome

2009-09-24 Thread Steve Bennett
I'm using Chrome 3.0.195.21, and have long found that some characters in Wikipedia render as boxes. One example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P_with_stroke renders as box (minuscule: box)... Now, I looked at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Special_characters and the advice is not very useful or

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal for editing template calls within pages

2009-09-24 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 8:05 AM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: Getting a formal definition of ~90% of the wikitext syntax is easy. The other 10% drived nuts everyone trying to do it hard enough, so far. I wouldn't put it quite like that. Yes, the problem gets harder as you get nearer

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal for editing template calls within pages

2009-09-23 Thread Steve Bennett
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Robert Rohde raro...@gmail.com wrote: Wikis are supposed to be easy to edit.  Maybe I am misunderstanding your intent, but XML-ize everything sounds like an approach that would make it much harder for novice editors to figure out what they are doing.  XML tends

Re: [Wikitech-l] Article metadata separation from main wikitext

2009-09-21 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Tim Landscheidt t...@tim-landscheidt.de wrote: Does this mean that we can switch off section editing soon as it becomes useless? What you're saying is there's no point editing just a section, if it relies on references defined elsewhere. But that's not true.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Usability initiative

2009-09-17 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 6:16 AM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: And if it were changed, templates *should* be able to continue being a source of metadata. So I think that requirement blocks changing the way categories are stored. You're right, I completely overlooked that. So, milder

Re: [Wikitech-l] Usability initiative

2009-09-17 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: I could be wrong here, but wasn't Cite recently changed to allow for putting refs inside references? If so, I think we could start encouraging people to put all of their refs down in the  references block and just using ref

Re: [Wikitech-l] Article metadata separation from main wikitext

2009-09-17 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 8:46 AM, Andrew Garrett agarr...@wikimedia.org wrote: A fix for this went live today. You can now put your ref name= tags into the references tag, and then reference them by name. Oh, so it did. And it works!

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Toolserver-l] Archive of visitor stats

2009-09-17 Thread Steve Bennett
2009/9/18 Robert Rohde raro...@gmail.com: Careful, a recent analysis I did suggested that 15% of all page requests for articles on Wikipedia are for topics requested less than once per hour.  There are a very large number of pages that rarely see hits, but collectively the traffic to such

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Toolserver-l] Archive of visitor stats

2009-09-17 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Robert Rohde raro...@gmail.com wrote: That particular result is unpublished.  I could make you a list of infrequently viewed articles, but it would be quite long. Could you make a list of the 100 least viewed? Or are there are large number which are essentially

Re: [Wikitech-l] Article metadata separation from main wikitext

2009-09-17 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Robert Rohde raro...@gmail.com wrote: In practice it is very rare to have a ref be placed inside the content of another ref, so the problem of nested refs will almost never come up, but it is something to be aware of if one is considering any mass effort to

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Toolserver-l] Archive of visitor stats

2009-09-17 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu wrote: There is a strong correlation between start/stub quality articles and the number of times they are viewed. Ah, ok. What about a list of exceptions to that: articles over 1000 characters, that have been around more than a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Usability initiative

2009-09-16 Thread Steve Bennett
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote: Any plans of separating these on edit, then re-attach them to the text on saving? It's low-hanging fruit IMHO. Good question. IMHO, all position independent stuff (ie, metadata) would be better off saved

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wiki at Home Extension

2009-08-02 Thread Steve Bennett
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 12:16 AM, Tisza Gergőgti...@gmail.com wrote: Gregory Maxwell gmaxwell at gmail.com writes: I don't know how to figure out how much it would 'cost' to have human contributors spot embedded penises snuck into transcodes and then figure out which of several contributing

[Wikitech-l] Gallery weirdness in Chrome

2009-07-30 Thread Steve Bennett
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tronadoroldid=305058032 In Chrome, the four images in the gallery all appear at different heights. Is this known? Can it be fixed? Steve ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikiEN-l] MediaWiki is getting a new programming language

2009-07-16 Thread Steve Bennett
On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Gerard Meijssengerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: You forget that there are loads of MediaWiki installations outside the WMF as well.  REALLY, the inability of people to do this geek thing is detrimental to the adoption of MediaWiki. You think? What's another wiki

[Wikitech-l] Corrupt images

2009-07-16 Thread Steve Bennett
I understand there was some issue with image generation, but I'm still seeing a corrupt image in the main box here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echuca,_Victoria The actual image itself is ok: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Echuca_docks_Stevage.jpg Is there a hack to get the image

Re: [Wikitech-l] Corrupt images

2009-07-16 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:11 PM, K. Peacheyp858sn...@yahoo.com.au wrote: The image thumbnailing systems are currently offline during a server move, that is why the image isn't being displayed. So thumbnails that were already generated survive, but no new ones are generated? Cool. Steve

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal/RFC: Checksum of revision text

2009-07-12 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 7:31 AM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote: Careful - think what happens when a single revision is deleted, oversighted or suppressed. Isn't this an argument in favour of storing the text once and linking to it? If the text contains some personal information deemed

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: switch to HTML 5

2009-07-08 Thread Steve Bennett
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Marco Schusterma...@harddisk.is-a-geek.org wrote: We should not recommend Chrome - as good as it is, but it has serious privacy problems. Out of curiosity, why do we need to recommend a browser at all, and why do we think anyone will listen to our recommendation?

Re: [Wikitech-l] secure slower and slower

2009-07-07 Thread Steve Bennett
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 11:35 PM, William Allen Simpsonwilliam.allen.simp...@gmail.com wrote: Some may not think that this site is critical, or valuable, or whatever. That's a horrible strawman argument. Some simply think that the amount of damage that can be caused by hijacking a non-admin

Re: [Wikitech-l] Regular expressions searching

2009-07-06 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Amir E. Aharoniamir.ahar...@gmail.com wrote: 2. The info won't be up-to-date. Would it be too much to ask to search the database directly using regexes? What's your use case? Obviously all the points below are valid and rule out directly regex searching on the

Re: [Wikitech-l] secure slower and slower

2009-07-06 Thread Steve Bennett
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Remember the dotrememberthe...@gmail.com wrote: Theoretically, a man-in-the-middle attack could allow a malicious person to hijack your session cookies and take over your account. HTTPS makes this practically impossible. Yeah, and so what? OMG THEY MADE EDITS

Re: [Wikitech-l] secure slower and slower

2009-07-05 Thread Steve Bennett
On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 3:13 AM, William Allen Simpsonwilliam.allen.simp...@gmail.com wrote: I really think this is a superb idea, but Really? Personally, security is of no concern to my use of Wikipedia, but I guess I can imagine contexts where it might be. Steve

Re: [Wikitech-l] secure slower and slower

2009-07-02 Thread Steve Bennett
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 3:39 AM, William Allen Simpsonwilliam.allen.simp...@gmail.com wrote: William Allen Simpson wrote: So, I've reverted to the old practice from the dog days of 2005-06, and mostly edit in very off hours. Yet it slowed down drastically again! Here's my test log, edits

Re: [Wikitech-l] On templates and programming languages

2009-07-02 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Marco Schusterma...@harddisk.is-a-geek.org wrote: You can make some kind of counter, which gets incremented each foreach/while/for loop. If it reaches 200 (or whatever), execution is stopped. Yes, but that implies: 1) We're writing an interpreter, or getting

Re: [Wikitech-l] $300K grant for Wikimedia Commons

2009-07-01 Thread Steve Bennett
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Erik Moellere...@wikimedia.org wrote: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/foundation/f/f9/WMF_Ford_Multimedia_Participation_Project.pdf The objective of this project is to increase participation in and contributions to Wikimedia Commons by implementing a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Extending wikilinks syntax

2009-06-28 Thread Steve Bennett
On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 12:21 AM, Aryeh Gregorsimetrical+wikil...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 8:22 AM, Steve Bennettstevag...@gmail.com wrote: 3) A limited number of admin-controlled special templates can use an even wider range of features, including raw HTML. Admins are not

Re: [Wikitech-l] Extending wikilinks syntax

2009-06-26 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Aryeh Gregorsimetrical+wikil...@gmail.com wrote: From the editor's point of view.  Not from the view of the HTML source, which is what the original proposal was looking at. I guess. I'm starting to get the initial pangs of an idea that we should have

Re: [Wikitech-l] Changes to parser - link endings.

2009-06-25 Thread Steve Bennett
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:43 PM, Mark Clements (HappyDog)gm...@kennel17.co.uk wrote: I noticed the problem here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil%27s_Heavy_Concept_Album Now that you mention it, that does look marginally odd. Both options seem pretty reasonable, so unless anyone feels strongly

Re: [Wikitech-l] Extending wikilinks syntax

2009-06-25 Thread Steve Bennett
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11:59 PM, Aryeh Gregorsimetrical+wikil...@gmail.com wrote: Common this definitely is: it's relevant to the overwhelming majority of pages on Wikipedia, at least if weighted by views.  It affects all pages with references and most with infoboxes, for instance.  It's not

Re: [Wikitech-l] Extending wikilinks syntax

2009-06-22 Thread Steve Bennett
On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Kalankalan@gmail.com wrote: We don’t allow attributes for wikilinks. ... That is, [[Special:Userlogout|log out|id=logoutlink|style=color:red|title=This will log you out]] will be a wikilink with style, title and id attributes. The current syntax is a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Different apostrophe signs and MediaWiki internal search

2009-06-22 Thread Steve Bennett
On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Neil Harrisuse...@tonal.clara.co.uk wrote: Regarding dashes and hyphens, I've now found my original data set, and a quick inspection gives this set of various similar-looking Latin hyphens, dashes and minus signs: U+002D HYPHEN-MINUS U+2010 HYPHEN U+2011

Re: [Wikitech-l] new extension for embedded music scores

2009-05-27 Thread Steve Bennett
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 11:49 PM, Birgitte SB birgitte...@yahoo.com wrote: That wouldn't be very useful for Wikisource purposes.  We need something editable. I was assuming the user would include the LilyPond source along with the image. As I did here, for example:

Re: [Wikitech-l] new extension for embedded music scores

2009-05-24 Thread Steve Bennett
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 5:25 AM, River Tarnell ri...@loreley.flyingparchment.org.uk wrote:  http://abc.sourceforge.net/ You know what would be useful? A website that lets you input ABC (or LilyPond, for that matter) text, and produces an image as output. Hence avoiding the need to download and

Re: [Wikitech-l] new extension for embedded music scores

2009-05-24 Thread Steve Bennett
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: You know what would be useful? A website that lets you input ABC (or LilyPond, for that matter) text, and produces an image as output. Hence avoiding the need to download and install it. Does such a thing exist? http

Re: [Wikitech-l] We're not quite at Google's level

2009-05-21 Thread Steve Bennett
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 2:58 AM, The Cunctator cuncta...@gmail.com wrote: We should definitely highlight real downtime as a reason for funding, especially in a way that discusses practical steps that would be taken to reduce the problem and how much those steps would cost. Interesting point.

Re: [Wikitech-l] We're not quite at Google's level

2009-05-21 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: The thing that prompted me to start this thread was Google, a commercial organisation (although not one people pay for at the point of use), issuing just such a press release. Err, yes. But people had already