Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Gender preference

2011-02-12 Thread Ashar Voultoiz
On 11/02/11 00:24, Platonides wrote: snip And many don't even perform one edit. As I don't believe so many people create them just to change their preferences, it is a mistery for me why do they do so. My brother is always logged in but barely edit anything. The top reasons are: - he uses

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Gender preference

2011-02-11 Thread Lars Aronsson
On 02/11/2011 12:24 AM, Platonides wrote: And many don't even perform one edit. As I don't believe so many people create them just to change their preferences, it is a mistery for me why do they do so. Becoming an active wikipedian is a process in many steps, each involving a large amount of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Gender preference

2011-02-11 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I blogged about the practical ways we can support gender in our user interface. I believe that when we address women properly we will gain respect as well as more buy in. As I describe practical things that will enhance the experience of women, I am really eager to learn to what extend we

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Gender preference

2011-02-11 Thread Alex Brollo
There's a parallel talk into it chapter about gender gap. This gap is part of a larger gap involving software development in general; there are few programmer women. I presume, that this highlights a similarity between wiki and a software development environment; and really many from most

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Gender preference

2011-02-11 Thread Lars Aronsson
On 02/09/2011 11:18 PM, DaB. wrote: sure. I asked the toolserver-database: en.wikipedia: Male: 233312 Femaile: 46973 All user: 13959842 One thing that could be interesting is to trace the career of users: When they register, how frequent they edit, if the frequency varies over time, and if

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Gender preference

2011-02-11 Thread Sage Ross
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Lars Aronsson l...@aronsson.se wrote: One thing that could be interesting is to trace the career of users: When they register, how frequent they edit, if the frequency varies over time, and if these patterns differ between men and women and the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Gender preference

2011-02-11 Thread Birgitte SB
On 02/11/2011 12:24 AM, Platonides wrote: And many don't even perform one edit. As I don't believe so many people create them just to change their preferences, it is a mistery for me why do they do so. Creating an account also allows you to dismiss banners. My first step when I

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Gender preference

2011-02-11 Thread Birgitte SB
There's a parallel talk into it chapter about gender gap. This gap is part of a larger gap involving software development in general; there are few programmer women. I presume, that this highlights a similarity between wiki and a software development environment; and really many from

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Gender preference

2011-02-11 Thread cpolish
Lars Aronsson wrote: Platonides wrote: And many don't even perform one edit. As I don't believe so many people create them just to change their preferences, it is a mistery for me why do they do so. Becoming an active wikipedian is a process in many steps, each involving a large amount

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Gender preference

2011-02-10 Thread Roan Kattouw
2011/2/10 Andrew Garrett agarr...@wikimedia.org: That's not accurate. Aggregate preference data is available to toolserver users — the view omits the user ID field. The view of which table? Running SHOW TABLES; on enwiki_p, I don't see user_properties or anything else that looks like it might

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Gender preference

2011-02-10 Thread Soxred93
prefstats maybe? On Feb 10, 2011, at 8:17 AM, Roan Kattouw wrote: 2011/2/10 Andrew Garrett agarr...@wikimedia.org: That's not accurate. Aggregate preference data is available to toolserver users — the view omits the user ID field. The view of which table? Running SHOW TABLES; on enwiki_p,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Gender preference

2011-02-10 Thread Roan Kattouw
2011/2/10 Soxred93 soxre...@gmail.com: prefstats maybe? Yeah, that would contain some data, but only for the skin and usebetatoolbar preferences. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Gender preference

2011-02-10 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, For English asking the gender or our readers, editors is not useful. For Slavic languages it is. The localisers at translatewiki.net actively incorporate the difference in addressing in their work. If you want to optimise the results, we can advertise the fact why we ask people's gender.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Gender preference

2011-02-10 Thread Daniel ~ Leinad
For English asking the gender or our readers, editors is not useful. For Slavic languages it is. The localisers at translatewiki.net actively + {{support}} :-) Make a note that Slavic languages still need to resolve some important issues: * https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17160

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Gender preference

2011-02-10 Thread Platonides
Sage Ross wrote: On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 9:49 PM, Howie Fung hf...@wikimedia.org wrote: Just making sure I understand the data below. I'm assuming this means there are 13,959,842 total accounts in the English Wikipedia? Interesting because there are a total of 651,652 cumulative New

[Wikitech-l] Fwd: Gender preference

2011-02-09 Thread Ole Palnatoke Andersen
Perhaps this list is a better place for this question (got no answer on gendergap list): On http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences, you can specify a gender. Do we collect these data? -Ole -- http://palnatoke.org * @palnatoke * +4522934588

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Gender preference

2011-02-09 Thread Brion Vibber
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Ole Palnatoke Andersen palnat...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps this list is a better place for this question (got no answer on gendergap list): On http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences, you can specify a gender. Do we collect these data? Preferences

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Gender preference

2011-02-09 Thread Brandon Harris
Awesome! Thanks! On 2/9/11 2:18 PM, DaB. wrote: Hello, Am Mittwoch 09 Februar 2011, 22:38:20 schrieb Brandon Harris: Is it possible to get a single aggregate report, just so that we have a little data to work with on the gender gap list? sure. I asked the toolserver-database:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Gender preference

2011-02-09 Thread M. Williamson
Would it be possible to get this information for es.wp and sv.wp? Thanks 2011/2/9 DaB. w...@daniel.baur4.info: Hello, Am Mittwoch 09 Februar 2011, 23:36:12 schrieb Gerard Meijssen: Hoi, I would be interested in learning sr and ru. sr.wikipedia: Male:  1666 Femaile: 414 All user: 78180

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Gender preference

2011-02-09 Thread Andrew Garrett
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 10:36 PM, Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/2/9 Ole Palnatoke Andersen palnat...@gmail.com: Are the numbers available on a per-wiki basis, so we can point to them and say so-and-so many percent of our users self-identify as male, female, and

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Gender preference

2011-02-09 Thread Howie Fung
Just making sure I understand the data below. I'm assuming this means there are 13,959,842 total accounts in the English Wikipedia? Interesting because there are a total of 651,652 cumulative New Wikipedians (users with =10 lifetime edits) as of Dec 2010. Which would mean that only 4.7% of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Gender preference

2011-02-09 Thread Sage Ross
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 9:49 PM, Howie Fung hf...@wikimedia.org wrote:  Just making sure I understand the data below.  I'm assuming this means there are 13,959,842 total accounts in the English Wikipedia? Interesting because there are a total of 651,652 cumulative New Wikipedians (users with