Hi,

Thank you very much for the reply. I used a 'zipper' node and got to a
situation which I expected to get.
I will try with

On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 10:05 PM, Jakob Erdmann <namdre.s...@googlemail.com>
wrote:

> Hello,
> sumo has two distinct interpretations of what it means when the number of
> lanes changes from on edge to the next
> 1) an on-ramp type of situation where the ending lane is subordinate to
> the continuing lane and is only used to accelerate (the default). In this
> case vehicles try to leave the ending lane as soon as possible. The
> distance to the lane end where vehicles attempt to leave the merging lane
> can be configured with the lane-change model parameter lcStrategic. (see
> http://sumo.dlr.de/wiki/Definition_of_Vehicles,_Vehicle_Types,_and_Routes#
> Lane-Changing_Models). Note, that the models treat the case where the
> rightmost lane ends slightly different from the case where the leftmost
> lane ends but by default vehicles try to avoid staying on the ending lane.
>
> 2) a zipper type situation where both lanes are to be used until the
> merging point and vehicles interleave. This case is configured by setting
> the node where both edges meet to type 'zipper'
>
> regards,
> Jakob
>
> 2018-02-02 5:23 GMT+01:00 Alan Dee <adandee.s...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Hello Michael ,
>>
>> In this scenario, vehicles change the lane in a strange way. Vehicles on
>> the lane 0 (which is going be be merged) change the lane halfway through
>> the lane and the vehicles do not run until they reach the merging point on
>> that road. In other words, second 50% (around) of space on that lane is
>> unoccupied since the vehicles change the lane at the end of the first 50%
>> (around) of the lane.
>>
>> I changed the lane changing model to the older one DK2008. Then this
>> problem was reduced to a fair level (at least vehicles on that lane waited
>> until they pass around 75%). But it creates unnecessary congestion at the
>> end of the other lane. Time to time 5,6 vehicles unusually wait there even
>> though there is enough space ahead of them.
>>
>> I am confused that whether it is a problem with SUMO lane changing
>> models. I appreciate any suggestions.
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 2:44 PM, Alan Dee <adandee.s...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks a lot Michael. I will check on it.
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 8:24 PM, Michael Behrisch <o...@behrisch.de>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Dee,
>>>> I'm afraid you cannot ghave that automatically, you will need to move
>>>> and connect the lane manually in netedit. If moving the single lane to the
>>>> center already helps, you can set the spreadtype attribute instead of
>>>> moving maually but you will still need to set the connection.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 2018-01-22 23:22, schrieb Alan Dee:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Michael,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you very much for the reply. Now I understand the reason why the
>>>>> vehicles disappear.
>>>>> I did as you mentioned, and it works fine. But I have another question
>>>>> now.
>>>>>
>>>>> What I did was add basically adding two edges. First edge contains two
>>>>> lanes ( index 0, 1). Then at the node with which that edge ends the
>>>>> next
>>>>> edge with a single lane (index 0) begins ( Please correct me if this
>>>>> is not
>>>>> what you advised).
>>>>>
>>>>> Once the network is built, the default behavior is, physically lane 1
>>>>> of
>>>>> the first edge is straightly linked with lane 0, and lane 0 of the
>>>>> first
>>>>> edge is merged and ended at the node. Can I change this behavior to
>>>>> have
>>>>> this in other way around (i.e. lane 0 of the first edge is straightly
>>>>> linked with lane 0, and lane 1 of the first edge is merged and ended
>>>>> at the
>>>>> node) ?
>>>>>
>>>>> I know that vehicle flow can be changed by altering the connections. I
>>>>> am
>>>>> asking to change both geometry and vehicle flow together.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Dee.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 7:05 AM, Michael Behrisch <o...@behrisch.de>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Dee,
>>>>>> you need to define a new edge when the number of lanes changes (or let
>>>>>> SUMO's netconvert do this, this is essentially what the split does).
>>>>>> Currently it is not possible for the lanes of the same edge to have
>>>>>> different lengths. The reason why the vehicles disappeared is that the
>>>>>> edge after the split has a new name and probably did not occur in your
>>>>>> route.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 22.01.2018 um 06:29 schrieb Alan Dee:
>>>>>> > Hello,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I have a simple networks in which I need to do a merging lanes.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > There is a single edge, let say its length is 1000m.
>>>>>> > At 500m from the beginning, one  lane should be merged with the
>>>>>> other.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I have tried the both following ways.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >  1. I tried setting a length of one lane to 500m, and the lane ends
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> >     a clear cut at the defined point. Can this be considered as a
>>>>>> merge?
>>>>>> >  2. I tried the refining roads in sumo documentation
>>>>>> >     <http://sumo.dlr.de/wiki/Networks/Building_Networks_
>>>>>> from_own_XML-descriptions#Road_Segment_Refining>,
>>>>>> >     but after the split point, the vehicles disappear from both
>>>>>> lanes. I
>>>>>> >     am confused about what is happening.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I am quite new to sumo and perhaps this might not be the correct
>>>>>> way to
>>>>>> > do this. I did find a solution though I went through the
>>>>>> documentation.
>>>>>> > I would appreciate if some can provide me an insight on this.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Regards,
>>>>>> > Dee.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
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