Hey Sean, That is true for explicit model, but not for implicit. The ALS-WR paper doesn't cover the implicit model. In implicit formulation, a sub-problem (for v_j) is:
min_{v_j} \sum_i c_ij (p_ij - u_i^T v_j)^2 + lambda * X * \|v_j\|_2^2 This is a sum for all i but not just the users who rate item j. In this case, if we set X=m_j, the number of observed ratings for item j, it is not really scale invariant. We have #users user vectors in the least squares problem but only penalize lambda * #ratings. I was suggesting using lambda * m directly for implicit model to match the number of vectors in the least squares problem. Well, this is my theory. I don't find any public work about it. Best, Xiangrui On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 5:17 AM, Sean Owen <so...@cloudera.com> wrote: > I had always understood the formulation to be the first option you > describe. Lambda is scaled by the number of items the user has rated / > interacted with. I think the goal is to avoid fitting the tastes of > prolific users disproportionately just because they have many ratings > to fit. This is what's described in the ALS-WR paper we link to on the > Spark web site, in equation 5 > (http://www.grappa.univ-lille3.fr/~mary/cours/stats/centrale/reco/paper/MatrixFactorizationALS.pdf) > > I think this also gets you the scale-invariance? For every additional > rating from user i to product j, you add one new term to the > squared-error sum, (r_ij - u_i . m_j)^2, but also, you'd increase the > regularization term by lambda * (|u_i|^2 + |m_j|^2) They are at least > both increasing about linearly as ratings increase. If the > regularization term is multiplied by the total number of users and > products in the model, then it's fixed. > > I might misunderstand you and/or be speaking about something slightly > different when it comes to invariance. But FWIW I had always > understood the regularization to be multiplied by the number of > explicit ratings. > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Xiangrui Meng <men...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Okay, I didn't realize that I changed the behavior of lambda in 1.3. >> to make it "scale-invariant", but it is worth discussing whether this >> is a good change. In 1.2, we multiply lambda by the number ratings in >> each sub-problem. This makes it "scale-invariant" for explicit >> feedback. However, in implicit feedback model, a user's sub-problem >> contains all item factors. Then the question is whether we should >> multiply lambda by the number of explicit ratings from this user or by >> the total number of items. We used the former in 1.2 but changed to >> the latter in 1.3. So you should try a smaller lambda to get a similar >> result in 1.3. >> >> Sean and Shuo, which approach do you prefer? Do you know any existing >> work discussing this? >> >> Best, >> Xiangrui >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Xiangrui Meng <men...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> This sounds like a bug ... Did you try a different lambda? It would be >>> great if you can share your dataset or re-produce this issue on the >>> public dataset. Thanks! -Xiangrui >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 7:56 AM, Ravi Mody <rmody...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> After upgrading to 1.3.0, ALS.trainImplicit() has been returning vastly >>>> smaller factors (and hence scores). For example, the first few product's >>>> factor values in 1.2.0 are (0.04821, -0.00674, -0.0325). In 1.3.0, the >>>> first few factor values are (2.535456E-8, 1.690301E-8, 6.99245E-8). This >>>> difference of several orders of magnitude is consistent throughout both >>>> user >>>> and product. The recommendations from 1.2.0 are subjectively much better >>>> than in 1.3.0. 1.3.0 trains significantly faster than 1.2.0, and uses less >>>> memory. >>>> >>>> My first thought is that there is too much regularization in the 1.3.0 >>>> results, but I'm using the same lambda parameter value. This is a snippet >>>> of >>>> my scala code: >>>> ..... >>>> val rank = 75 >>>> val numIterations = 15 >>>> val alpha = 10 >>>> val lambda = 0.01 >>>> val model = ALS.trainImplicit(train_data, rank, numIterations, >>>> lambda=lambda, alpha=alpha) >>>> ..... >>>> >>>> The code and input data are identical across both versions. Did anything >>>> change between the two versions I'm not aware of? I'd appreciate any help! >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: user-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: user-h...@spark.apache.org