Hi there Max, Apologies for the silence on my side. I use moodle and have been doing so (on a different AWS server to that of the OM instance (5.1.0)). I haven’t integrated both of them to work with each other (yet), as my Moodle instance is still using PHP 5.6 and no SSL. More recent versions of Moodle require PHP 7 + and SSL cert to work. The reason I have been slow to upgrade my version of Moodle is because some of my MySQL code needs to be changed to MySQLi as many functions are deprecated and I also have my school database (on the same Moodle server) using old PHP pages which will require a rewrite. This is something I will work on over the weekend. Once I have both servers talking to each other, I will install the OM Moodle plugin as it is the last piece of the puzzle I need to work on. All the best.
Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 17, 2021, at 7:36 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> wrote: > > It seems I understand less and less with each email in this thread :( > Are there any other Moodle plugin users who follow this thread? > >> On Thu, 11 Feb 2021 at 21:08, Ali Alhaidary <ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> >> wrote: >> In moodle, to use an application (called plugin) there are three steps: >> >> 1. install the plugin. >> >> 2. create an activity of that plugin in the class page. >> >> 3. use this created activity. >> >> In OM case, >> >> 1. we install the plugin, and currently, a new group called module is >> created, what I am suggesting is not to create this group at this stage. >> >> 2. create an activity of any type other than 'Show Recording' with 'suffix' >> added, only then a new group is created in OM database called module+suffix. >> >> 3. when the teacher uses this activity he will see an empty module+suffix >> group in his tree list (that used to see module group only) >> >> 4. He records the lesson, which will be saved in 'my recordings', and after >> the recording is ready, he will rename it and move it to 'module+suffix' >> group. >> >> We usually do not want students to enter the room just to attend the >> recorded lesson, so the teacher will create an activity of any type 'Show >> Recording' with 'suffix' selected (not added, because if he did not create >> the activity as per step 2, this list will be empty and the activity can not >> be created), and the list of recordings will be displayed to be selected. >> >> >>> On 2/11/21 4:50 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote: >>> >>> >>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2021 at 20:44, Ali Alhaidary <ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2/11/21 4:19 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, 10 Feb 2021 at 21:29, Ali Alhaidary >>>>>> <ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> wrote: >>>>>> 1. Teacher fills the form of new OM activity with suffix field, and save >>>>>> it (see attached in red), at this time, new group is created in OM >>>>>> database with the name 'module+suffix' >>>>>> >>>>> true >>>>>> 2. A new OM activity is created on his course page. >>>>>> >>>>> true >>>>>> 3. Teacher clicks on this activity, enters OM room, do the recording and >>>>>> exit. >>>>>> >>>>> true >>>>>> 4. Teacher creates new OM activity with 'Show recording' with the same >>>>>> suffix field, and only then he can select recordings >>>>>> >>>>> NOT true >>>>> >>>>> As I wrote 2 times before >>>>> this activity need to be saved "with suffix" >>>>> then opened >>>>> and only the second time recording list will contain correct recording >>>>> .... >>>>> this is the problem >>>> The activity is saved with 'suffix' as per step 1, and executed (opened) >>>> as per step 3, where is the problem ? >>> >>> I always thought activity of type room is created >>> then NEW activity of type recording is created >>> I wonder which of two use-case is more common? ... >>>>> >>>>>> I do know when recording list is generated, however, I do know that >>>>>> recording will be visible after recording :-) >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2/10/21 4:56 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, 10 Feb 2021 at 20:30, Ali Alhaidary >>>>>>>> <ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 2/10/21 4:19 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote: >>>>>>>>> I'll clean-up some context >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 10 Feb 2021 at 20:01, Ali Alhaidary >>>>>>>>>> <ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> In fact - no :( >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> recordings created at "moodle-ENG101" will not be visible while key >>>>>>>>>>> is "moodle" and the `suffix` is empty >>>>>>>>>>> to see them >>>>>>>>>>> teacher will need to create activity (with suffix) >>>>>>>>>>> save it >>>>>>>>>>> then edit >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> this looks to me as bad UX :( >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you can suggest how it can be improved? >>>>>>>>>> Yes, you are absolutely right, the teacher needs to create an >>>>>>>>>> activity with 'suffix' mandatory field, and then he use this >>>>>>>>>> activity, enter the room and do recording, only after that, the >>>>>>>>>> recording is visible. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> here is the problem >>>>>>>>> what exactly do you mean by "after that, the recording is visible." ? >>>>>>>> After the teacher does the recording, it should (would) be visible in >>>>>>>> a new activity created with the same suffix for recordings only. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> OK, let's start from the beginning :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The recordings list is created on >>>>>>> server at the very beginning >>>>>>> this means >>>>>>> 1) teacher clicks "Add activity" >>>>>>> - recording list is created based on "Module key" only (there is no >>>>>>> suffix for new activity) >>>>>>> - at this point teacher can't select "suffixed" recordings from the >>>>>>> list >>>>>>> 3) he/she adds suffix, and saves the activity >>>>>>> 4) click edit >>>>>>> - recording list is created based on "Module key" and "suffix" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> this is what I call bad UX :( >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>> Maxim >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>> Maxim >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> Maxim >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Maxim > > > -- > Best regards, > Maxim
