Wine/USB, was: Re: Glitch-free iTunes?

2011-07-16 Thread Uwe Bonnes
Damjan == Damjan Jovanovic damjan@gmail.com writes: Damjan So it's slow going and there's a lot to do, and few Wine Damjan developers seem to care. One can only hope that when some Damjan devices start working, it will generate new interest in Wine Damjan (and Linux), and

Re: Wine/USB, was: Re: Glitch-free iTunes?

2011-07-16 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Uwe Bonnes b...@elektron.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de wrote: Damjan == Damjan Jovanovic damjan@gmail.com writes:    Damjan So it's slow going and there's a lot to do, and few Wine    Damjan developers seem to care. One can only hope that when some    Damjan

Re: Glitch-free iTunes?

2011-07-05 Thread Stefan Dösinger
On Tuesday 05 July 2011 06:13:32 Damjan Jovanovic wrote: fix requires device drivers, changes to multiple systems, knowledge of Windows and Wine internals - W is large Do we need full-fledged support for USB drivers for iTunes? I've been told in the past that all we need to do is properly

Re: Glitch-free iTunes?

2011-07-05 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Stefan Dösinger stefandoesin...@gmx.at wrote: On Tuesday 05 July 2011 06:13:32 Damjan Jovanovic wrote: fix requires device drivers, changes to multiple systems, knowledge of Windows and Wine internals - W is large Do we need full-fledged support for USB drivers

Re: Glitch-free iTunes?

2011-07-05 Thread Charles Davis
On 7/5/11 2:23 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Stefan Dösinger stefandoesin...@gmx.at wrote: Do we need full-fledged support for USB drivers for iTunes? I've been told in the past that all we need to do is properly report the new USB drive to iTunes when an

Re: Glitch-free iTunes?

2011-07-05 Thread Saulius Krasuckas
Perhaps such response is due to my language barrier, but... * On Mon, 4 Jul 2011, Keith Curtis wrote: I bring up Linus because he can focus efforts. You don't need Linus. You just need the same result -- focused efforts. There is another name for this concept -- teams. Maybe WINE needs

Re: Glitch-free iTunes?

2011-07-05 Thread Maarten Lankhorst
Hey, On 07/05/2011 10:49 AM, Charles Davis wrote: On 7/5/11 2:23 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Stefan Dösinger stefandoesin...@gmx.at wrote: Do we need full-fledged support for USB drivers for iTunes? I've been told in the past that all we need to do is

Re: Glitch-free iTunes?

2011-07-04 Thread Frédéric Delanoy
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 04:44, Keith Curtis keit...@gmail.com wrote: ... In general, people can work where they want, but it is better if some work is prioritized. Well indeed volunteers work where they want, but also on the parts they're good at (not everybody is interested, and if they're

Re: Glitch-free iTunes?

2011-07-04 Thread Juan Lang
Hi Keith, WINE in general does many things, and you've got a big team now. Your contributor list shows 1250 and you've got 2M lines of code. Few of these contributors remain active. Most had small contributions. The total number of contributors obviously can only increase over time, but the

Re: Glitch-free iTunes?

2011-07-04 Thread max
On 07/02/2011 03:46 PM, Keith Curtis wrote: Hi; Here is a rant about iTunes: http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/229398-2/day_3_dude_wheres_my_itunes.html You guys are doing great, but I think it would be better if you were to work more in priority order. There are 200M devices, last

Re: Glitch-free iTunes?

2011-07-04 Thread Henri Verbeet
On 4 July 2011 15:32, Juan Lang juan.l...@gmail.com wrote: But really, what are we talking about?  Talk is cheap.  Code isn't. Your contributions are welcome. In principle yes, but having worked for Microsoft complicates that a bit.

Re: Glitch-free iTunes?

2011-07-04 Thread André Hentschel
Am 04.07.2011 20:08, schrieb max: 1. Does it run on Windows? iTunes is an Apple product and it could be that it has been intentionally implemented so that it does not run on Microsoft's OS. Why then providing a Windowsversion??? :) -- Best Regards, André Hentschel

Re: Glitch-free iTunes?

2011-07-04 Thread max
On 07/04/2011 02:15 PM, André Hentschel wrote: Am 04.07.2011 20:08, schrieb max: 1. Does it run on Windows? iTunes is an Apple product and it could be that it has been intentionally implemented so that it does not run on Microsoft's OS. Why then providing a Windowsversion??? :) So you

Re: Glitch-free iTunes?

2011-07-04 Thread Keith Curtis
None of the Linux kernel developers are paid by Linus nor can be fired by him. Linus never forces people to respond to his mails or to work on anything. What has happened is that the team has realized that having goals and leadership has led to good results, and Linus is a good leader, and so they

Re: Glitch-free iTunes?

2011-07-04 Thread James McKenzie
On 7/4/11 7:50 PM, Keith Curtis wrote: None of the Linux kernel developers are paid by Linus nor can be fired by him. Linus never forces people to respond to his mails or to work on anything. What has happened is that the team has realized that having goals and leadership has led to good

Re: Glitch-free iTunes?

2011-07-04 Thread Keith Curtis
I bring up Linus because he can focus efforts. You don't need Linus. You just need the same result -- focused efforts. There is another name for this concept -- teams. Maybe WINE needs sub-teams? I assure you that the problem isn't for lack of resources. I know you feel busy and perhaps that I'm

Re: Glitch-free iTunes?

2011-07-04 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 4:50 AM, Keith Curtis keit...@gmail.com wrote: None of the Linux kernel developers are paid by Linus nor can be fired by him. Linus never forces people to respond to his mails or to work on anything. What has happened is that the team has realized that having goals and

Re: Glitch-free iTunes?

2011-07-03 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 4:49 AM, Keith Curtis keit...@gmail.com wrote: So: yeah, we know it's an important app.  But it's hard. Feel free to help out. - Dan Hi; I am glad to hear you say that iTunes is an important app, but I don't understand what you mean because it has never worked.

Re: Glitch-free iTunes?

2011-07-03 Thread Keith Curtis
On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 1:37 AM, Damjan Jovanovic damjan@gmail.comwrote: Hi Keith Having worked at Microsoft, you of all people should appreciate the size and complexity of the driver architecture on Windows. So I would say that failure is mostly from the scale of the problem to be

Glitch-free iTunes?

2011-07-02 Thread Keith Curtis
Hi; Here is a rant about iTunes: http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/229398-2/day_3_dude_wheres_my_itunes.html You guys are doing great, but I think it would be better if you were to work more in priority order. There are 200M devices, last I checked. I don't think iTunes has ever

re: Glitch-free iTunes?

2011-07-02 Thread Dan Kegel
Keith wrote: http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/229398-2/day_3_dude_wheres_my_itunes.html Can you make a goal of supporting iTunes with no glitches? ... Just this one app could be huge for Linux on the desktop. The main problem is driver support, I think (mainly usb, but probably

Re: Glitch-free iTunes?

2011-07-02 Thread Keith Curtis
So: yeah, we know it's an important app. But it's hard. Feel free to help out. - Dan Hi; I am glad to hear you say that iTunes is an important app, but I don't understand what you mean because it has never worked. You don't need my help. You've got a big group making many good fixes. It is

Re: Glitch-free iTunes?

2011-07-02 Thread James McKenzie
On 7/2/11 7:49 PM, Keith Curtis wrote: So: yeah, we know it's an important app. But it's hard. Feel free to help out. - Dan Hi; I am glad to hear you say that iTunes is an important app, but I don't understand what you mean because it has never worked. You don't need my help.