This too. I think some better documentation for all of us could pay great dividends. Or a primer of some sort. A weekly series diving into the common parts of LLVM?
Brandon > On Jul 29, 2016, at 12:30 PM, Karl <razie...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> On 29 Jul 2016, at 18:01, Brandon Knope via swift-evolution >> <swift-evolution@swift.org <mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org>> wrote: >> >> I think this just shows how familiar many of us are with this process. >> >> It’s fun and challenging coming up with the great ideas…but someone has to >> implement it. It may not be fun…and it may be very time consuming. >> >> I think a lot of us just expected the core team to implement these all…but >> they really need help from the community to save them time and sanity with >> trying to get all of this done. >> >> >> To me this means I need to familiarize myself with the swift code base even >> more. I need to understand all the GitHub processes to get a change >> implemented and submitted. >> >> I really hope at some point someone can make a primer of the process they >> went through to implement one of these proposals from start to finish. I >> think this could be illuminating for many on this list. >> >> ALSO: I think this is where a forum can help greatly: some of us need a way >> to discuss our implementations and ask for help while we are working on one >> of these proposals. Mailing lists make it very hard to have a general >> discussion where we talk code and ask for help in get detail. It is also >> much easier for others to browse to learn from that conversation. >> >> In short: the swift-evolution process works…but some of us in the community >> need to step up and help a little more other than just proposing things. I >> think the swift team could make this easier with some detailed guides and >> documentation and a forum for better discussions when trying to implement >> these things…but I know they are insanely busy. I do think some time >> investment in this area will pay off in the future…and quickly. >> >> Brandon >> >>> On Jul 29, 2016, at 11:15 AM, Félix Cloutier via swift-evolution >>> <swift-evolution@swift.org <mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org>> wrote: >>> >>> Hello all, >>> >>> With the Swift 3 deadline passed, according to the Swift Evolution progress >>> page, about 20% of the proposals that the community voted in won't make it >>> for Swift 3. Beyond the implications for the language itself, what does >>> that mean for the swift-evolution process? >>> >>> Félix >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> swift-evolution mailing list >>> swift-evolution@swift.org <mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org> >>> https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution >>> <https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> swift-evolution mailing list >> swift-evolution@swift.org <mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org> >> https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution > > The thing that’s stopping me contributing to the compiler itself is that it > uses LLVM types and functions, and I don’t know them. The Swift compiler > itself looks very clean and approachable. > > And then, when you try to look up any of those LLVM functions, you get > Doxygen, which isn’t really great. It just puts me off really getting to > grips with LLVM’s conventions. Maybe one day when I have more time. > > Unless somebody knows of some better documentation? > > Karl
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