Re: [Wikitech-l] {{TemplatesThatWorkOnMobile}}

2014-11-01 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 7 October 2014 23:12, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote: One thing that would help tremendously would be encouraging template standardization on the wikis. For example, on en.wiki, we currently have 60 different quotation templates![1] 1.

Re: [Wikitech-l] {{TemplatesThatWorkOnMobile}}

2014-10-14 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 11 October 2014 20:12, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: In the recent past, I've done a *lot* of work on en.WP, encouraging the community to delete or merge redundant templates. I'm happy to hepl with doing so for quote templates. I've nominated a bunch of quote templates for

Re: [Wikitech-l] {{TemplatesThatWorkOnMobile}}

2014-10-11 Thread Martijn Hoekstra
On Oct 9, 2014 8:08 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Helder wrote: This is why we have proposals like https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/GlobalTemplates https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global-Wiki Yes, a million times this. We must figure out a way to centralize templates so that

Re: [Wikitech-l] {{TemplatesThatWorkOnMobile}}

2014-10-11 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 7 October 2014 23:12, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote: One thing that would help tremendously would be encouraging template standardization on the wikis. For example, on en.wiki, we currently have 60 different quotation templates![1] And all of them have completely different

Re: [Wikitech-l] {{TemplatesThatWorkOnMobile}}

2014-10-10 Thread Florian Schmidt
regards Florian -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] Im Auftrag von Brion Vibber Gesendet: Mittwoch, 8. Oktober 2014 00:14 An: Wikimedia developers Betreff: Re: [Wikitech-l] {{TemplatesThatWorkOnMobile}} On Tue

Re: [Wikitech-l] {{TemplatesThatWorkOnMobile}}

2014-10-09 Thread MZMcBride
Helder wrote: This is why we have proposals like https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/GlobalTemplates https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global-Wiki Yes, a million times this. We must figure out a way to centralize templates so that maintenance is easier. The current system of per-project wiki templates

Re: [Wikitech-l] {{TemplatesThatWorkOnMobile}}

2014-10-09 Thread K. Peachey
Perhaps someone could trail making a gadget that will display the template loaded into the m.* mobile experience so its's easier for users to have a look as a starting point? On 9 October 2014 14:09, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Helder wrote: This is why we have proposals like

Re: [Wikitech-l] {{TemplatesThatWorkOnMobile}}

2014-10-08 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
Jon, 1: Get templateeditor rights on your volunteer account, you can edit the majority of templates with that, and you only need to proof your skill with templates for that, which is a reasonably low barrier. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_editor 2: This whole stuff is mostly

Re: [Wikitech-l] {{TemplatesThatWorkOnMobile}}

2014-10-08 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
On 8 okt. 2014, at 04:37, Dan Garry dga...@wikimedia.org wrote: As members of the Mobile Team, it's our job to make the mobile platform the best it can be. If we have to edit templates to do that because they're causing significant display issues that are disrupting the platform, so be it.

Re: [Wikitech-l] {{TemplatesThatWorkOnMobile}}

2014-10-08 Thread Helder .
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 4:00 AM, Derk-Jan Hartman d.j.hartman+wmf...@gmail.com wrote: 5: Remember that you need to do this for EACH AND EVERY individual wiki… ...or, from what I have seen, if you do it only on enwiki then users will just create another fork of the template on smaller wikis and: *

[Wikitech-l] {{TemplatesThatWorkOnMobile}}

2014-10-07 Thread Jon Robson
On mobile we continuously get bugs related to inline styles in templates. For example: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68001 When these happen we usually spend time investigating, discover it is because of a troublesome inline style in the template and then we communicate this on

Re: [Wikitech-l] {{TemplatesThatWorkOnMobile}}

2014-10-07 Thread Jon Robson
(See also https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35704 for lots of examples of broken template/css combos) On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Jon Robson jrob...@wikimedia.org wrote: On mobile we continuously get bugs related to inline styles in templates. For example:

Re: [Wikitech-l] {{TemplatesThatWorkOnMobile}}

2014-10-07 Thread Ryan Kaldari
One thing that would help tremendously would be encouraging template standardization on the wikis. For example, on en.wiki, we currently have 60 different quotation templates![1] And all of them have completely different inline styling (most of which don't work well on mobile). If there were only

Re: [Wikitech-l] {{TemplatesThatWorkOnMobile}}

2014-10-07 Thread Bináris
Is there a techguide anywhere on how to style templates to avoid mobile problems? ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] {{TemplatesThatWorkOnMobile}}

2014-10-07 Thread Brion Vibber
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Jon Robson jrob...@wikimedia.org wrote: On mobile we continuously get bugs related to inline styles in templates. For example: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68001 When these happen we usually spend time investigating, discover it is because

Re: [Wikitech-l] {{TemplatesThatWorkOnMobile}}

2014-10-07 Thread Isarra Yos
On 07/10/14 22:02, Jon Robson wrote: On mobile we continuously get bugs related to inline styles in templates. For example: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68001 When these happen we usually spend time investigating, discover it is because of a troublesome inline style in the

Re: [Wikitech-l] {{TemplatesThatWorkOnMobile}}

2014-10-07 Thread Brion Vibber
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Bináris wikipo...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a techguide anywhere on how to style templates to avoid mobile problems? I'll write up some notes... The first thing is to *test your pages on mobile*. The least one can do is fire up a page in *.m.wikipedia.org in a

Re: [Wikitech-l] {{TemplatesThatWorkOnMobile}}

2014-10-07 Thread Isarra Yos
On 07/10/14 22:17, Isarra Yos wrote: On 07/10/14 22:02, Jon Robson wrote: On mobile we continuously get bugs related to inline styles in templates. For example: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68001 When these happen we usually spend time investigating, discover it is because of

Re: [Wikitech-l] {{TemplatesThatWorkOnMobile}}

2014-10-07 Thread Jon Robson
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Bináris wikipo...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a techguide anywhere on how to style templates to avoid mobile problems? There are a few notes here -

Re: [Wikitech-l] {{TemplatesThatWorkOnMobile}}

2014-10-07 Thread Jon Robson
The wiki way is not to ask and wait for someone else to act, but to act directly in good faith and communicate what you did and why so that if there is disagreement it can be resolved afterwards. Sadly I only have template edit rights on my staff account and I really don't like using that

Re: [Wikitech-l] {{TemplatesThatWorkOnMobile}}

2014-10-07 Thread K. Peachey
Templates aren't protected by default =). If they are protected there is generally a good reason such as heavy usage, you can always put a comment on the talk page and tag it with {{EditProtected}} which will summon someone with sysop rights. You can also setup a /Sandbox page with the proposed

Re: [Wikitech-l] {{TemplatesThatWorkOnMobile}}

2014-10-07 Thread Dan Garry
Jon, Regarding editing specific templates, I'll echo Brion here. If a template is causing difficulties for your work and you feel like you know enough to fix it, then fix it! That's the wiki way. If you don't have the rights to edit the template (e.g. because it's protected), then speak to Tomasz

Re: [Wikitech-l] {{TemplatesThatWorkOnMobile}}

2014-10-07 Thread Jon Robson
On 7 Oct 2014 18:03, Dan Garry dga...@wikimedia.org wrote: Jon, Regarding editing specific templates, I'll echo Brion here. If a template is causing difficulties for your work and you feel like you know enough to fix it, then fix it! That's the wiki way. If you don't have the rights to edit

Re: [Wikitech-l] {{TemplatesThatWorkOnMobile}}

2014-10-07 Thread Jon Robson
On 7 Oct 2014 18:15, Jon Robson jrob...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 7 Oct 2014 18:03, Dan Garry dga...@wikimedia.org wrote: Jon, Regarding editing specific templates, I'll echo Brion here. If a template is causing difficulties for your work and you feel like you know enough to fix it,

Re: [Wikitech-l] {{TemplatesThatWorkOnMobile}}

2014-10-07 Thread Brian Wolff
On Oct 7, 2014 10:03 PM, Dan Garry dga...@wikimedia.org wrote: Jon, Regarding editing specific templates, I'll echo Brion here. If a template is causing difficulties for your work and you feel like you know enough to fix it, then fix it! That's the wiki way. If you don't have the rights to

Re: [Wikitech-l] {{TemplatesThatWorkOnMobile}}

2014-10-07 Thread Brian Wolff
On Oct 7, 2014 10:03 PM, Dan Garry dga...@wikimedia.org wrote: Jon, Regarding editing specific templates, I'll echo Brion here. If a template is causing difficulties for your work and you feel like you know enough to fix it, then fix it! That's the wiki way. If you don't have the rights to

Re: [Wikitech-l] {{TemplatesThatWorkOnMobile}}

2014-10-07 Thread Dan Garry
As members of the Mobile Team, it's our job to make the mobile platform the best it can be. If we have to edit templates to do that because they're causing significant display issues that are disrupting the platform, so be it. For example, let's say pie charts are completely broken on mobile and