I don't think there's too much of a distinction between those, honestly. 
Telepathy is *mostly* there, it just doesn't
have an interface for retrieving server-side logs.

On 9/22/15 1:48 PM, Olivier Crête wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Empathy is the client for GNOME, so it's really focused on the GNOME
> desktop. The fact that the Ubuntu people use it is mostly historical.
> If you want to write a new IM client, you should just start from
> scratch based on either Telepathy or even better, just on libpurple
> directly.
>
> That said, old fashioned IM has mostly disappeared for regular people
> and the replacement protocols, Facebook, Skype, Hangouts, etc, are not
> suitable for the kind of APIs that were developed a decade ago like
> libpurple or Telepathy. Old protocols were based on carrying messages,
> while newer ones are mostly a view on a "mailbox" which is stored on
> the server so you can keep your conversation across devices and the
> web. Also, the large majority of real users are now using closed garden
> systems, making open clients much more painful to develop as everything
> needs to be reverse-engineered.
>
> Olivier
>
> On Tue, 2015-09-22 at 19:39 +0200, Peter Bittner wrote:
>> Is it possible to use most of Empathy's logic, and plugin-in a
>> QML-powered user interface on it?
>>
>> A bit like the Fahrplan developers did it at
>> https://github.com/smurfy/fahrplan/tree/master/src/gui? (I understand
>> that the difference technology-wise may be larger than in that
>> project.)
>>
>> If convergence is going to happen on the Ubuntu platform a
>> "responsive" Empathy implementation will be needed anyway. Could be
>> good to kick this off now. A clean separation would also allow to
>> implement a 100% web-based HTML5 Empathy client. Wouldn't that be
>> nice, too?
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
>> 2015-09-22 19:30 GMT+02:00 Olivier Crête <olivier.cr...@collabora.com
>>> :
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Empathy works fine on ARM, but it is a desktop application, so you
>>> need
>>> to be running a regular desktop environment. The Ubuntu Touch
>>> platform
>>> is a completely different platform requiring custom applications
>>> for
>>> everything.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 2015-09-22 at 00:39 +0200, Peter Bittner wrote:
>>>> Are there any plans to port Empathy the ARM architecture, so that
>>>> it
>>>> would be installable on Ubuntu Touch mobile phones?
>>>>
>>>> Peter

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